http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-It-could-be-something-else-20865083 en Fri, 10 Feb 2012 02:49:11 EDT Fri, 10 Feb 2012 02:49:11 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-It-could-be-something-else-20867599
Comcast ads suck but they are nailing the Bells on price. Cox ads are more informational and nail the price point on phone service. Cable already has most of the TV service so they are aggressive on the phone side. And, if they take the phone, they know they are getting the HSI side too (a free month is a nice idea or 3 months at half price, etc.).

VZ's ads are too complicated. "It's FIOS capable of this and that..." Well, most don't use all that speed, stupid. VZ ads are more about selling a luxury; the Cable Cos are just selling add-ons, and a lot cheaper phone service, than the Bells, which is a simple way of winning them over. Once a person experiences digital phone, like I did, there really is no going back to a Bell's crappy phone service (analog). And, those phone tools are something the Bells, except maybe VZ, can't even begin to offer. Ask AT&T how bad Cox has cannibalized their landline service here.

VZ needs to get its act together or us shareholders might just decide the idiots in-charge need some marketing help, and IBM to come in and fix their crappy billing system that is going to make people leave. In other words, CEO Ivan Siedenberg hasn't executed well. If he doesn't execute NY well, he might just be on the way out.

As far as Vonage, I give them another year till they are in bankruptcy court trying to hold onto whatever 3 customers are left. The Big Boys watched, studied, and are pouning on them. Price is nice but if you have to spend hours making it work, rather than the 30 mins. Cox spent setting up everything at my house, most non-tech people will go with the provider that makes it simple not complex.
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And for them to have matched fios's numbers is even more noteworthy.

While I'll never believe that long term nor technologically it was the right move to go with fiber to the Vrad...then twisted pair to the house..I might have to concede that financially, it does make some sense if that trend now keeps up. One thing they are able to do a lot more quickly than Verizon is to pass homes with the service. And those sheer numbers alone now seem to be producing these results. When you consider the continued bleed of landlines in their minds it was apparently critical to get something out there as a replacement..at the lowest cost possible.

The BIG if here is IF it keeps up. At some point the number of homes passed will stop growing and it really will come down to who wants the service and who doesn't.

Only having 500 some odd thousand customers as they do now wouldn't be giving me too warm and fuzzy a feeling.
But..170k customers in a quarter is nothing to sneeze at and honestly, I would have expected half that myself.

So..some concession is in order on my part and now I'll say it's wait and see.
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176,000. I always wait for Directv, Dish Network, Comcast, Time Warner,
Cablevision, and Charter to release sub additions or losses to get a clear
picture of market trends and whose strategies are working. With Verizon
there was some frustration about their HD rollout had not started. Well it has started. With cable there is uncertainty whether the HD rollouts will
ever start.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-It-could-be-something-else-20865158 Tue, 29 Jul 2008 09:28:26 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-It-could-be-something-else-20865125
Though given they bundle DSL with DirecTV and they've slacked on promoting DSL in favor of FiOS, they by proxy slacked on promoting their DirecTV relationship.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-It-could-be-something-else-20865125 Tue, 29 Jul 2008 09:18:35 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/It-could-be-something-else-20865083 "It's a good sign the company is losing a significant number of bundled DirecTV customers to cable"

While that may very well be the case it might be that they're losing them to no one. In these economically difficult times..some people may be just doing away with service entirely.

There's been a ton of layoffs and I think if I were in those shoes, one of the first things I'd cut back would be tv service.

Tough to say until the cable co's release their numbers.
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