AT&T Backbone Sees 20% P2P Drop > This is alarming

reply to hopeflicker

Re: This is alarming

said by hopeflicker:

said by aciddrink:

said by ninjatutle:

20% of all traffic consist of illegal activity.

90% of all statistics are made up on the spot.

and 50% of users pull numbers out of their ass without posting links to their claims.

IDK, ask Karl Bode , he was the person who posted it. Why don't you question his character?

Ummm, ATT claims this:

AT&T says that as of June, AT&T traffic was about 1/3 Web (non video/audio streams), 1/3 Web video/audio streams, and 1/5 P2P.

so i ask again, do you believe this?
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Again, I will refer you to Mr. Karl Bode if you feel his reporting is inadequate or the integrity of his linked reports are inaccurate.

This is going in circles.....

reply to hopeflicker
That sounds about right to me. But, I'm lost in the convo here, are you saying that P2P = illegal?

EDIT: Question is to ninjatutle

I'm not buying the endless Linux disto downloads, World Of War patches and home movies to grandmother so yes, ILLEGAL material is being passed.

You know very well as with everyone here, what P2P is mainly used for.

EDIT: Reply to Flenginear

Well what about Anime which is around 95 percent of my bittorrent downloads. Do you consider those illegal? Anime companies in the U.S can't touch anything other then the ones they licensed. They are not illegal unless licensed in the u.s thus not making them illegal. Then again each anime fan has his own idea on it.

reply to hopeflicker
I do. I think all the ppl that used p2p on dsl networks changed over to other isp's like comcast, verizon and etc because the speeds. ATT dsl doesn't have speed
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reply to pspcrazy
Actually I believe we have some treaties with other countries protecting each others' copyrights:

»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_pa···treaties

The anime companies just don't have an RIAA running around suing people and spreading the word that there's free stuff on the 'net. Probably to their benefit!

reply to ninjatutle

reply to ninjatutle
P2P = Illegal ??

Yes some of it is, some of it isn't. I bet you also think all Muslims are terrorist, too.

»www.bittorrent.com/
»revision3.com/
»beta.legaltorrents.com/
May Fav »torrentfreak.com/sundance-winner···torrent/
That's a good movie and was released on P2P by the producers.

You say all P2P is Illegal, I just provided proof that P2P is NOT Illegal. Revise your statement to Sharing Copyrighted material VIA P2P is Illegal.

EDIT: You mentioned World of Warcraft being insignificant.
2.5M players in North America.
2.4.0 patch distributed via P2P a week in advance was 256.11MB
That's 91.5TB A DAY

reply to ninjatutle
Not all p2p traffic is illegal. A lot of it is legitimate file sharing. So your assumption is wrong and your numbers are wrong.

reply to ptrowski
Quit insulting everyone's intelligence on this site. Obtaining movies and music illegally is what one does when they fire up their torrent app.

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reply to pspcrazy
See, you are a little misguided there. Anime when produced in japan is internationally copyrighted. And yes, they have pursued methods to put an end to some of the distribution. Media Factory Inc. is well known for their issuing of C&D orders to anime "fansubbers" and Bandai has issued warnings publicly in the past regarding specific title releases.. For the most part, anime fansubs tend to rest in a gray area. The majority of production companies simply choose to overlook the issue for various reasons ranging from lack of resources to fear of alienating their consumer base.

When an anime is licensed in the US, the most notable change in regards to the topic is that the US company who licensed the title locally has the right to file C&D orders and lawsuits against anyone distributing unauthorized releases of their titles online.

It's not about who has their own idea on the matter or not. It's a matter of it's still illegal either way. The only difference is who has the right to pursue the matter legally.

reply to dentman42
DSL vs. Cable is completely subjective to not only your market but your particular street.

reply to ninjatutle

2nd ptrowski

reply to ptrowski
Show some numbers where the majority it not nearly all of P2P traded material is not illegal content?