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ptrowski
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Re: This is alarming

said by ninjatutle:

RTFA

"about 1/3 Web (non video/audio streams), 1/3 Web video/audio streams, and 1/5 P2P."
You RTFA, is says P2P, not illegal activity. But your trolling once again is easily noticed.


ninjatutle
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Quit insulting everyone's intelligence on this site. Obtaining movies and music illegally is what one does when they fire up their torrent app.



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said by ninjatutle:

Quit insulting everyone's intelligence on this site. Obtaining movies and music illegally is what one does when they fire up their torrent app.
Please show me the numbers you used to come up with all of that. Wait, you can't. So please do go troll somewhere else and quit wasting everyone's time here. People inclduing myself have shown multiple applications, uses, and 110% legal uses, but yet you keep with the same mantra everytime P2P is mentioned on the front page.

Go bother some other site, kiddie.


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2nd ptrowski



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Show some numbers where the majority it not nearly all of P2P traded material is not illegal content?



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said by ninjatutle:

Show some numbers where the majority it not nearly all of P2P traded material is not illegal content?
I never said it's not being used for some illegal content, now did I? You are the one who is saying that the 20% constitutes piracy.

Of course it is being used for nefarious purposes. I never doubted that. But you assume that P2P = piracy which is not true.

Hell, even Redi Whip whipped cream can be used in ways it wasn't intended. But I am not going to say all dairy products are evil.


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One question. You say most torrents are illegal? Ok, I'll give you that. The question is, why do you care? I mean, if you're not doing anything illegal, it doesn't affect you? Who are you to say what someone else does with their connection? If you are complaining about the BANDWIDTH they use, well, it's not their fault. They are USING WHAT THEY WERE SOLD. If you have a legitimate grievance, complain to comcrap for selling more than they can provide. Tell comcrap to LOWER THE SPEEDS, that solves everyone problem.

So again, why is piracy such a problem for you. It doesn't affect you in any way. Oh, wait, you're a musician? Guess what, piracy doesn't affect your sales. A pirated copy != sold copy, simple as that.
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said by ninjatutle:

Quit insulting everyone's intelligence on this site. Obtaining movies and music illegally is what one does when they fire up their torrent app.
Translation: Your factual rebuttals and evidence won't sway me from insisting that you're wrong, anyway.
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CHILD PORN WEBSITES!!!!!!!

BAN HTTP..... wait umm yea HTTP = Illegal!!!!!



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Just about 100 percent of P2P file sharing takes place on the Transport Control Protocol (TCP) protocol. You could solve the Internet piracy problem if you got that protocol banned.

In fact, IP addresses are really responsible for this. What do we all need individual IP addresses for, anyway? With no IP addresses, there are no peers. We can all be the client to one big server.

And we really don't need all these duplicate servers, they just take up extra bandwidth and provide us with superfluous choices. We just need one of everything.

Hey, how about an Internet where we just typed what we want, such as "GO TRAVEL" or maybe just a keyword, "TRAVEL," where the Internet's official travel agency took care of us all.

Ah yes, the perfect Internet.


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Children should not be produced because they could turn out to be killers. Rottweilers have no place on this earth because they maul kiddies. People shouldn't live in the middle west due to tornadoes. I could go on all day long until I turn blue.

I love this logic.



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That's not my logic -- I don't support any of those ideas.

The Internet connects people, and people are going to do what people are going to do. They're like people that way.

Trying to use technology to control what people do is simply wrong, and the only reasons to spy on what people do (e.g. using DPI to come up with AT&T's figures) is to try to change it or monetize it somehow.

Managing the ISP doesn't require knowing what programs people are running. AT&T should shut up and ship my bits without inspecting them or interfering with them.
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said by ninjatutle:

Show some numbers where the majority it not nearly all of P2P traded material is not illegal content?
"majority"
"nearly all"
These are keywords you missed on your first post when you suggested that all P2P is illegal. My personal opinion since there is no real data I am saying I WOULD GUESS it's probably around half legal and half illegal data if not a little more illegal than legal. However, attacking the P2P protocol which has serious advantages over other protocols is not the way to fight piracy.


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said by ninjatutle:

Children should not be produced because they could turn out to be killers. Rottweilers have no place on this earth because they maul kiddies. People shouldn't live in the middle west due to tornadoes. I could go on all day long until I turn blue.

I love this logic.
You are the one that came up with that logic when you said all P2P is Illegal.


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Half? And the other half would be legal content like Linux a handful of geeks use? Indy movies everyone watches? Wow patches that a billion people are playing? TV shows people think they have a right to share? Didn't the TV writers go on strike for something recently?

I guess I live in a bubble where I think everyone steals movies on P2P. I was thinking more along of the lines of people obtaining works like:

The Dark Knight
Step Brothers
The X Files: I Want to Believe
Journey to the Center of the Earth
Hancock
Hellboy II: The Golden Army
Wanted

Thanks to all for informing me, albeit it inaccurately of P2P usage.



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said by ninjatutle:

Half? And the other half would be legal content like Linux a handful of geeks use? Indy movies everyone watches? Wow patches that a billion people are playing? TV shows people think they have a right to share? Didn't the TV writers go on strike for something recently?

I guess I live in a bubble where I think everyone steals movies on P2P. I was thinking more along of the lines of people obtaining works like:

The Dark Knight
Step Brothers
The X Files: I Want to Believe
Journey to the Center of the Earth
Hancock
Hellboy II: The Golden Army
Wanted

Thanks to all for informing me, albeit it inaccurately of P2P usage.
Odd, I did not even know these were all available, and you did?
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Well, then there are about 29 million of us "geeks" out there according to this webpage: »i18n.counter.li.org/

Even if this is an estimate, Google said in 2004 that at least 1% of its visitors used Linux, and I have a feeling the linux community has picked up quite a bit since..
»www.google.com/press/zeitgeist/z···n04.html

Just because you live on planet Microsoft does not mean the rest of us do!

Maybe you should take off your shades and try linux, it is quite userfreindly these days, not to say faster and easier to install than windows.
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Personally I spend alot of time on revision3.com

If you think everyone steals movies on P2P then yes you do live in your own private bubble.



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said by ninjatutle:

Half? And the other half would be legal content like Linux a handful of geeks use? Indy movies everyone watches? Wow patches that a billion people are playing? TV shows people think they have a right to share? Didn't the TV writers go on strike for something recently?

I guess I live in a bubble where I think everyone steals movies on P2P. I was thinking more along of the lines of people obtaining works like:

The Dark Knight
Step Brothers
The X Files: I Want to Believe
Journey to the Center of the Earth
Hancock
Hellboy II: The Golden Army
Wanted

Thanks to all for informing me, albeit it inaccurately of P2P usage.
So do you feel it is illegal to record (VCR) an episode of the Simposns and then loan it to your friend?
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said by ptrowski:

said by ninjatutle:

Half? And the other half would be legal content like Linux a handful of geeks use? Indy movies everyone watches? Wow patches that a billion people are playing? TV shows people think they have a right to share? Didn't the TV writers go on strike for something recently?

I guess I live in a bubble where I think everyone steals movies on P2P. I was thinking more along of the lines of people obtaining works like:

The Dark Knight
Step Brothers
The X Files: I Want to Believe
Journey to the Center of the Earth
Hancock
Hellboy II: The Golden Army
Wanted

Thanks to all for informing me, albeit it inaccurately of P2P usage.
Odd, I did not even know these were all available, and you did?

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