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Xizer
join:2004-02-05
New York, NY
|  Powerboost is the lamest gimmick ever.
I am rarely able to get my 15 Mbps rated speed outside of Usenet or extremely well seeded torrents. Occasionally, companies like Microsoft have fast enough servers.
Is there a way to get around this speed test cheater? | |
|  Reinvent3d
join:2004-12-06
Camarillo, CA
1 edit | Re: Powerboost is the lamest gimmick ever. You DO know that you are limited on websites due to THEIR OWN upload right? Not every single host can upload at 15 Mbps, and if they did, then they'd have to have a huge infrastructure just to support all those concurrent users.
That's why you get a typical 1 MB/sec or less from regular sites and what not. Lots of users to send information to.
The reason torrents and usenet does so well is because it's multiple peers. If there weren't multiple peers (ie, only 1), you'd be getting the same, if not significantly less than a standard website download.
So really, in standard applications, you can't really max it out unless you use peering of some sort to fully use it all. | |
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Xizer
join:2004-02-05
New York, NY
| Re: Powerboost is the lamest gimmick ever. said by Reinvent3d  :You DO know that you are limited on websites due to THEIR OWN upload right? Not every single host can upload at 15 Mbps, and if they did, then they'd have to have a huge infrastructure just to support all those concurrent users. Exactly which is why a 30 Mbps little "powerboost" that lasts for 10 seconds is worthless when I can't even get my sustained 15 Mbps anyway.
It screws up speedtests which is incredibly annoying. | |
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join:2004-12-06
Camarillo, CA
| Re: Powerboost is the lamest gimmick ever. said by Xizer :said by Reinvent3d :You DO know that you are limited on websites due to THEIR OWN upload right? Not every single host can upload at 15 Mbps, and if they did, then they'd have to have a huge infrastructure just to support all those concurrent users. Exactly which is why a 30 Mbps little "powerboost" that lasts for 10 seconds is worthless when I can't even get my sustained 15 Mbps anyway. It screws up speedtests which is incredibly annoying. Even though it's using packet bursting to a degree, why are you running speedtests all the time? It's not cheating, nor is it useful to REALLY measure where your speeds should be at.
I think you missed the point of powerboost, which was to help download large files off the internet. You simply just aren't doing that with a speedtest. If the powerboost is useless, and you aren't getting your 15 Mbps sustained in normal operation for actual huge file downloads, then something is wrong on your end. It's not the bursts at all.
And heck, again...I will say it once more. Not every host is capable of uploading a full 15 Mbps to EACH and EVERY user that connects.
But if you are still arguing that it's worthless, then maybe you should switch to the standard tier or something. | |
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Dareius
Self proclaimed Premium member
join:2002-11-12
Elmhurst, NY
| Re: Powerboost is the lamest gimmick ever. The problem is, a majority of forum patrons have become too attached to the speed tests as if the results from them are the final definitive of the customer's actual internet speed. People who cannot see outside the box for a minute will think Powerboost is a complete waste without looking at the bigger picture. | |
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Rombus
Premium
join:2007-04-11
Columbus, OH | Re: Powerboost is the lamest gimmick ever. @Dareius is quite correct!
What do you do most with your connect? Most likely web surfing.
Web surfing is just a bunch of short small file transfers, that should benefit greatly from power boost. | |
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Eco-Text -- Why print E-mails?
join:2003-10-01
Carlsbad, CA
| If it's free, then who cares? (like others mentioned, why moan & groan if they offer it for free?)
As for sustained 15 mbps DL, I have pretty good luck if the file I am looking for is cached on a RR supported server. If not, then I am limited to the Internet traffic congestion and to the UL limits of the host site.
As an FYI, I was a COX user until I moved into RR territory last year. I "enjoyed" PowerBoost while on COX and IMHO, RR is late with this offering. On the other hand, they did offer a 15/2 plan, which was better than COX' 10/1.
