ElJay
join:2004-03-17 | reply to baineschile
Re: CAPs
I could burn up 5gb in a few days on Hulu or downloading games I purchased on Steam. Frontier is going to put themselves out of business with absurd limits like this. 5gb is not heavy use by any metric. |
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RainWind
join:2000-10-20
Van Wert, OH
| reply to baineschile
I can't believe you honestly trust those numbers.
I bet you think the U.S. also has 95% broadband penetration and all the other crap statistics that someone somewhere has come up with.
I haven't yet met a single person under the age of 40 with highspeed internet who uses 2 gigs or less per month. A teenager will chew that up overnight between myspace, youtube, and a music site.
When the wife has her younger sister over to visit she uses more bandwidth than I do! |
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pspcrazy
Anime Freak
join:2008-02-06
San Diego, CA
 ·DSL EXTREME
| reply to baineschile
As one of the users who thinks users that supports caps are idiots, I say, What are you smoking man? I could achieve that cap in half an hour grabbing 1 anime show. That is dead DEAD low, and is totally ridiculous.
They are going down, just watch and see. |
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pspcrazy
Anime Freak
join:2008-02-06
San Diego, CA | reply to baineschile
Then you haven't been looking at the right sources lol. |
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adisor19
join:2004-10-11
·Velcom
·TekSavvy Solutions..
·Radioactif
 ·Videotron
| said by pspcrazy  :Then you haven't been looking at the right sources lol. I second that. 
Adi |
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BF69
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN
| reply to baineschile
said by baineschile :As one of the few people who actually supports caps on this website, i say, wonderful. Heavy users need to stop clogging the pipes fore everyone, and pay for what they are actually using. Are you being sarcastic or stupid? I'm not against REASONABLE caps. 5 GB is not reasonable. 5 GB, you might as well go back to dial-up. You can't do anything with 5 GB other than check e-mail and dial-up is just fine for that. |
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BF69
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN
| reply to Smith6612
500,000 e-mails
1,750—2,500 High Resolution (6 megapixel) Photos
35,000—40,000 Web Pages
335 Hours of Online Game Time
1,250 Downloaded songs
That's if you only do ONE not all of them. Also I don't see anything about watching YouTube, Hulu or buying/renting movies from Amazon. What we aren't suposed to be doing that with our internet connection? Watching 30 mintues of Hulu a day would put you over the limit. I don't think that is excessive. |
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Bytezboy
join:2001-05-17
New York, NY
| reply to baineschile
said by baineschile :As one of the few people who actually supports caps on this website, i say, wonderful. Heavy users need to stop clogging the pipes fore everyone, and pay for what they are actually using. You need to get your head examined. |
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pspcrazy
Anime Freak
join:2008-02-06
San Diego, CA
·DSL EXTREME
| reply to baineschile
As one of the users who thinks users that supports caps are idiots, I say, What are you smoking man? I could achieve that cap in half an hour grabbing 1 anime show. That is dead DEAD low, and is totally ridiculous.
They are going down, just watch and see. |
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BF69
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN
| reply to elios
said by elios :wow you DO know one could use that up in one night getting ONE game off STEAM which is totally legal or how about getting an MMO client windows SPs? hell XBL could eat that FAST and were not even getting in to P2P uses yet edit did some fast math if im right... this ~ just under 7MB A DAY ARE THEY INSANE might as well use dial up Actually it's 170 MB not 7 MB per day. |
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BF69
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN
| reply to balazone
said by balazone :At work we have 22 Comcast accounts and each site uses about 150gb per month (3.3 terabytes total) We would not be able to be in business if we had to stop "clogging the pipes" technically your work should be using a BUSINESS account and business accounts are not even part of this discussion. |
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dlconkey
join:2003-01-19
Chicago, IL
clubs:
| reply to baineschile
I used to ream RCN... that was years ago as Chicago was the "bastard child" of the entire RCN network after they aquired it from the old 21st Century cable.
The infrastructure was a wreck, and Chicago was always the last in line for all upgrades...
But for all the headaches, and the fact that the call center goes to the frgging Phillipines (I kid you not! Some friendly words gets you a non-tech conversation many times! ) RCN's TOS is a rare breed I think and one I plan to stay with as long as RCN doesn't get the "ATT/Comcast disease".
