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 a333A hot cup of integrals please
join:2007-06-12
Rego Park, NY
 ·Cingular Wireless
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Re: Misleading title LOL, while Stuyvesant H.S. (one of the best specialized high schools) faces a $800,000 cut for this coming year (along with many other good high schools throughout the city), they're thinking of wasting 8 MILLION on something as useless as this? Sad.... I mean, this isn't even about providing BB to UNSERVED areas..
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 wifi4milezBig Russ, 1918 to 2008. Rest in Peace
join:2004-08-07
New York, NY | said by a333:LOL, while Stuyvesant H.S. (one of the best specialized high schools) faces a $800,000 cut for this coming year (along with many other good high schools throughout the city), they're thinking of wasting 8 MILLION on something as useless as this? Sad.... I mean, this isn't even about providing BB to UNSERVED areas.. Sad.......... I couldnt agree more, this is a true tragedy. In all honesty the term WASTE is the only appropriate word to describe this nonsense. For those who dont know, Stuyvesant is one of the best public schools in the country. Cutting money to an institution like that just so "lower income" people can have fiber is outrageous. Nobody needs fiber. Lower income people will NOT (get ready for this) jump into the middle class simply by getting fiber. As I said before, spend the $8 million on education, sanitation, and law enforcement. This makes me sad to be a New Yorker.
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If history teaches us anything, it teaches that simple-minded appeasement or wishful thinking about our adversaries is folly.
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patcat88
join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY
kudos:1 | said by wifi4milez:As I said before, spend the $8 million on education, sanitation, and law enforcement. This makes me sad to be a New Yorker. Dump any money in there and it disappears into a Union black hole. | | |
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a333A hot cup of integrals please
join:2007-06-12
Rego Park, NY Reviews:
·Cingular Wireless
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And actually, I myself am a soon-to-be sophomore in Stuyvesant, and sad thing is, the principal Mr. Teitel is even considering CUTTING DOWN the school day, from 10 to 8 periods, inclusive of lunch... Heck, this coming semester, even A.P. courses are being cut, due to budgetary constraints. The robotics team/other clubs/pubs are having their after-school hours reduced, and many won't even get funding from the school anymore. And that's not to mention the state of our overcrowded mass transit system, where it takes nearly 1/2 hr at times to get from midtown to City Hall even on an express train.
It just makes my blood boil to see huge wastes of money like these, when even getting a good education seems like a challenge in this city.
And how the heck does FTTH to 'poor' people make them rise in the social standing overnight? Without basics like a good education and a good mass transit system, how the HELL do the underprivileged/anyone for that matter, rise? I'm SICK of these govt's putting their taxpayers' hard-earned money into a seemingly bottomless pit, and it HAS to stop. | |
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| you and a few others on here need to take a breather. They are not using tax money. They're asking COMPANIES to give the money. NOT TAX PAYERS! If states actually gave funding to the public schools like they're suppose to Schools wouldn't be in this problem. Also does it hurt to do fundraisers to get the money for your clubs? why does a teacher have to be paid after hours to sit and baby sit you? they can donate their time. It's not like their forced to stay after and sit with the clubs; they are asked and can say no or yes. If they say yes then its a volunteer to say yes- not part of any contract i'm sure.
Also you are free to move from Public to Private school at any time you wish. There is a thing called No Child Left Behind Act which will help you move from Public to Private school. In many cases i'm sure you could get a good scholarship at a private school if you're an AP student. | |
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I didn't realize common sense was part of the public school curriculum! | |
wifi4milezBig Russ, 1918 to 2008. Rest in Peace
join:2004-08-07
New York, NY | reply to hottboiinnc
said by hottboiinnc:you and a few others on here need to take a breather. They are not using tax money. They're asking COMPANIES to give the money. NOT TAX PAYERS! I think the real point is that the money could be put to better use, regardless of where it comes from. $8 million can do a lot of good, and providing fiber access to low income areas (that can already get broadband) is a waste.
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If history teaches us anything, it teaches that simple-minded appeasement or wishful thinking about our adversaries is folly.
-Ronald Reagan-
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 kamm
join:2001-02-14
Brooklyn, NY | said by wifi4milez:said by hottboiinnc:you and a few others on here need to take a breather. They are not using tax money. They're asking COMPANIES to give the money. NOT TAX PAYERS! I think the real point is that the money could be put to better use, regardless of where it comes from. $8 million can do a lot of good, and providing fiber access to low income areas (that can already get broadband) is a waste. So in other words as soon as your point (whatever it was) turned out to be based on a complete BS (due to either not reading or lack of understanding the article) you keep beating the same propaganda drums?
Interesting.
I wonder why blokes like you are alwaysafraid when something wouldn't make money for private companies but rather could help some folks, all financed from private money...
