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Xizer

join:2004-02-05
New York, NY
reply to hobgoblin
Re: Powerboost is the lamest gimmick ever.

Does this apply to all business classes or are the "business class lites" like Home Business Class going to get Powerboost?


Pizz
Hi

join:2000-10-27
Astoria, NY
·Verizon Online DSL
·RoadRunner Cable

reply to Xizer
Powerboost is for Residential Lines only - It will not be applied to the business class connections. this is directly from a business class rep here in New York City.

but to add further into this 'Powerboost' fiasco - I really dont care, how they improve their network. If Powerboost does it, im all for it. But i seriously doubt this will be it, in terms of what we'll be seeing.

A 'friend' told me - Heavy FIOS Competition markets, will be the first to see Docsis 3.0 based gear. As the CMTSes have been ordered and just await for vendors to distribute them, goes for the modem vendors as well.

I wonder if this is true or not, i'm hoping others can chime on that?


Anonymous_
Anonymous
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join:2004-06-21
127.0.0.1
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said by Pizz See Profile :

Powerboost is for Residential Lines only - It will not be applied to the business class connections. this is directly from a business class rep here in New York City.

but to add further into this 'Powerboost' fiasco - I really dont care, how they improve their network. If Powerboost does it, im all for it. But i seriously doubt this will be it, in terms of what we'll be seeing.

A 'friend' told me - Heavy FIOS Competition markets, will be the first to see Docsis 3.0 based gear. As the CMTSes have been ordered and just await for vendors to distribute them, goes for the modem vendors as well.

I wonder if this is true or not, i'm hoping others can chime on that?
so that means i will get Docsis 3.0 based gear

soon ?

west side has it but there is one CMTS in the area


Pizz
Hi

join:2000-10-27
Astoria, NY
reply to Xizer
according to my 'source' yes, if you're in heavy fios penetration. I know that NYC is seeing its plants being upgraded at a very high pace.


Anonymous_
Anonymous
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join:2004-06-21
127.0.0.1
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well there is FiOS internet/TV Deployment going on on the west side att u-suckk internet(10/1.5)/TV on the east side

west lanscaster,CA/palmdale,CA FIOS

East lanscaster,CA/palmdale,CA att-usuckk

the CMTS is in lanscaster

daveinpoway
Premium
join:2006-07-03
Poway, CA
reply to Anonymous_
Even when DOCSIS 3.0 is available, you might not be willing and/or able to pay for it; I heard that Comcast is charging $150/month for their initial 3.0 service offering in Minnesota. No idea if/when the prices might come down.


cork1958
Cork

join:2000-02-26
Fruitport, MI
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reply to Xizer
"Powerboost is the lamest gimmick ever."

And what was your first clue on this and how long did it take for you to realize that is all it is intended to be?

The first time I heard of this, I couldn't believe how lame the idea even sounded. I wouldn't want to be paying for "bursts." Just give me a good, constant/consistant speed.
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Mele20
Premium
join:2001-06-05
Hilo, HI

reply to netgear
said by netgear See Profile :

Because, by far the majority of people do not need continuous 25 Mbps download speeds. That is the bottom line.

A "Powerboost" product allows VOD efficiency as well as the occasional large file download.

Rightly so, a "Powerboost" product does not benefit leeches, freeloaders & cheapskates. Those customers, in the eyes of a growing number of ISPs, are reducing broadband performance for the masses.

Simple stuff.
If people don't need 25mbps down then why is Oceanic offering 100mbps/100mbps on this island NOW in one area and more areas before the end of the year?

Powerboost is crap and I hope we don't get it. Even with my lowly standard speed, I want to see my speed on MySpeed Advanced that I bought and I run on a regular basis in the background with testing however many minutes apart I set it for. I don't want powerboost interfering with my speed tests.

If TW is providing 100/100 NOW to some areas they should be able to provide it to all. But that is too much speed plus the monthly cost to the user would be too high for most users. I don't need that extreme amount of speed. But my point is powerboost is silly junk when I know some folks on this island are getting 100/100. I think those of on this island not being offered 100/100 this year should be offered something better than speedboost. Standard should be upped to at least 10/1 and Turbo to 15/2 and Turbo Extreme to 30/2.
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Rombus
Premium
join:2007-04-11
Columbus, OH

I don't understand this forum sometimes...

Time Warner is giving you a FREE (read: YOU AREN'T PAYING EXTRA FOR IT) temporary speed boost. Yet you all whine?