I first tried AT&T's U-Verse and was totally disappointed (granted, it wasn't all their fault as the cabling in the new condo complex I live in has some problems). | |
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Steve Mehs
Go Sabres
join:2005-07-16 | Geeze, people will complain about anything I guess...
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Cthen
join:2004-08-01
Ypsilanti, MI
 ·Comcast
| Re: Powerboost is the lamest gimmick ever. said by Steve Mehs :Geeze, people will complain about anything I guess... Lol you think that's bad, you should have seen how many people bitched in the Comcast forums when they got something for free!  | |
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Dareius
Self proclaimed Premium member
join:2002-11-12
Elmhurst, NY | It's better than nothing at all. | |
| RoadRunner79
join:2008-01-19
San Antonio, TX
·RoadRunner Cable
| My echo in here is that I feel cheated that I'm in the PLG 15/2 and people with 10/1 packages are getting the same results as me. I feel ripped off but again their are alot of factors that will effect speeds but I should still be a ways apart from 10/1 users.
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Rombus
Premium
join:2007-04-11
Columbus, OH | Re: Powerboost is the lamest gimmick ever. You guys do realize that the speed tests are JUST numbers?! Your overall speed will still be better with someone with a lower package, just not over the first X seconds of a download. | |
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join:2008-01-19
San Antonio, TX | Re: Powerboost is the lamest gimmick ever. regardless if my speed is better than a lower package a lower package should not be matching my X amount of reference numbers on my line speed. | |
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Rombus
Premium
join:2007-04-11
Columbus, OH
| Re: Powerboost is the lamest gimmick ever. said by RoadRunner79 :regardless if my speed is better than a lower package a lower package should not be matching my X amount of reference numbers on my line speed. But why? What difference does it make what the numbers mean if you know your on the turbo package? And its only going to match for the first seconds of the connection. | |
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join:2008-01-19
San Antonio, TX
·RoadRunner Cable
| Re: Powerboost is the lamest gimmick ever. said by Rombus :said by RoadRunner79 :regardless if my speed is better than a lower package a lower package should not be matching my X amount of reference numbers on my line speed. But why? What difference does it make what the numbers mean if you know your on the turbo package? And its only going to match for the first seconds of the connection. My best guess is $$$ | |
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Rombus
Premium
join:2007-04-11
Columbus, OH
| Re: Powerboost is the lamest gimmick ever. said by RoadRunner79 :My best guess is $$$ No you did not understand my question
Why do the number matter to you? if you know your connection is faster, why do your numbers HAVE to be bigger than someone who isn't paying for turbo even though you know for sure your package is faster | |
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join:2008-01-19
San Antonio, TX
·RoadRunner Cable
| Re: Powerboost is the lamest gimmick ever. said by Rombus :said by RoadRunner79 :My best guess is $$$ No you did not understand my question Why do the number matter to you? if you know your connection is faster, why do your numbers HAVE to be bigger than someone who isn't paying for turbo even though you know for sure your package is faster I know my connection is faster but when I'm paying more than a standard user and he's getting my speeds that bothers me alot. The link I'm putting in shows what they have going on in my area,
»www.timewarnercable.com/SanAnton···eed.html
So maybe you will understand why I'm twisted at the fact that people that are not in a 2 year contract and are paying less than me are getting my speeds, that's BS | |
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MacLeech
The one and only
Premium
join:2001-07-14
SoCal
| Re: Powerboost is the lamest gimmick ever. said by RoadRunner79 :I know my connection is faster but when I'm paying more than a standard user and he's getting my speeds that bothers me alot. The user with Powerboost only gets comparable speeds to you for a short time, your speeds keep that high level.
