LurkerLito
join:2004-06-08 | Users that ISP need to leave them.
I certainly hope that users just leave them and go to another ISP. 5GB is absolutely unacceptable. Some game demos will already take nearly 2GB. A 5GB cap is like saying your computer is ONLY good for email. My last Steam purchase was 21GB! |
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hottboiinnc
ME
join:2003-10-15
Cleveland, OH
 ·Time Warner Cable
·buckeye cable
| yah good luck with that. especially if Frontier is your only choice of Internet. They are one of the largest rural ILECs in the nation. What are you going to do if they did it and you were a customer? wine and cry and go back to dial-up and then complain that is is slow? |
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pnh102
Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
Premium
join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD
·Comcast
| said by hottboiinnc  : What are you going to do if they did it and you were a customer? wine and cry and go back to dial-up and then complain that is is slow? In all honesty, I most likely would do that. For me, there would be no point at all in wasting money on "Internet Service" that I can't even use anyway.
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This isn't fair! I was only supposed to hate just ONE presidential candidate! |
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ddevilduck
Premium
join:2002-07-26
Minneapolis, MN | reply to hottboiinnc
just got off the phone with Frontier canceled everything I had with them. Its off to netzero for me for a while. |
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older dog
Premium
join:2005-06-09
Norwich, NY
| reply to pnh102
Dial up in many areas serviced by Frontier is $20 or more a month. The cheap dial up providers do not have any local access numbers in this area.
Frontier looks to service areas where there is no competition.
Frontier just recently got a grant from the state to install city wide wireless here.
I believe the only reason they did so was to prevent another carrier from providing competition. |
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hottboiinnc
ME
join:2003-10-15
Cleveland, OH | reply to ddevilduck
if you canceled "everything" with them as you state; how are you going to use NetZero? By saying everything you even say you canceled your landline as well. |
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ddevilduck
Premium
join:2002-07-26
Minneapolis, MN
1 edit | I am lucky that I do have other providers in the area for POTS. They dont offer acceptable DSL, so I will be on NetZero for a while till i research the other providers for HSI.
Frontier was good while it lasted, it never gave me any major problems, but I will not support a company that does boneheaded moves like this |
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hottboiinnc
ME
join:2003-10-15
Cleveland, OH
·Time Warner Cable
·buckeye cable
| if they are your ILEC you will still support them. CLECs will use their lines which when you pay the CLEC part of your monthly payment goes to Frontier. Still supporting them.
Why not just move completely from POTS all together to cable or a WISP? |
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pspcrazy
Anime Freak
join:2008-02-06
San Diego, CA | reply to hottboiinnc
Good for you now we just need to twiddle our thumbs for more to follow. |
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hottboiinnc
ME
join:2003-10-15
Cleveland, OH | this isnt going to do anything if the ILEC is Frontier/Citizen's. They're still going to get a part of what they're paying the CLEC. |
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BF69
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN
| said by hottboiinnc :this isnt going to do anything if the ILEC is Frontier/Citizen's. They're still going to get a part of what they're paying the CLEC. But they are losing the DSL money. The only way people can voice displeasure that companies like this understand is by taking money away from them. Just calling and complaining won't do anything andneitehr will bending over and accepting it. I appluad those that cancell and go back to dial-up. if more people would sacrifice for the greater good, in the end it will be better for all. |
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hottboiinnc
ME
join:2003-10-15
Cleveland, OH
·Time Warner Cable
·buckeye cable
1 edit | no it won't FP will end up raising rates for phone service. and in some areas as before- they're actually the only dial-up provider in many areas with a monthly fee of over $20 per month!
how is that for the greater good? Either way someone is still funding their business with the cap. They'll just keep doing it. And more chances than none- maybe only a few would leave. would they care? probably not especially if the person orders another phone line from them or a CLEC they'll still make the money. Hell when your the ILEC you can always crew the CLECs over by messing up their customers lines and claimng that everything is fixed. Customer come to you and the problem is fixed. a great way to get customers. ATT Ohio did it when it was SBC Ohio and it worked. Citizen's should take lessons from them. |
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BF69
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN
| said by hottboiinnc :no it won't FP will end up raising rates for phone service. and in some areas as before- they're actually the only dial-up provider in many areas with a monthly fee of over $20 per month! how is that for the greater good? Either way someone is still funding their business with the cap. They'll just keep doing it. And more chances than none- maybe only a few would leave. would they care? probably not especially if the person orders another phone line from them or a CLEC they'll still make the money. Hell when your the ILEC you can always crew the CLECs over by messing up their customers lines and claimng that everything is fixed. Customer come to you and the problem is fixed. a great way to get customers. ATT Ohio did it when it was SBC Ohio and it worked. Citizen's should take lessons from them. then switch to cell. What's your solution? Doing nothing? And that's exactly what will be accomplished, NOTHING.
don't come off telling my solution isn't going to work and not have one of your own. SOMETHING has to be done. Only other solution is to truck bomb the corporate headquarters and kill the executives. Not a very pratcial solution in my book. i think canceling service is more reasonable adn will in fact produce results if enough do it. |
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older dog
Premium
join:2005-06-09
Norwich, NY
| Cell service is spotty to non existent in many Frontier areas.
New Yorks PSC is the only hope I think.
Calling the PSC is on my to do list today and I hope as many of you as can will try and help.
I agree with another poster Frontier went to crap when they merged with Citizens. |
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hottboiinnc
ME
join:2003-10-15
Cleveland, OH | how is the NY PSC going to do anything? they can't regulate the price of the Internet. the Internet is not utility |
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older dog
Premium
join:2005-06-09
Norwich, NY
| The New York PSC is a bit more consumer friendly than in many states.
When I had asked them before about some of frontiers methods the reply was that they would look a whole lot closer at Frontiers entire operation.
Sometimes a bit of pressure in one place can effect change in another. |
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hottboiinnc
ME
join:2003-10-15
Cleveland, OH
·Time Warner Cable
·buckeye cable
| they can look into all they want. but there is not a law that says the PUCs/PSC have any control over what ISPs do weather their telcos or cable or dial-up or dsl.
The internet is NOT regulated which doesn't give them the states or the feds to say they can or can not have a cap or if it is too low or to high.
just a waste of time calling the PSC/PUCs |
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hottboiinnc
ME
join:2003-10-15
Cleveland, OH
·Time Warner Cable
·buckeye cable
| reply to BF69
there is WISPs and their is also EVDO and anything else. You're trying to cut the hand that feeds the mouth by not doing direct business with them and doing it with a CLEC but still feads the mouth. Doesnt make any sense. you should just stay with them as they get paid either way.
And i'd watch how you toss around blowing up someone's office. You maybe the one in line of fire after saying that. |
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ddevilduck
Premium
join:2002-07-26
Minneapolis, MN
| reply to hottboiinnc
I will be dropping POTS altogether as soon as I finish my research into other options in my area.
I can go with Mediacom, or I can do wireless, There are also 2 other providers that I am looking into.
On my last bill out of $109 phone line was at 24.95 not counting taxes and other "fees" New provider I called today voice line was quoted as $21.95. Sure there will be "taxes" and "gov fees" that bring it up to more than the 24.95 I previously paid and some of that is going to Frontier anyway but at least its not the complete 24.95 going to Frontier. Even if the new provider is only getting to keep $3.00 from my bill that is $3.00 less that was going directly to Frontier before |
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pspcrazy
Anime Freak
join:2008-02-06
San Diego, CA | reply to hottboiinnc
Chill, sheesh you seem like you've interested into suicidal debate mode with no return. |
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