 dadkinsCan you do Blu?Premium,MVM
join:2003-09-26
Hercules, CA
kudos:18 | reply to Mele20
Re: [Vista] Admin question said by Mele20:Why would you want to disable the ONLY REAL Admin account? Your admin account is a psuedo admin account and has some restrictions. If you want to run Vista like an admin does on XP then you have to unhide the true Admin account and use it instead of your psuedo admin account. Correct!
I got tired of things failing and Vista asking/telling me to contact the "Administrator" do install/change/run something(s) so I ENABLED the Administrator and took possession(renamed it to *ME*) and have been running fine since.
The psuedo Admin is a joke! 
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 Irish SharkPlay Like A Champion TodayPremium,MVM
join:2000-07-29
Las Vegas, NV
kudos:3 | In hindsight that step should be removed. The Administrator account is disabled by default in Vista.
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dadkinsCan you do Blu?Premium,MVM
join:2003-09-26
Hercules, CA
kudos:18 | said by Irish Shark:In hindsight that step should be removed. The Administrator account is disabled by default in Vista. Right!
And the BS that is still thrown in ones face while supposedly running as Administrator when in fact one is not, should be explained/fixed/renamed to "Elevated User".
When I get calls about an "administrator" in Vista getting dialogs about having to contact the "Administrator" to complete a task... it gets annoying REAL fast! 
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 SoonerAlOld enough to know betterPremium,MVM
join:2002-07-23
Norman, OK
kudos:5 | I run as a standard user on my Vista Ultimate laptop 98% of the time. My wife runs as a limited user on her XP Pro desktop 100% of the time. I have a common root user account on both PCs with admin permissions and only use that for maintenance tasks. The built-in Administrator account on my Vista laptop is disabled although I did enable it long enough to assign a password to it. The built-in Administrator account on my wife's XP desktop also has a password assigned.
My wife has no idea what the Administrator or root user passwords are. She does have access to a password protected and encrypted password database in case I drop dead and she, or someone else, needs it as a backup.
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Irish SharkPlay Like A Champion TodayPremium,MVM
join:2000-07-29
Las Vegas, NV
kudos:3 | reply to dadkins
Don't take your frustrations out on me. I did not design Vista.
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dadkinsCan you do Blu?Premium,MVM
join:2003-09-26
Hercules, CA
kudos:18 | Sorry Irish!
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Mele20Premium
join:2001-06-05
Hilo, HI
kudos:4 | reply to dadkins
said by dadkins:Correct! I got tired of things failing and Vista asking/telling me to contact the "Administrator" do install/change/run something(s) so I ENABLED the Administrator and took possession(renamed it to *ME*) and have been running fine since. The psuedo Admin is a joke! I just wish I had known what a joke the psuedo admin account is on Vista BEFORE I installed Vista. I assumed the default admin account was like that in XP and that my "admin" account on Vista was like my admin account on XP. By the time I realized that I was not operating from an admin account even though Vista said I was, I had so much on it that moving it all to the real admin account is going to be a headache. All the hassle could have easily been avoided if I had any idea that Microsoft lies when it says my account is an admin account. It isn't. I suppose Microsoft would say that they redefined what an "admin" account means in Vista as opposed to what it means in XP so they weren't lying...just manipulating definitions and not making that crystal clear to users before they install Vista and not providing them with access to the real builtin admin account during Vista installation.
As soon as I finally started researching the issue, I found a long list of sites complaining about this and explaining how to unhide the real admin account. Ironically, the real admin account has NO password on it and my psuedo admin account has a very long, complex password on it. That happened because I thought I was placing the long, complex password on the default builtin Admin account in Vista when I installed it and placed the password. That is what you do when you install XP and I assumed Vista handled the default builtin Admin account in the same manner.
It turned out I had placed the password on my psuedo account instead because I did not know I had to unhide the real admin account in order to even put a password on it much less use it. So, when I did unhide it, I wasn't even prompted to put a password on it...I guess Microsoft thought no one would unhide it? I can't understand why it is hidden and disabled in the first place. Everyone using Vista (except a permanently limited user like in a business or a child) will have to unhide and enable it so why hide and disable it by default? That makes no sense for home users especially.
Ideally, Vista should behave like XP. There probably should be an admin account that is hardly ever used. I don't use the builtin Admin account on XP...only in an emergency would I need to use it. Plus, I have a real Admin account on XP that I use all the time. Vista should be the same. Here we are forced to use the builtin Admin account on Vista because there are no other real admin accounts on Vista as there are on XP. That is a sad situation and perhaps dangerous too as if login becomes corrupted or something where you really need the default admin account....on Vista the corrupted login would be to the only real admin account and then what do you do? Very stupid of Microsoft to not give users true full admin accounts if they want them.
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