baineschile
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As one of the few people who actually supports caps on this website, i say, wonderful.
Heavy users need to stop clogging the pipes fore everyone, and pay for what they are actually using.
until we have unfettered internet access, 10gig up and down, with no possibility of network congestion, caps are necessary |
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xirian
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join:2003-01-26
Beacon, NY | even if you support caps, how can you support such a low cap? a 5gb limit on dsl is ridiculous. |
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MisawaGQ
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Mississauga | reply to baineschile
I admit, you made me laugh.
This story is a joke, right? ...Right?
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dcurrey
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If they think anything over 5 gig is a bandwidth hog they must be in serious trouble.
Seems they left out voip, streaming video, radio, windows updates/service packs along with all the other software you either download and patch from the internet.
If you going to do caps I would think the minimum would be 250 gigs. Maybe then we can talk about bandwidth hogs but in the age of HD content being delivered via the internet thats not going to be enough either. |
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elios
join:2005-11-15
Springfield, MO
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wow you DO know one could use that up in one night getting ONE game off STEAM which is totally legal
or how about getting an MMO client
windows SPs?
hell XBL could eat that FAST
and were not even getting in to P2P uses yet
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did some fast math if im right... this ~ just under 7MB A DAY
ARE THEY INSANE might as well use dial up |
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balazone
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At home I go through about 200-300gb per month and of that maybe 1gb is p2p. When you have 4 people using the connection it adds up fast.
Last night I downloaded a few Xbox360 demos and videos totaling about 10gb. Is this unreasonable? That sort of activity is what broadband was made for.
At work we have 22 Comcast accounts and each site uses about 150gb per month (3.3 terabytes total) We would not be able to be in business if we had to stop "clogging the pipes"
5gb is nothing and I feel bad for anyone who will have to suffer with those caps. |
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burgerwars
join:2004-09-11
Northridge, CA
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said by dcurrey  :If they think anything over 5 gig is a bandwidth hog they must be in serious trouble. Seems they left out voip, streaming video, radio, windows updates/service packs along with all the other software you either download and patch from the internet. If you going to do caps I would think the minimum would be 250 gigs. Maybe then we can talk about bandwidth hogs but in the age of HD content being delivered via the internet thats not going to be enough either. Agree. 5 gb is nothing these days. One whole DVD? With an empty 200 gb hard drive (a typical drive these days), if you downloaded 5 gb a month, it would take 3.33 years to fill it. 5gb isn't anywhere near a bandwith hog, especially how ISPs have been pushing higher speeds. |
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axus
join:2001-06-18
Washington, DC
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I know what you're talking about, the number of users can really affect the bandwidth usage. When I lived with 4 other people, the router struggled to keep up. Now, my 'net connection is idle most of the time.
Remember when ISP's tried to limit the number of computers you could connect with? Thus, the home router was born. |
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skyfreedomdo
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Wow, its too damn early for this crap. Let see: VOIP, TIVO, Windows Updates, EMAIL, ANTIVIRUS UPDATES, SPYWARE UPDATES, IM, ITUNES, NETFLIX, etc.
These are things that will eat up your 5GB in a heartbeat, Baineschile L2INTERNET. When you are able to get your movies via your broadband, like Netflix is doing, I wanna see what your opinion is but then again with a comment like this I doubt you even know what can be done on the internet and if you do known, then WISEUP!
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dlconkey
join:2003-01-19
Chicago, IL
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I don't pay for data limits, I pay for speed limits...
Is there some miscommunication somewhere???
I pay for a speed cap, not a usage cap. If the usage is killing the bottom lines, then they're way oversold and screwed themselves. You don't sell cars for the autobahn, allowing 250kph, then say "um, oh wait, you can go that fast, but only for 20km. Then you pay by the meter..."
BS I say!
And dude, people USING their service should not take away from yours. If in fact it does, and this is why the caps are sprouting up, the service is way oversold, and undersized!
If I pay for 200kph and want to drive 1000km if I darned well want too, then THAT is what I bought in the first place!
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Smith6612
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united state
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No joke. It's right here on Frontier's website.
