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Eug
join:2007-04-14
Toronto, ON
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Major HNPA rollouts
said by Matt  :I'm also interested in HPNA v3 or the new MoCA gear but can't find the stuff anywhere. Looks like AT&T (HPNA) and Verizon (MoCA) are snapping up all the gear for their rollouts. Hmmm... Interesting. I was not aware of this. (We don't have anything comparable happening in Canada.)
Hopefully this will ensure the widespread use of this type of hardware. Both HNPA 3.0 and MoCA seem to have a lot of potential. I had just given up on them since it has taken so long for anything to show up in the retail channel... and because I wanted something now.
BTW, I found this article from last year on AT&T's plans.
AT&T seems to think that powerline is faster but less reliable. I could see that. What I do think is ironic though is that AT&T thinks that wireless is the worst of the three. Ironic because nowadays, wireless is almost ubiquitous and it's quite cheap, yet it's still considered the worst.  I've now used HPNA 2, powerline 200 Mbps, and 802.11g, and I'd have to agree, wireless is by far the most irritating to get working properly.
said by huyvu :Eug - can I ask where you picked up your refurbs? I've seen the 85Mbps models for about $35 but not your models. I'm getting by with the older 14Mbps but there's not enough bandwidth to streaming MP3s and pics. I got mine of eBay. I have already received four, and I am waiting for 2 more. I sent you the link via PM/email.
P.S. I will have 5 powerline adapters in active use. (One of those 6 will be a backup.) Of the four I currently have plugged in, one of them is actually for my Airport Express for music streaming. My wireless signal is quite strong where the AE is located, but the AE itself simply is not that reliable over wireless (which is stupid, because that's its #1 job and marketing description). So, I'm using the powerline networking there instead, and turning off the AE's wireless completely. With the AE plugged into the powerline networking adapter via Ethernet, the connection for iTunes streaming is 100% solid. (I've only tested it a few days now though so YMMV, but it's definitely more reliable than the AE over wireless.)
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Eug
join:2007-04-14
Toronto, ON
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Latency
Pings to another computer attached to the same local (wired) router:
64 bytes from 192.168.x.xx: icmp_seq=5 ttl=64 time=0.309 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.x.xx: icmp_seq=6 ttl=64 time=0.329 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.x.xx: icmp_seq=7 ttl=64 time=0.290 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.x.xx: icmp_seq=8 ttl=64 time=0.280 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.x.xx: icmp_seq=9 ttl=64 time=0.365 ms
Pings to garage (where I get 30 Mbps via power line, across two panels):
64 bytes from 192.168.x.xx: icmp_seq=5 ttl=127 time=3.963 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.x.xx: icmp_seq=6 ttl=127 time=3.376 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.x.xx: icmp_seq=7 ttl=127 time=31.770 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.x.xx: icmp_seq=8 ttl=127 time=4.468 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.x.xx: icmp_seq=9 ttl=127 time=3.625 ms
Pings to gazebo in garden (where I get 12 Mbps via power line):
64 bytes from 192.168.x.xx: icmp_seq=5 ttl=127 time=33.203 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.x.xx: icmp_seq=6 ttl=127 time=11.134 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.x.xx: icmp_seq=7 ttl=127 time=5.945 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.x.xx: icmp_seq=8 ttl=127 time=21.944 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.x.xx: icmp_seq=9 ttl=127 time=62.885 ms
So it would seem that as the power line network speeds drop, the latencies increase as well. Furthermore that latency increase can be quite substantial. Luckily, I'm not gaming in the gazebo. 
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