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bsoft

join:2004-03-28
Boulder, CO

Uh

People who think that P2P is just used by "pirates" are idiots.

Apparently, it's now against AT&T's terms of service to download WoW patches over 3G (the WoW patcher uses BitTorrent).

It's also against AT&T's TOS to download Linux ISOs using BitTorrent (which is often the ONLY way to download new versions, because all of the FTP/HTTP mirrors are overloaded).

Using P2P does not make you a "pirate". Downloading copyrighted content without the content owner's permission does.

Copyright infringement occurs on USENET. It occurs through FTP and HTTP sites, like RapidShare. And it even happens on YouTube and similar sites, all the time.

Maybe AT&T should block all of those, too.


espaeth
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said by bsoft:

Using P2P does not make you a "pirate".
You're absolutely right, it doesn't.

The issue with P2P is that in the course of grabbing your content you will have moved more bits (when you factor in the upstream) than if you had just downloaded it via other methods, which makes P2P an unwise choice on bandwidth constrained networks.

ja2007123

join:2007-10-06

reply to bsoft
those excuses are made by pirates themselves. Not saying that you are one.

BTW who on the world would p2p on a 3g connection.


k1ll3rdr4g0n

join:2005-03-19
Homer Glen, IL

reply to bsoft
Shhh....don't give them ideas!



knightmb
Everybody Lies

join:2003-12-01
Franklin, TN

reply to ja2007123

said by ja2007123:

those excuses are made by pirates themselves. Not saying that you are one.

BTW who on the world would p2p on a 3g connection.
»dictionary.reference.com/browse/pirate

I still don't see "P2P Users" as an example of the definition of pirate. Until they finally add it, everyone that likes to chime in about how anything P2P makes you a pirate will forever still be labeled an idiot.
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BF69
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join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN

reply to bsoft

said by bsoft:

People who think that P2P is just used by "pirates" are idiots.
yes yes we know. All anyone is doing is downloading endless Linux distros and uploading HD home movies of the family re-union.


a333
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join:2007-06-12
Rego Park, NY
Reviews:
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reply to espaeth
Actually, airtime-wise, p2p is better, as it actually fills up your available bandwidth (provided you have enough seeders connected), unlike peak-hour centralized servers, which can slow down to a crawl a lot of the time. My point is, while p2p actually fills up your available capacity, it's WAY faster in terms of download times, thus reducing airtime usage. As far as I'm concerned, on 3G and most other cell networks, the airtime itself is the most expensive aspect, due to limited spectrum in most markets. (ATT per se has only 20 Mhz/market), and the 5 Mhz that HSDPA requires in either direction. Once the data gets to the bonded T1's themselves, I doubt the data transferred matters to AT&T, as they're paying the same amt. per month, regardless of how much their users use.

Cheers,
a333


cgigate

join:2003-05-12
Fort Worth, TX

reply to ja2007123

said by ja2007123:

those excuses are made by pirates themselves. Not saying that you are one.

BTW who on the world would p2p on a 3g connection.
I am on 3G for P2P

tiger9

join:2005-08-01
Ont,Canada

reply to BF69
Think about it - knives can kill people. They have a illegal purpose. Are knives illegal?



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Greensboro, NC
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reply to bsoft
I would also say the same thing about guns. Guns have illegal purposes, so I guess guns should be banned as well. Shoot, everything can be used as a weapon, so that automatically makes the person using it (whether you have knowledge of it or not) a murderer.
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