 BF69Premium
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Camden, TN | Who would want to use p2p over 3g anyways? They have a 5 GB monthly cap. Doesn't at&t charge overage fees? Verizon's is $256 per GB so I'm sure they don't have a p2p problem. |
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 funchordsHelloPremium,MVM
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1 edit | said by BF69:to use p2p over 3g anyways? They have a 5 GB monthly cap. Doesn't at&t charge overage fees? Verizon's is $256 per GB so I'm sure they don't have a p2p problem. BF69,
Your point is exactly why AT&T shouldn't ban P2P, at least as it appears on the surface. A 5 GB cap is a clearly disclosed limit on the amount of bandwidth being purchased. Cut and dry. So why ban P2P?
Is it something technical? I'd like to see actual data before I make a judgement ... is there something about today's P2P protocols that make 3g incompatible with them, and if so, what is that? (Wireless efficiency is considerably less than wired -- usually 1/3 or 2/3 as efficient, owing to interference, multi-path, hidden node, perhaps other reasons too. But that doesn't automatically make P2P a non-starter. We need data.)
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 NightfallMy Goal Is To Deny YoursPremium,MVM
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| said by funchords:said by BF69:to use p2p over 3g anyways? They have a 5 GB monthly cap. Doesn't at&t charge overage fees? Verizon's is $256 per GB so I'm sure they don't have a p2p problem. BF69, Your point is exactly why AT&T shouldn't ban P2P, at least as it appears on the surface. A 5 GB cap is a clearly disclosed limit on the amount of bandwidth being purchased. Cut and dry. So why ban P2P? Is it something technical? I'd like to see actual data before I make a judgement ... is there something about today's P2P protocols that make 3g incompatible with them, and if so, what is that? (Wireless efficiency is considerably less than wired -- usually 1/3 or 2/3 as efficient, owing to interference, multi-path, hidden node, perhaps other reasons too. But that doesn't automatically make P2P a non-starter. We need data.) They are probably banning it to prevent stupid people from doing stupid things. Imagine your laptop has a P2P client on it. A lot of users don't know how to shut those off. Now you hook up via 3g and 5gb won't take long to hit.
I can see a lot of people getting hit with bills that are thousands of dollars. Its happened before with data limits and it will happen again.
I am in the same boat as you though. I say turn it on, disclose it, and nail people for it if they go over. Let the responsible people take care of it themselves.
The only unfortunate part is that not everyone is responsible. |
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funchordsHelloPremium,MVM
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kudos:5 | said by Nightfall:They are probably banning it to prevent stupid people from doing stupid things. Imagine your laptop has a P2P client on it. A lot of users don't know how to shut those off. Now you hook up via 3g and 5gb won't take long to hit. Probably, but that's just lazy. It's surgery with a sledgehammer.
When Verizon Wireless was caught preventing NARAL from getting a short code, they realized and admitted that what they were doing was a mistake. That took a hot story and extinguished it, pronto (perhaps cooled it too much for some). But I liked that tactic -- "we goofed, we're going to reverse our position."
Hopefully they'll do something like that.
said by Nightfall:The only unfortunate part is that not everyone is responsible. We can't live in a PlaySkool world.
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said by Nightfall:The only unfortunate part is that not everyone is responsible. Unfortunatley, my mother the retiring cop would whole-heartedly agree with you. She's thinking of retiring at christmas at more than 30 years. She tells us kids "I have seen enough!"
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said by funchords:said by Nightfall:They are probably banning it to prevent stupid people from doing stupid things. Imagine your laptop has a P2P client on it. A lot of users don't know how to shut those off. Now you hook up via 3g and 5gb won't take long to hit. Probably, but that's just lazy. It's surgery with a sledgehammer. When Verizon Wireless was caught preventing NARAL from getting a short code, they realized and admitted that what they were doing was a mistake. That took a hot story and extinguished it, pronto (perhaps cooled it too much for some). But I liked that tactic -- "we goofed, we're going to reverse our position." Hopefully they'll do something like that. said by Nightfall:The only unfortunate part is that not everyone is responsible. We can't live in a PlaySkool world. We are already there dude. We live in that playskool world right now. Look at all the stupid things we have to live with because of morons.
For instance....
I just saw a Quiznos commercial on their $5 subs. Someone is eating a roll of dimes and it says "Do Not Attempt" in the lower right hand side of the screen. How stupid would you have to be to try that? |
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