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kamm
join:2001-02-14
Brooklyn, NY | reply to hottboiinnc
said by hottboiinnc:you and a few others on here need to take a breather. They are not using tax money. They're asking COMPANIES to give the money. NOT TAX PAYERS! If states actually gave funding to the public schools like they're suppose to Schools wouldn't be in this problem. Also does it hurt to do fundraisers to get the money for your clubs? why does a teacher have to be paid after hours to sit and baby sit you? they can donate their time. It's not like their forced to stay after and sit with the clubs; they are asked and can say no or yes. If they say yes then its a volunteer to say yes- not part of any contract i'm sure. Also you are free to move from Public to Private school at any time you wish. There is a thing called No Child Left Behind Act which will help you move from Public to Private school. In many cases i'm sure you could get a good scholarship at a private school if you're an AP student. Ssssh, stop making sense. You're confusing the foaming mouthpieces - they don't like facts when they go against their preformatted, canned opinions. 
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I suggest you READ before posting false information about the government and the budget. There were articles in NYT, NY Daily News, and NY Post about the restoration of the school funds. If you look under CM Gerson's budget for schools Stuyvesant and the other specialized schools received even more funding than before the cut.
here's the link: »council.nyc.gov/html/budget/Scho···ts.shtml | |
wifi4milezBig Russ, 1918 to 2008. Rest in Peace
join:2004-08-07
New York, NY | reply to kamm
said by kamm:said by wifi4milez:said by hottboiinnc:you and a few others on here need to take a breather. They are not using tax money. They're asking COMPANIES to give the money. NOT TAX PAYERS! I think the real point is that the money could be put to better use, regardless of where it comes from. $8 million can do a lot of good, and providing fiber access to low income areas (that can already get broadband) is a waste. So in other words as soon as your point (whatever it was) turned out to be based on a complete BS (due to either not reading or lack of understanding the article) you keep beating the same propaganda drums? Interesting. I wonder why blokes like you are alwaysafraid when something wouldn't make money for private companies but rather could help some folks, all financed from private money... What?? That doesnt even make sense. My point (from the very start) was that it is a complete waste of $8m to provide subsidized fiber to areas already served by broadband. Faster broadband is NOT what those people need, and anyone who argues that they do is a twit. What exactly is your point?
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If history teaches us anything, it teaches that simple-minded appeasement or wishful thinking about our adversaries is folly.
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a333A hot cup of integrals please
join:2007-06-12
Rego Park, NY Reviews:
·Cingular Wireless
3 edits | reply to hottboiinnc
Ummm, OK......
First of all, we DO fundraisers, it's called candy sales, but we barely break even as it is.
2nd: The teachers don't 'babysit' us, they actually are CS faculty members who know their stuff when it comes to robotics. Also, it's a school stipulation imposed upon us that we MUST be with a teacher to stay beyond 6 pm. We didn't impose that rule. The DOE DID....
3rd: Teachers don't do it for free, sorry. These days, NO ONE donates their time to do overtime as a teacher, especially when that involves staying in school till 11 PM at times, and sometimes going on 300-mile trips to competition venues...
And what's this BS about moving to private school? Do you have any idea of how much private school COSTS? Why should I pay nearly $20,000/year while the gov't deducts nearly a third of my parents' paychecks in taxes? Why? So that I can get the same education that children from richer families are provided with? You obviously have no idea of what you're talking about, and are just spewing random BS. Heck, you don't even live in NY. And NCLB's a pure POS. I was in one of the middle schools that were slated to be closed, back in '04-'05. I applied to the NCLB right after 7th grade ended, to transfer to any better school. Guess what? They declined any of my 10 choices. And, to add insult to injury, they replied in SEPTEMBER, when the '07 school year had BEGAN. I'd applied in june. My parents couldn't even decide if they could move or not to a better area, as with NCLB, I'd have been able to go to a non-zoned school w/o moving. Instead, they hurriedly had to rush into an unfavorable lease in a MUCH expensive area, just to give me a better education.
Therefore, NCLB= FAIL, IMHO
And stop insulting the hard work that we, as Specialized HS students, put in just to get INTO the damn system to begin with. Believe me, when you have to break your back studying for a competitive exam, where you must compete with 20,000 other applicants for maybe a 1000 seats, it's not easy. On top of that, when you face a 50-min. train ride each way, along with at least 2 transfers, and you've gone through that life for a year, only to face this kind of crap, it does give you a kick.
And RTFA... The city even has setup a 'Broadband Advisory Committee', in other words, a bottomless money pit, to 'solve' the city's broad problems. First of all, this is f'ing NYC we're talking about. You're hard-pressed to find a place w/o a single broadband option. Cablevision, as others have said, already offer free BB to schools/libraries. TW does as well. You wanna expand BB to Staten Island? FiOS and DSL, AND cable already have it covered. Queens? Hard to find a 'black hole' If you're rich enough to pay the rent in Great Neck/Nassau, you DEFINITELY can at LEAST afford TW's Lite 768K tier for $20/mo. if DSL isn't available. And 3G/EVDO pretty much covers every inch of the five boroughs. So why waste tax money hiring consultants (»www.computerworld.com/action/art···=9110977) or setting up Committees? Use that for better education/police/mass transit.
And sorry, I really don't feel for those teen twits that thought they were too old for comdoms, and ended up having a family of 6 children whe they couldn't handle it, and now want free internet access on top of free healthcare/child support because they want to see anime at 20 Meg speeds. Don't have internet, go to the darned library! And get a job, for crissake... there's life out there outside of playing WoW at high speeds.
Please stop spewing BS, and have a nice day.... | |
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