Mele20
Premium
join:2001-06-05
Hilo, HI
| reply to MacLeech
Re: Powerboost is the lamest gimmick ever.
I intend to contact Visualware about it. In fact, I will do it now. The Visualware test is the most advanced, reliable test out there as long as Powerboost is not involved.
As far as I know, Time Warner still uses MySpeed on all its gateways. The current Oceanic speed test is just a junk Flash test which doesn't even show QOS or anything important. It will be worthless too if/when Oceanic implements Powerboost. The only other worthwhile speed tests (Web100) will also be no good. Sure, I can use OOL's FTP download and I have been using it for years but that is ONE test in ONE location. I want more than that and I want tests on the West Coast and I want a decent Oceanic test.
This Powerboost cripples the ability to tell if things are ok for me. I'm not on Oahu. Sure, I can run Ping Plotter to "local-server" using TCP engine (since ICMP is blocked by Oceanic) but I need other information also and speed tests are one of the things I need....accurate speed tests that is.
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Racerbob
join:2001-06-24
Webster, NY
1 edit | reply to Xizer
Re: Powerboost is the lamest gimmick ever.
Hey, I am a frequent speedtester myself. Force of habit I guess. We really don't need this powerboost stuff here. Just let us be with my 10 meg download, but 1 meg on the upload would be nice TW. |
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GameGuy369
join:2004-07-09
Olathe, KS
clubs: | reply to Xizer
Re: Powerboost is the lamest gimmick ever.
Dont complain. Sometimes in my area, Comcast's powerboost gets "stuck", and I download torrents between 2-3MB/s for hours. It's great when I need to download those ever-so-legal things I need. |
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NormanS
Premium,MVM
join:2001-02-14
San Jose, CA
 ·Pacific Bell - SBC
| reply to Xizer
said by Xizer  :It is difficult, even for someone who is running their connection 24/7 using their full rated speed, to actually cost an ISP money in terms of bandwidth cost. It will cost the ISP in dissatisfied customer leaving over congestion because 0.01% of the subscriber are using 90% of the bandwidth.
This whole "bandwidth shortage" is a manufactured famine.
There is certainly plenty of backbone bandwidth. The problem is with the "Last Mile" bandwidth.
This is why nations which actually have proper infrastructure and ISPs that aren't focused solely on profiting as much as possible while providing as little value as possible like Norway, Sweden, Japan and South Korea have such impressive Internet connectivity.
Norway, Sweden, and South Korea combined have only 21% of the population of the U.S. Probably 90% of which population lives in urban/suburban areas which are relatively cheaply wired, compared with the U.S.
Even Japan packs half the population of the U.S. in an area just under the size of the state of California. If 80% of the population of the U.S. lived in San Francisco, or Los Angeles, or were stretched in between, you'd have a valid point.
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Xizer
join:2004-02-05
New York, NY
1 edit | reply to Xizer
said by NormanS :It is difficult, even for someone who is running their connection 24/7 using their full rated speed, to actually cost an ISP money in terms of bandwidth cost.
It will cost the ISP in dissatisfied customer leaving over congestion because 0.01% of the subscriber are using 90% of the bandwidth. This whole "congestion" thing is the biggest, most blatant lie I have ever seen. How do I know it's a lie? Because I always get my full connection speed. If there was congestion going on, it's not like my traffic is special and would always get priority over everyone else's, so I should see a slower speed from others using their connections as well. I don't.
Quite frankly, I don't think anyone's going to be bitching any time soon when they only get 10 Mbps instead of their 15 Mbps for a brief period during the day, especially if it means caps are the alternative. Most people won't even notice a speed difference.
Bandwidth shortage is a manufactured famine. |
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Rombus
Premium
join:2007-04-11
Columbus, OH
| I like how most here think there area doesn't need it, apparently they talk for everyone in their area
@Mele20:
Since you ignored my previous post, let me ask again:
How does a speedtest show your connection is correct? What do you look for? If its running slow, its still going to run slow with powerboost. Powerboost is not going to fix signal level, noise, router or congestion issues. Keep in mind powerboost only speeds up the first few seconds of a connection, which is what a speed test measures. If its slow, powerboost wont help it.
So what else do you do with a speedtest? Well if you are running them consistently, and looking for the issue, then as long as the speed is faster than what you pay for, then you are golden. Since your speedtest only checks for ~30 seconds anyway, you wont be finding intermittent slowdowns unless you constantly test.