In the end you still download larger files faster, which is the point of paying more right? | |
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Rombus
Premium
join:2007-04-11
Columbus, OH
| Re: Powerboost is the lamest gimmick ever. said by MacLeech :In the end you still download larger files faster, which is the point of paying more right? Mac, i suggest you give up like i am, Ive tried making that point since page 1, and these brickwalls just dont understand it. | |
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join:2008-01-19
San Antonio, TX
·RoadRunner Cable
| Re: Powerboost is the lamest gimmick ever. Please do not think your words have fallen on deaf ears, I understand what your saying and thanks for hearing me and others out, but even if standard users are only able to keep up with me for a short time is aggravating because from the link I posted earlier standard users should not even be getting a power boost in the first place. They are not in a contract or had to get all the requirements I had to get just to get into the PLG. This is the part that I agree with the title of this thread 
Thanks. | |
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P2p Shouldn't Be A Crime
join:2001-08-27
Lancaster, CA
·RoadRunner Cable
 ·DSL EXTREME
| Re: Powerboost is the lamest gimmick ever. Here are my own thoughts on powerboost. If you're going to increase speed, make it permanent. Why have a powerboosted download that looks like it'll take just 3 minutes when in fact it's going to take 6 minutes or more for example once the speed drops backed to provisioned rates.
I'd expect that my provisioned speed should be the maximum speed I'd receive. If say a 6mbit tier gets powerboosted to 12mbit, then my speedtests will show me able to achieve 12mbit when in fact that's not at all would I'd get in the long term. PowerBoost provides a sense of false hope if you will, since you think that you have more speed than you do when you run a test.
Why not just upgrade everyone to the speeds you want Powerboost to reflect so it's permanent? I know if I'm uploading something and I have upload powerboost, I'll think great this will be done in no time, when in fact that's not the case. Just upgrade speeds, especially the upstream, rather than teasing us! Others can do it, why can't TWC? | |
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netgear
Restless Native
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join:1999-12-20
Arlington, TX
·AT&T DSL Service
·RoadRunner Cable
1 edit | Re: Powerboost is the lamest gimmick ever. said by kd6cae :[...] If you're going to increase speed, make it permanent. Why have a powerboosted download that looks like it'll take just 3 minutes when in fact it's going to take 6 minutes or more for example once the speed drops backed to provisioned rates{?} [...] Because, by far the majority of people do not need continuous 25 Mbps download speeds. That is the bottom line.
A "Powerboost" product allows VOD efficiency as well as the occasional large file download.
Rightly so, a "Powerboost" product does not benefit leeches, freeloaders & cheapskates. Those customers, in the eyes of a growing number of ISPs, are reducing broadband performance for the masses.
Simple stuff. | |
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Anonymous_
Anonymous
Premium
join:2004-06-21
127.0.0.1
clubs:
·RoadRunner Cable
·Time Warner Cable
 ·Time Warner VOIP
| Re: Powerboost is the lamest gimmick ever. said by netgear :said by kd6cae :[...] If you're going to increase speed, make it permanent. Why have a powerboosted download that looks like it'll take just 3 minutes when in fact it's going to take 6 minutes or more for example once the speed drops backed to provisioned rates{?} [...] Because, by far the majority of people do not need continuous 25 Mbps download speeds. That is the bottom line. A "Powerboost" product allows VOD efficiency as well as the occasional large file download. Rightly so, a "Powerboost" product does not benefit leeches, freeloaders & cheapskates. Those customers, in the eyes of a growing number of ISPs, are reducing broadband performance for the masses. Simple stuff. Comcast permaboost worked on torrents
well in WA anyways | |
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Xizer
join:2004-02-05
New York, NY
2 edits | said by netgear :said by kd6cae :[...] If you're going to increase speed, make it permanent. Why have a powerboosted download that looks like it'll take just 3 minutes when in fact it's going to take 6 minutes or more for example once the speed drops backed to provisioned rates{?} [...] Because, by far the majority of people do not need continuous 25 Mbps download speeds. That is the bottom line. A "Powerboost" product allows VOD efficiency as well as the occasional large file download. Rightly so, a "Powerboost" product does not benefit leeches, freeloaders & cheapskates. Those customers, in the eyes of a growing number of ISPs, are reducing broadband performance for the masses. Simple stuff. "Leeches, freeloaders and cheapskates"? Are you referring to heavy bandwidth users? I use my connection every month and pay for it, thank you very much.