It helps small files and streaming content, you know, like your normal day to day surfing. Streaming Content will start quicker, since the powerboost will fill the buffer faster.

Will it not help large downloads? Of course not, that's why you have the turbo service.

Will it break speed tests? Of course, since speed tests themselves are inherently flawed. It does not average your speed over a larger amount of time, they usually are only a 5-30 second snapshot of your speed. I mean, short of verifying your provisioned right, and as an indicator of speed issues, what else do speedtests do? make your epeen feel bigger?

This will make your day to day browsing faster for free, and yet you guys just sit there and bitch about it.

Mele20
Premium
join:2001-06-05
Hilo, HI

You think taking away my right to determine if I have speed problems (which I ALWAYS have....but sometimes not as bad as other times) is fine and dandy? SHIT. The ONLY reason TW is pulling this crap is to stop users from being able to ask for a truck roll for speed problems. Only a naive idiot would welcome this thinly veiled attempt to deny us any recourse when our speed is bad. I have many years records of my speed tests. I can currently PROVE how bad RR is. I won't be able to do that with this shit that you think I should like. It is pure shibai and TW has just proven themselves to be the WORST of the broadband providers...right up there with Crapcast.

With this crap I won't be able to see the QOS which is the most important aspect of a good speed test. Plus, how dare TW cripple the software I paid good money for (MySpeed Advanced)? Visualware has said this is cunning ploy on TW's part to deny us the right to test our speed and get speed problems fixed. Now I know why Oceanic TW recently dropped Visualware's MySpeed as the speed test for Hawaii RR users in favor of a totally junk test. I'd like to say TO HELL WITH A CRAP SERVICE LIKE TW but TW has a monoply in Hawaii and dsl is not available to me or I would have switched a long time ago.This is the WORST thing TW could possibly pull on its users. It shows TOTAL DISDAIN for the users. Give me a REAL speed increase ...not a fake one that makes it impossible for me to know what my speed really is. This is so despicable that it amazes me that ANYONE could argue that we should like it.
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Rombus
Premium
join:2007-04-11
Columbus, OH

:Eyeroll:

ITs not some "FAKE" Increase, the data is getting to your computer faster.

All a company needs to do is make a speedtest that averages over 1 or 2 min and you will get a proper result!

You know what, i give up. I do. This thread, in its singularity, is the perfect example of what is wrong with DSLReports. You guys wont be happy unless you have a fiber connection into your home, free of charge, with unlimited bandwidth and no cap. Guess what, your precious speedtests would not work then either, since it would be too fast for most web based tests. Would it matter to you all though? Of course not, since you have the bragging rights of a free fiber connection to your home.

Time Warner Cable could include a crisp $20 in the monthly bill every month and someone on DSLR would:
Complain it was not enough and they should get more
Complain it was too much and they should get less
Complain that they should just take the $20 off the bill
Complain that they should get more since they have X service.

Mele20
Premium
join:2001-06-05
Hilo, HI

I don't use a web based HTTP test. I use a socket to socket test. HTTP tests are unreliable.

You must know that forums are a place for those who are not happy with whatever service, etc. they have. The happy ones, usually also the ignorant ones, (and that is why they are happy) don't come to forums to post. This forum is no different that those of other ISPs forums here.
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Rombus
Premium
join:2007-04-11
Columbus, OH
Any speed test is unreliable if its not testing for very long.

Do you think companies test fiber links using a 10 second burst of data?


MacLeech
The one and only
Premium
join:2001-07-14
SoCal


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reply to Mele20
said by Mele20 :

Plus, how dare TW cripple the software I paid good money for (MySpeed Advanced)? Visualware has said this is cunning ploy on TW's part to deny us the right to test our speed and get speed problems fixed.
ISPs upgrade their product and suddenly they're wrong because of inadequate testing methods by a 3rd party? Yeah... how does that make sense???

How about the speedtest providers UPGRADE THEIR TEST to better reflect the product the ISPs are offering? Why can't THEY fix THEIR test?

Make it so the test is longer and provides a graph of speed over time so users can see the peak speed and average speed. That way they can tell max speed caused by Powerboost and average speed due to actual provisioned bandwidth.

...or shall ISPs not upgrade their product because a 3rd party speed test can't handle it? Good thing they upgraded the tests to measure faster then dial-up speeds... 1200 baud sucks.