The last think i can think of you would use a speed test for (Besides the obvious of bragging rights) is to make sure your modem is provisioned correctly. Well, you can call TWC and they can verify its all setup right. Modems do not randomly "unprovision" themselves without some mistake being made by someone with account access, and the only time they should be in your account is when your talking to them on the phone. |
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Mele20
Premium
join:2001-06-05
Hilo, HI | reply to MacLeech
Do you know what the time division algorithm for
speed-boost is? |
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Pizz
Hi
join:2000-10-27
Astoria, NY
·Verizon Online DSL
 ·RoadRunner Cable
| reply to Xizer
I dont understand, nor comprehend how MSO's can even have a last mile run problem. Subs keep getting signed up, so if there was this so called 'last mile bandwidth' issue, wouldnt they hold off on signups, until upgrades are put into place.
Powerboost is fine for the short term, but long term, this cannot be considered the future of MSO broadband.
Plus as a Turbo Subscriber in NYC - my speeds are identical to someone with Standard. Guess i should cancel it. |
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Mele20
Premium
join:2001-06-05
Hilo, HI
1 edit | reply to Rombus
I don't think you understand anything about MySpeed. It is not a typical speed test. I suppose I should just post the lengthy reply I just got from Visualware but I'd have to get permission. I'm too tired and it is too late in the wee hours now for me to paraphrase the response. Maybe tomorrow.
edit: You said Powerboost was just for a "few seconds"???? We have had a HUGE boost for a "few seconds" for years. So, has Oceanic TW had Powerboost when no other TW division had it or are you wrong about the length of time for Powerboost...I thought it was for SEVERAL MINUTES.
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supergirl
join:2007-03-20
Pensacola, FL
 ·Cox VOIP
·Skype
·Cox HSI
·AT&T Southeast
·magicjack.com
| reply to Xizer
said by Xizer :Where do all you guys plan on downloading at 3.8 MB/sec anyway? I am rarely able to get my 15 Mbps rated speed outside of Usenet or extremely well seeded torrents. Occasionally, companies like Microsoft have fast enough servers. Is there a way to get around this speed test cheater? When surfing, it is nice. Email is really fast too. I stay at about 25 down on a large 1 gig download but start sometimes in the 30-35 range for the first minute. It is also nice for YouTube since Powerboost works for the time the video plays and same with movie trailers.
As Grandpa Simpson said, "B@tch, B@tch, B@tch!"   
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RoadRunner79
join:2008-01-19
San Antonio, TX
·RoadRunner Cable
| reply to Rombus
said by Rombus :said by RoadRunner79 :My best guess is $$$ No you did not understand my question Why do the number matter to you? if you know your connection is faster, why do your numbers HAVE to be bigger than someone who isn't paying for turbo even though you know for sure your package is faster I know my connection is faster but when I'm paying more than a standard user and he's getting my speeds that bothers me alot. The link I'm putting in shows what they have going on in my area,
»www.timewarnercable.com/SanAnton···eed.html
So maybe you will understand why I'm twisted at the fact that people that are not in a 2 year contract and are paying less than me are getting my speeds, that's BS |
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Selenia
I'm a PC running Linux, so sue me
join:2006-09-22
Pittsfield, MA | reply to Xizer
Just download a Linux iso such as Ubuntu via a torrent(the iso comes in handy anyways in emergencies). If you don't get good speeds and your port is forwarded, then something IS wrong. I have maxed out a 100 mbit connection with those. |
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MacLeech
The one and only
Premium
join:2001-07-14
SoCal
| reply to RoadRunner79
said by RoadRunner79 :I know my connection is faster but when I'm paying more than a standard user and he's getting my speeds that bothers me alot. The user with Powerboost only gets comparable speeds to you for a short time, your speeds keep that high level.
In the end you still download larger files faster, which is the point of paying more right? |
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Rombus
Premium
join:2007-04-11
Columbus, OH
| said by MacLeech :In the end you still download larger files faster, which is the point of paying more right? Mac, i suggest you give up like i am, Ive tried making that point since page 1, and these brickwalls just dont understand it. |
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NormanS
Premium,MVM
join:2001-02-14
San Jose, CA
·Pacific Bell - SBC
| reply to Xizer
said by Xizer :I always get my full connection speed. Why don't I believe that? Because 90% of the Internet sources aren't capable of sustaining your download speed on their upload bandwidth.
If there was congestion going on, it's not like my traffic is special and would always get priority over everyone else's, so I should see a slower speed from others using their connections as well. I don't.
Have you ever actually been on a congested node? It is the "Last Mile" where the congestion has the biggest adverse affect.
Quite frankly, I don't think anyone's going to be bitching any time soon when they only get 10 Mbps instead of their 15 Mbps for a brief period during the day...
They already do.
Bandwidth shortage is a manufactured famine.
Not on the "Last Mile".
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