Also, major ISPs only pay 2 cents per gigabyte. Even if someone downloaded over 1,000 GB in a month, which is entirely reasonable, they would only be costing their ISP $20 that month. Chances are, if they're using that much bandwidth in a month, they're already paying their ISP three times that amount to subscribe to their services.
It is difficult, even for someone who is running their connection 24/7 using their full rated speed, to actually cost an ISP money in terms of bandwidth cost.
This whole "bandwidth shortage" is a manufactured famine. This is why nations which actually have proper infrastructure and ISPs that aren't focused solely on profiting as much as possible while providing as little value as possible like Norway, Sweden, Japan and South Korea have such impressive Internet connectivity. | |
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Premium,MVM
join:2001-02-14
San Jose, CA
·Pacific Bell - SBC
| Re: Powerboost is the lamest gimmick ever. said by Xizer :It is difficult, even for someone who is running their connection 24/7 using their full rated speed, to actually cost an ISP money in terms of bandwidth cost. It will cost the ISP in dissatisfied customer leaving over congestion because 0.01% of the subscriber are using 90% of the bandwidth.
This whole "bandwidth shortage" is a manufactured famine.
There is certainly plenty of backbone bandwidth. The problem is with the "Last Mile" bandwidth.
This is why nations which actually have proper infrastructure and ISPs that aren't focused solely on profiting as much as possible while providing as little value as possible like Norway, Sweden, Japan and South Korea have such impressive Internet connectivity.
Norway, Sweden, and South Korea combined have only 21% of the population of the U.S. Probably 90% of which population lives in urban/suburban areas which are relatively cheaply wired, compared with the U.S.
Even Japan packs half the population of the U.S. in an area just under the size of the state of California. If 80% of the population of the U.S. lived in San Francisco, or Los Angeles, or were stretched in between, you'd have a valid point.
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| | | | | kd6cae
P2p Shouldn't Be A Crime
join:2001-08-27
Lancaster, CA
·RoadRunner Cable
·DSL EXTREME
| Leeches, freeloaders and Cheapskates huh? I can't help but wonder which of those classes I fall in to, since I'm paying for TWC business class 15/2 service. I got this service, which will cost me $118.95 for the next 2 years, mainly for upload purposes, as I do off site file backup of large files. Many of these files are in fact mp3s, and large CD images among others. Is there something wrong with wanting to back these files up remotely, and wanting a decent internet connection to do it with, not some half baked power boosted solution? I'm hoping my type of connection won't get this power boost mess, that's just my thoughts on the whole thing. Either provide better speeds permanently or not at all. I'm happy with what I'm getting right now however, though I do pay plenty for this speed that others pay much less for, for example users on FIOS. | |
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hobgoblin
Sortof Agoblin
Premium
join:2001-11-25
Orchard Park, NY
clubs:
| Re: Powerboost is the lamest gimmick ever. "I'm hoping my type of connection won't get this power boost mess, that's just my thoughts on the whole thing."
You will be happy.
It won't.
Hob
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Xizer
join:2004-02-05
New York, NY | Re: Powerboost is the lamest gimmick ever. Does this apply to all business classes or are the "business class lites" like Home Business Class going to get Powerboost? | |
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Premium
join:2001-06-05
Hilo, HI
| said by netgear :Because, by far the majority of people do not need continuous 25 Mbps download speeds. That is the bottom line. A "Powerboost" product allows VOD efficiency as well as the occasional large file download. Rightly so, a "Powerboost" product does not benefit leeches, freeloaders & cheapskates. Those customers, in the eyes of a growing number of ISPs, are reducing broadband performance for the masses. Simple stuff. If people don't need 25mbps down then why is Oceanic offering 100mbps/100mbps on this island NOW in one area and more areas before the end of the year?