For example... The guys in the Optimum Online forum created a FTP test YEARS ago because all of these flash and java tests weren't good enough, they didn't test long enough or use a big enough file among other things. They still have it available today. They didn't blame OOL, they fixed the test. Adelphia had done the same before being bought out...


Dareius
Self proclaimed Premium member

join:2002-11-12
Elmhurst, NY

Sheesh! Usually Friday's are the best day of the week for mood swings, but this forum is reading off like a Monday already.

To those hating on Powerboost, what will venting on a forum really reward you with? It is not like you will NOT use the service until the point in time you can switch providers to replace TWC.

I guess I find it funny imaginging some angry poster(s) in this thread losing sleep at night due to being irate over Powerboost.

I mean we all have issues with RR, but not to the point where you are looking for a bridge to jump off of to end it all.


Pizz
Hi

join:2000-10-27
Astoria, NY
·Verizon Online DSL
·RoadRunner Cable

reply to Rombus
said by Rombus See Profile :

:Eyeroll:

ITs not some "FAKE" Increase, the data is getting to your computer faster.

All a company needs to do is make a speedtest that averages over 1 or 2 min and you will get a proper result!

You know what, i give up. I do. This thread, in its singularity, is the perfect example of what is wrong with DSLReports. You guys wont be happy unless you have a fiber connection into your home, free of charge, with unlimited bandwidth and no cap. Guess what, your precious speedtests would not work then either, since it would be too fast for most web based tests. Would it matter to you all though? Of course not, since you have the bragging rights of a free fiber connection to your home.

Time Warner Cable could include a crisp $20 in the monthly bill every month and someone on DSLR would:
Complain it was not enough and they should get more
Complain it was too much and they should get less
Complain that they should just take the $20 off the bill
Complain that they should get more since they have X service.
Well the amount of Money I've paid for CATV/Internet to TimeWarner Cable throughout years, i should have a connection more than 15/768 - I hate use other countries, but when i do goto Asia a few times a year, i personally see technology is a great thing - while in fact they do pay less for more.

Some Americans, know when they're getting ripped off others just take it. Hell this entire site was built on a user who was pissed off mainly.

I enjoy powerboost, as my son and wife do too. They notice the speeds, when transferring a song from RR Rhapsody to their MP3 device - and for myself i enjoy getting some updates insanely fast


Pizz
Hi

join:2000-10-27
Astoria, NY
reply to Anonymous_
Punker, i dont know about the west coast. But i know that if areas are getting hit with alot of FIOS peneration - That area will be getting DOCSIS 3.0 sooner than later.

What service you use for CATV punker with all those options.


Steve Mehs
Go Sabres

join:2005-07-16


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reply to Rombus
said by Rombus See Profile :

I don't understand this forum sometimes...

Time Warner is giving you a FREE (read: YOU AREN'T PAYING EXTRA FOR IT) temporary speed boost. Yet you all whine?

It helps small files and streaming content, you know, like your normal day to day surfing. Streaming Content will start quicker, since the powerboost will fill the buffer faster.

Will it not help large downloads? Of course not, that's why you have the turbo service.

Will it break speed tests? Of course, since speed tests themselves are inherently flawed. It does not average your speed over a larger amount of time, they usually are only a 5-30 second snapshot of your speed. I mean, short of verifying your provisioned right, and as an indicator of speed issues, what else do speedtests do? make your epeen feel bigger?

This will make your day to day browsing faster for free, and yet you guys just sit there and bitch about it.
Because a lot of people on here a just a bunch of crybabies.

If you're unhappy with Time Warner and PowerBoost, check out dial up. You can do more accurate speedtest and we can finally quit hearing people cry about the stupidist things.


Xizer

join:2004-02-05
New York, NY

said by Steve Mehs See Profile :

If you're unhappy with Time Warner and PowerBoost, check out dial up. You can do more accurate speedtest and we can finally quit hearing Mele cry about the stupidist things.
When Time Warner puts in those new caps I think we're all going to have to be checking out dial-up...


Steve Mehs
Go Sabres

join:2005-07-16


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said by Xizer See Profile :

said by Steve Mehs See Profile :

If you're unhappy with Time Warner and PowerBoost, check out dial up. You can do more accurate speedtest and we can finally quit hearing Mele cry about the stupidist things.
When Time Warner puts in those new caps I think we're all going to have to be checking out dial-up...
And you know for a fact they'll be capping the service? TW test markets a lot of things in different areas, some take off, some don't. So quit your crying....
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