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TKJunkMail
Enjoy the sun
Premium
join:2002-03-03
Avalon, NJ
 ·Sprint Mobile Broa..
·Comcast
|  reply to baineschile
said by baineschile :As one of the few people who actually supports caps on this website, i say, wonderful. Heavy users need to stop clogging the pipes fore everyone, and pay for what they are actually using. 2 things.
1 - I support caps too. But 5 GB is awfully low even for relatively light users.
2 - Did anyone see if they have plans with higher caps for more money? Or an overage fee? Or is that the cap for all users with no options to get more?
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meh37
@verizon.net
 from:
dlconkey
| reply to quatrix
If you use less than 5GB/mo, then you really don't need broadband... do you? |
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meh37
@verizon.net
| reply to BF69
Anyone handling 500,000 email messages a month is probably a spammer. All in all, though, I just can't help but laugh at Frontier's numbers, and Frontier for "promoting" them. They asked themselves: how can we increase our capacity? They answered: get rid of more customers. Well, it's an answer... not a good one; but it's an answer. |
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gimme5
join:2002-12-23
Kissimmee, FL
| reply to baineschile
said by baineschile :wonderful. Wow. Seriously? Come on, 5GB is waaaay too low to be the threshold for excessive usage. |
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Mike B
@rr.com
from:
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NOCMan
furlonium
Nick_L
dlconkey
|  reply to quatrix
quatrix, you're nowhere close to a power user. When I read about this cap it blew my mind how small it was. 5GB is NOTHING these days.
Here at my home, I've got two desktop PC's, two laptops and 5 other computers acting as servers running in my house. Oh, yeah, and an Xbox 360, a Home TheaterPC for my entertainment center, a DirecTV HD-DVR with On-Demand via Internet, a VOIP phone and an IP webcam.
Let's see how many ways I can break 5GB in a DAY:
• Download any movie from my DirecTV on-demand service on my DVR. HD movies will be at least 5 times more bandwidth.
• Download a game demo on Xbox Live, often 1 GB each.
• Play online multiplayer games with my buddies on Xbox Live or on my PC.
• Watching movie trailers on my desktop PC / watching you-tube videos online.
• Making or receiving ANY phone calls since I have a VOIP phone. BTW, I have TWO lines, one for personal, one for work.
• Working from home and connecting to my office VPN 5 days a week!
• Watching "Watch-Now" netflix movies streamed over the internet on my HTPC.
• Downloading MS patches for OS's for almost 10 PC's.
• Downloading purchased music from Amazon.com in high rez audio.
Dare I continue? These are are things I might do at least once or more during the course of a week, let alone a month!
My wife and I depend considerably on our internet access and it being unlimited. I can only hope that TWC never succeeds in implementing a cap, but who knows.
A 5GB cap is crap and they know it. |
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DaSneaky1D
one wall to block them all
Premium,MVM
join:2001-03-29
The Lou | If you were a registered user, I'd give you a thumbs up! You said exactly what I was thinking!
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cornelius785
join:2006-10-26
Worcester, MA
| reply to baineschile
what about linux users? i'm not talking about the BS of 'i need to download 10 distros a month' stuff. let's just pick Fedora 9 for an argument. that'll be ~4GB to start, if you download the CDs never mind the trying to get all the stuff upto date after a large install which can easily be several hundred megabytes, possible a little over a gigabyte if you install a lot of stuff. keeping the stuff updated can easily add a couple hundred megabytes a month.
I think the ISPs should actually invest into their infrastructure since bandwidth demands are only going to go up. Do you really think pictures are going to stay at 6-megapixels? youtube will stay at a really small resolution? people won't want to download movies from reputable sites? IPTV will never happen? |
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voipdabbler
join:2006-04-27
Kalispell, MT
| reply to dcurrey
dcurrey,
They're an RLEC so they'll never offer naked DSL--they view VOIP as competition and probably would like to kill it. You know, if the baby bells, RLECs and cable companies really think caps are ncessary, then maybe any Internet neutrality rules should address what is a reasonable cap so you don't have these providers trying to kill off competition by imposing unrealistically low caps. |
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