Powerboost is crap and I hope we don't get it. Even with my lowly standard speed, I want to see my speed on MySpeed Advanced that I bought and I run on a regular basis in the background with testing however many minutes apart I set it for. I don't want powerboost interfering with my speed tests.
If TW is providing 100/100 NOW to some areas they should be able to provide it to all. But that is too much speed plus the monthly cost to the user would be too high for most users. I don't need that extreme amount of speed. But my point is powerboost is silly junk when I know some folks on this island are getting 100/100. I think those of on this island not being offered 100/100 this year should be offered something better than speedboost. Standard should be upped to at least 10/1 and Turbo to 15/2 and Turbo Extreme to 30/2.
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Rombus
Premium
join:2007-04-11
Columbus, OH
| Re: Powerboost is the lamest gimmick ever. I don't understand this forum sometimes...
Time Warner is giving you a FREE (read: YOU AREN'T PAYING EXTRA FOR IT) temporary speed boost. Yet you all whine?
It helps small files and streaming content, you know, like your normal day to day surfing. Streaming Content will start quicker, since the powerboost will fill the buffer faster.
Will it not help large downloads? Of course not, that's why you have the turbo service.
Will it break speed tests? Of course, since speed tests themselves are inherently flawed. It does not average your speed over a larger amount of time, they usually are only a 5-30 second snapshot of your speed. I mean, short of verifying your provisioned right, and as an indicator of speed issues, what else do speedtests do? make your epeen feel bigger?
This will make your day to day browsing faster for free, and yet you guys just sit there and bitch about it. | |
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Brockport, NY
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Anonymous_
Anonymous
Premium
join:2004-06-21
127.0.0.1
clubs:
·RoadRunner Cable
·Time Warner Cable
·Time Warner VOIP
| Re: Powerboost is the lamest gimmick ever. said by Pizz :Powerboost is for Residential Lines only - It will not be applied to the business class connections. this is directly from a business class rep here in New York City. but to add further into this 'Powerboost' fiasco - I really dont care, how they improve their network. If Powerboost does it, im all for it. But i seriously doubt this will be it, in terms of what we'll be seeing. A 'friend' told me - Heavy FIOS Competition markets, will be the first to see Docsis 3.0 based gear. As the CMTSes have been ordered and just await for vendors to distribute them, goes for the modem vendors as well. I wonder if this is true or not, i'm hoping others can chime on that? so that means i will get Docsis 3.0 based gear
soon ?
west side has it but there is one CMTS in the area | |
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Premium
join:2006-07-03
Poway, CA | Re: Powerboost is the lamest gimmick ever. Even when DOCSIS 3.0 is available, you might not be willing and/or able to pay for it; I heard that Comcast is charging $150/month for their initial 3.0 service offering in Minnesota. No idea if/when the prices might come down. | |
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Pizz
Hi
join:2000-10-27
Astoria, NY | according to my 'source' yes, if you're in heavy fios penetration. I know that NYC is seeing its plants being upgraded at a very high pace. | |
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Anonymous_
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127.0.0.1
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2 edits | Re: Powerboost is the lamest gimmick ever. well there is FiOS internet/TV Deployment going on on the west side att u-suckk internet(10/1.5)/TV on the east side
west lanscaster,CA/palmdale,CA FIOS
East lanscaster,CA/palmdale,CA att-usuckk
the CMTS is in lanscaster | |
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Pizz
Hi
join:2000-10-27
Astoria, NY | Re: Powerboost is the lamest gimmick ever. Punker, i dont know about the west coast. But i know that if areas are getting hit with alot of FIOS peneration - That area will be getting DOCSIS 3.0 sooner than later.
What service you use for CATV punker with all those options. | |
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Anonymous_
Anonymous
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join:2004-06-21
127.0.0.1
clubs: | Re: Powerboost is the lamest gimmick ever. twc for now but i am moving soon and will be getting satellite | |
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maartena
Stacked.