»www.frontieronline.com/policies/···ial_aup/
Heck you can even click the 5GB text and it takes you to this >.>
»www.frontieronline.com/5GB/ |
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Necronomikro
join:2005-09-01
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said by baineschile :As one of the few people who actually supports caps on this website, i say, wonderful. Heavy users need to stop clogging the pipes fore everyone, and pay for what they are actually using. Hell, I went over this over the weekend downloading and patching WoW. I used up over 6GB of traffic, and according to them, that would be 'too much traffic'. But, is downloading and patching a game 'excessive use'? Surely, 5GB is waaay too low. |
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dlconkey
join:2003-01-19
Chicago, IL
clubs: | god forbid you have multiple OS's to d/l and patch...
If you sell me the Autobahn, then the throttle is gonna open wide!
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dlconkey
join:2003-01-19
Chicago, IL
clubs: | reply to baineschile
The problem is: The pipes shouldn't get clogged in the first place! If they are clogged, then the service is being oversold! Simple!
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Dave, Chicago - Edgewater/Uptown, @ the lakefront |
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Omega
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said by baineschile :As one of the few people who actually supports caps on this website, i say, wonderful. Heavy users need to stop clogging the pipes fore everyone, and pay for what they are actually using. Supporting caps is one thing, but the providers need to make the caps reasonable. 5GB in 2008 is not reasonable. There is a plethora of ways to reach that, and none of those include P2P activities. |
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quatrix
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join:2005-02-11
Davie, FL
1 edit | reply to xirian
We're power users with several PCs online all day, including one on VPN full-time and one on VPN part-time, and I've used 33 GB in 189 days, barely above 5 GB per month. The average person should have no problem staying below that.
Edit: Sorry, my numbers are off. We've actually been pulling down about 15 gigs a month. However, we're above-average users and 5 should be doable for most people. |
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wifi4milez
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join:2004-08-07
New York, NY | reply to baineschile
I generally dont have an issue with reasonable caps, however I think 5GB is too low for a wired high speed connection. Even a "normal" user can have issues with 5GB, and thats why I have a problem with it. |
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baineschile
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I wont get my movies via broadband until the quality is up to par with my HDTV (and sorry, its just not at this point). even when netflix parteners up with microsoft and the 360, the quality of broadband video still just doesnt compare.
Until then, my upconverting dvd player, movie collection, and on-demand with the cable company (which has no cap) will be sufficent. |
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baineschile
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you are correct, 5gb is low for a limit.
but remember, only 65% of the country uses broadband connections at home, and of that, 95% use less than 2 gigs per month (per pc mag).
we here, are the heavy users that use the internet to its full extent. MOST people still watch video on tv, and MOST people only use the internet for light browsing and email. |
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RainWind
join:2000-10-20
Van Wert, OH
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said by quatrix :We're power users with several PCs online all day, including one on VPN full-time and one on VPN part-time, and I've used 33 GB in 189 days, barely above 5 GB per month. The average person should have no problem staying below that. ... You're not a power user. At all. My grandmother uses more bandwidth than you do.
How about that latest Diablo 3 HD gameplay footage? 1 gig video. 1 video, 1 gig. The only part of "power user" that fits you is that your equipment probably ups your power bill a bit.
5 gigs is insane. I use that in a day. Watching HD gameplay trailers and listening to streaming music will EASILY consume that amount in under a week. These ISPs need to get real.
With a 5 gig cap you won't be participating in any game betas, since you can get 5 gigs of patches in a week not to mention a 3 gig client download.
How about on-line gaming. You can chew through a bit of bandwidth doing that. Running Rhapsody and WoW, and some other stuff, I can probably chew through 3-4 megs a minute or more. Let's say I game for 4 hours. I can use 1 gig a night just doing some gaming and music listening. Numbers are obviously estimated, but based on my usage that's about right.
The last time I set Rhapsody to auto-download mode I ended up with a 20 gig folder overnight.
I dunno where you're coming up with this 33 gb in 189 days is more than average crap, but your usage is LOW. Maybe if all you do is check your e-mail and cnn.com a few times per day. Try making use of the vast amounts of multimedia (flash games, video, audio) on the web and those numbers will skyrocket. |
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