Premium
join:2002-05-10
Orange, CA
·RoadRunner Cable
| I personally don't care for it much either (I would rather have those speeds all the time), but I can see advantages. If you have a big download, and I have those now and then, it is nice to be able to get it a little quicker.
I would like an option though to enable/disable it from the RoadRunner account webpage, so you can still do proper speed testing. Alternatively, RoadRunner can host a list of sites for which powerboost is never enabled, and add the IP addresses of the major test servers.
Either way, since you aren't charged for it, we shouldn't complain about free stuff. 
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Pizz
Hi
join:2000-10-27
Astoria, NY | Got ya punker, try and move to a FIOS market if you can. But i think CATV from TimeWarner will get better - i just think they never thought competition would come in so fast, so they have no choice but to get rid of the SDV | |
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Steve Mehs
Go Sabres
join:2005-07-16 | Re: Powerboost is the lamest gimmick ever. Time Warner has invested a lot of money in SDV, they're not getting rid of it anytime soon. They're doing the opposite, they're expanding on it. Sorry.
SDV is a godsend | |
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Pizz
Hi
join:2000-10-27
Astoria, NY | Re: Powerboost is the lamest gimmick ever. sad if they keep to it, but i understand if they do. But alot of customers who have the opportunity to get FiosTv, will probably end up switching to it. | |
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Steve Mehs
Go Sabres
join:2005-07-16 | Re: Powerboost is the lamest gimmick ever. What's your problem with SDV?
I swear, TW will never and can never do right in the eyes of you guys.
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Racerbob
join:2001-06-24
Webster, NY
·FrontierNet Intern..
·RoadRunner Cable
| Re: Powerboost is the lamest gimmick ever. But by the same token Steve, even when there are issues with TW in any way, you turn the other cheek and pretend not to notice. I am all for whatever TW as a company can do for me as a customer. But I also welcome the day, for example, when Verizon makes a serious attempt to come into this market and offers some reasonable and serious competition to the almighty TW empire . Competition is good. Not to get off topic too much, but Frontier can't compete as we all know, and heaven forbid that TW institutes caps in this area. But then, pray tell, what service would we be able to turn to ? We all are not bottomless money pits and there is a very definite limit as to what I am willing to pay for internet and TV services. | |
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Steve Mehs
Go Sabres
join:2005-07-16
| Re: Powerboost is the lamest gimmick ever. I don't have to pretend not to notice anything, because I have never noticed anything I have NEVER had any service problems that weren't related to a problem on my end or routine maintenance, never had any billing problems or anything of the sort. Verizon is my telco, and they can go to hell, Fios will never enter my home. If TW implements caps, Road Runner Business Class at 6Mb/1.5Mb is still twice as fast as Verizon DSL, both up and down. I was paying $85/month for Road Runner Premium at one point for 6Mb/512Kb when I had DirecTV and before the price came down. I'm not afraid to go back to paying that much. What you chose to do, I honestly could careless, that's your business and it's a shame you won't be bouncing back and forth between providers to save a dime, but I have a plan in place that I can execute. I believe AOL still has dial up access, you can give that a try.
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Rombus
Premium
join:2007-04-11
Columbus, OH
| Dbmaven is correct, and to that affect, thinking about this thread made me realize a few great points, so let me pick apart some of these arguments:
1. "I Dont like power boost since it effects my speed test results"
I'm willing to step back from the whole "Speedtests are not accurate" argument. Why? Because Powerboost will not affect speedtests that are used for diagnostic sake. If your speeds are slow now, they will still be slow with powerboost. Why? A speed test usually lasts ~30 seconds, and that's what powerboost is designed to speed up. Powerboost isent going to somehow fix level issues, ping issues, or node congestion. So if your slow now, you will be slow with powerboost, and you wont notice much of a change.
2. "They should only give this to Turbo users, somehow this devalues my turbo connection"
First, this question depends on what your using your connection for. If your downloading large files constantly, then of course your turbo service is still going to be better than standard road runner. If you just wanted the faster speed to surf the web faster, then TWC is giving you a great opportunity to downgrade and save some money. Chances are with powerboost your connection will still "Feel" the same, and your saving money.
3. "TWC should spend money on network updates and not features like this"
Keep in mind, This does not cost the company as much as upgrading to docsis3 and i essentially look at as a interim upgrade till they start rolling our docsis3 soon. I mean overall cost cant be that expensive, its just a setting change and code update. | |
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Racerbob
join:2001-06-24
Webster, NY
·FrontierNet Intern..
·RoadRunner Cable
| As usual Steve, your nasty attitude shows through loud and clear. I have a family to support and don't live with mom and dad.There are limits as to what I ***can*** spend on my internet and TV services. To pay $85 a month for any internet service is just plain ludicrous to put it plainly. As I said, you worship Time Warner more than anyone else I have come in contact with. Nothing wrong with that, but there are other services that are slowly but surely going to be creeping into our areas and for sure, they are going to be worth investigating. FIOS does indeed offer superior speed to what Roadrunner offers for a very comparable cost. If and when that becomes available to me as a customer, for sure I would check out what they had to offer. For now, I shall stay with TW, but can only hope for the day that Verizon eats Frontier up, lock, stock and barrel. Then and only then will Time Warner have a legitimate challenger in this one horse town. I just hope that in the meantime that we are not forced to change what we do on the net every day and how much we do it. | |
| | Mele20
Premium
join:2001-06-05
Hilo, HI
| Re: Powerboost is the lamest gimmick ever. said by Racerbob :As usual Steve, your nasty attitude shows through loud and clear. .. As I said, you worship Time Warner more than anyone else I have come in contact with. Don't you remember RoadRunner Rick?....Maybe Steve is him in disguise?
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Steve Mehs
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| It's really not my place to care what you can afford to spend, that does not concern me, what concerns me is getting the fastest internet access available, with no caps and not paying Verizon. One call to 1-866-756-FAST for Biz Class service is all it takes and I will not be forced to change what I do on the net every day and how much I do it. Things are a little tighter now, with my monthly payment for my new Lincoln SUV, but I can still swing a $200 cable bill and more if need be. Just not so sure how the billing would work for residential cable TV and business broadband, but hopefully it won't come to that.
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| | | Mele20
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join:2001-06-05
Hilo, HI
| Re: Powerboost is the lamest gimmick ever. said by Steve Mehs : One call to 1-866-756-FAST for Biz Class service is all it takes and I will not be forced to change what I do on the net every day and how much I do it. Things are a little tighter now, with my monthly payment for my new Lincoln SUV, but I can still swing a $200 cable bill and more if need be. Then why pay that much for 6/1? Move to Hualalai Resort in Kona, Hawaii. No one is sure of the price yet but Oceanic is currently offering those home owners 100mbps/100mbps. You can probably afford whatever price they end up with.
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join:2005-07-16 | Re: Powerboost is the lamest gimmick ever. You couldn't pay me enough to live in Hawaii. Buffalo is my home | |
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Smith6612
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join:2008-02-01
united state | Well, my only guess is try using Filefront.com if you want to see your full speed (in which case you need to know your conversions). They've been able to max 20Mbps FiOS and keep it maced until the download finishes. | |
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Racerbob
join:2001-06-24
Webster, NY
1 edit | Hey, I am a frequent speedtester myself. Force of habit I guess. We really don't need this powerboost stuff here. Just let us be with my 10 meg download, but 1 meg on the upload would be nice TW. | |
| | | | | | GameGuy369
join:2004-07-09
Olathe, KS
clubs: | Dont complain. Sometimes in my area, Comcast's powerboost gets "stuck", and I download torrents between 2-3MB/s for hours. It's great when I need to download those ever-so-legal things I need. | |
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Xizer
join:2004-02-05
New York, NY
1 edit | said by NormanS :It is difficult, even for someone who is running their connection 24/7 using their full rated speed, to actually cost an ISP money in terms of bandwidth cost.
It will cost the ISP in dissatisfied customer leaving over congestion because 0.01% of the subscriber are using 90% of the bandwidth. This whole "congestion" thing is the biggest, most blatant lie I have ever seen. How do I know it's a lie? Because I always get my full connection speed. If there was congestion going on, it's not like my traffic is special and would always get priority over everyone else's, so I should see a slower speed from others using their connections as well. I don't.
Quite frankly, I don't think anyone's going to be bitching any time soon when they only get 10 Mbps instead of their 15 Mbps for a brief period during the day, especially if it means caps are the alternative. Most people won't even notice a speed difference.
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Rombus
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join:2007-04-11
Columbus, OH
| Re: Powerboost is the lamest gimmick ever. I like how most here think there area doesn't need it, apparently they talk for everyone in their area
@Mele20:
Since you ignored my previous post, let me ask again:
How does a speedtest show your connection is correct? What do you look for? If its running slow, its still going to run slow with powerboost. Powerboost is not going to fix signal level, noise, router or congestion issues. Keep in mind powerboost only speeds up the first few seconds of a connection, which is what a speed test measures. If its slow, powerboost wont help it.
So what else do you do with a speedtest? Well if you are running them consistently, and looking for the issue, then as long as the speed is faster than what you pay for, then you are golden. Since your speedtest only checks for ~30 seconds anyway, you wont be finding intermittent slowdowns unless you constantly test.
The last think i can think of you would use a speed test for (Besides the obvious of bragging rights) is to make sure your modem is provisioned correctly. Well, you can call TWC and they can verify its all setup right. Modems do not randomly "unprovision" themselves without some mistake being made by someone with account access, and the only time they should be in your account is when your talking to them on the phone. | |
| | | Mele20
Premium
join:2001-06-05
Hilo, HI
1 edit | Re: Powerboost is the lamest gimmick ever. I don't think you understand anything about MySpeed. It is not a typical speed test. I suppose I should just post the lengthy reply I just got from Visualware but I'd have to get permission. I'm too tired and it is too late in the wee hours now for me to paraphrase the response. Maybe tomorrow.
edit: You said Powerboost was just for a "few seconds"???? We have had a HUGE boost for a "few seconds" for years. So, has Oceanic TW had Powerboost when no other TW division had it or are you wrong about the length of time for Powerboost...I thought it was for SEVERAL MINUTES.
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| | | | daveinpoway
Premium
join:2006-07-03
Poway, CA
| Re: Powerboost is the lamest gimmick ever. I tried the MySpeed test, and the download graph was a huge mess, with tons of lag spikes. Not sure if that is right, but it probably isn't, since my speeds are shot right now (testing within my ISP's system, I am only getting about 3 Mbps download speed, even though I am supposed to get 15).
I see there is an "Advanced" option, but this asks for a user name and password, so you probably have to pay for it. | |
| | | | daveinpoway
Premium
join:2006-07-03
Poway, CA | Have you had the time to paraphrase the info you received from Visualware? I would be interested in seeing it. | |
| | NormanS
Premium,MVM
join:2001-02-14
San Jose, CA
·Pacific Bell - SBC
| said by Xizer :I always get my full connection speed. Why don't I believe that? Because 90% of the Internet sources aren't capable of sustaining your download speed on their upload bandwidth.
If there was congestion going on, it's not like my traffic is special and would always get priority over everyone else's, so I should see a slower speed from others using their connections as well. I don't.
Have you ever actually been on a congested node? It is the "Last Mile" where the congestion has the biggest adverse affect.
Quite frankly, I don't think anyone's going to be bitching any time soon when they only get 10 Mbps instead of their 15 Mbps for a brief period during the day...
They already do.
Bandwidth shortage is a manufactured famine.
Not on the "Last Mile".
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