way2evil
Premium
join:2007-09-14
Great River, NY | reply to majortom1029
Re: hmm
Yea, they can do whatever they want in a testing facility but when they release 50/5 to the public, guess what, everyone is gonna want it. Then what? |
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ihavercn
@rcn.com
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i have nerither fios nor cablevision or work for either. but i would take fiber over coax to the home any day!
said by majortom1029  :YEah well I still will be able to go anywhere on long island and get wifi. I wont be able to do that on fios. Also how do you know speeds will be better on fios? Your not an employee of cablevision . Unless you have a docsis 3 connection then you cant talk. Also if the rumours are true and they went with cisco , cisco was offering docsis 3 equipment that can allow cable companies to transition over to fttp. So stop with the fios fanboy stuff. Dont make claims unless you can back them up and right now you cant since you dont have cablevision docsis 3.0 tests to back them up. Also fios isnt available everywhere in cablevisions footprint so if cablevision raises its speed before fios is available everywhere fios can get awfully expensive for verizon . |
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BLUNTED 1
join:2003-11-13
Floral Park, NY
 ·Verizon FIOS
 ·Optimum Online
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Thats right leave me alone  Fiber is King 
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Alcohol
Premium
join:2003-05-26
Somerset, NJ
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said by majortom1029 :That doesnt help with your argument that fios is just better. Leave him alone. He's just a FIOS fan boy. You should see him complaining in the Optimum Online forum even though he's switched to FIOS. |
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EG
The wings of love
Premium
join:2006-11-18
Union, NJ
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said by ccna :
that means absolutely nothing. lets see, they can get 100/100, and how many on a node? how many ppl per node will order 100/100? more than one? oh no, cablevision has to increase their backbone to handle that. get real and stop spitting shit out of your ass. fios will always be faster than cablevision because of the simple fact it is ftth and not copper. for some reason i highly doubt that cablevision is going fttp anytime soon, or ever for that matter.
doesn't it terminate in some form of copper ? |
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chef255
join:2004-07-15
Buchanan, NY | reply to majortom1029
Ground control to Major Tom, you've really made the grade, now calm down. |
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majortom1029
join:2006-10-19
Lindenhurst, NY
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hmm so you failed to go to the optonline dslreports speed test page right? So speed test results are not fact?
how am i talking shit with facts?
here
"62.1m/96.7m Cablevision schenkman @ Nesconset, NY, USA "
Also comcast did a test in las vegas and people with comcast docsis 3 have been getting almost full spee dwith their 50/5 packages.
Also if you read what i wrote the narad tech they where going to use used switches at the node and at the tap so users did not matter . OF course you bash me without reading what i write .
The docsis 3 stuff is a different standard but this proves my point that its not the medium its the standard they are using.
So call me names all you want but i would like to see some facts before telling me i am wrong. |
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ccna
@verizon.net
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that means absolutely nothing. lets see, they can get 100/100, and how many on a node? how many ppl per node will order 100/100? more than one? oh no, cablevision has to increase their backbone to handle that. get real and stop spitting shit out of your ass. fios will always be faster than cablevision because of the simple fact it is ftth and not copper. for some reason i highly doubt that cablevision is going fttp anytime soon, or ever for that matter. |
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majortom1029
join:2006-10-19
Lindenhurst, NY
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That doesnt help with your argument that fios is just better.
How do you know which docsis 3 equipment cablevision is using. Cisco has docsis 3 equipment that allows a cable company to upgrade to fttp in the future.
So why is fios still just better then?
Also add in the fact that eventually i will be able to go almost anywhere in cablevisions territory and get free wifi access with my cablevision account hwo would fios still be the better service?
Iwould rather have a service that is a little slower but can be accessed anywhere they service then a service that is faster and can only be accessed at home.
Fios has to come up with something to compete with the wifi access. That is i feel going to be a bis plus for cablevision. |
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BLUNTED 1
join:2003-11-13
Floral Park, NY
·Verizon FIOS
·Optimum Online
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Fiber is the best you can get so until they come out with something better Fiber will always have the advantage and that is a fact.
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Big Pete
@qwest.net
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that's great that they can get it to work in a testing environment, but like I said, I'll believe it when I see it... when its a regular tier that can be purchased from the cable co. Hopefully sooner than later to really get that competition heating up... |
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majortom1029
join:2006-10-19
Lindenhurst, NY
1 edit | reply to Big Pete
OK but it has been tested with narad. Narad doesnt exist anymore but they did get 100/100 speeds cablevision just thought it was too expensive to deploy.
Dont believe me? Go to the optimum online speed test site on dslreports. Look at the top speed. Thats from somebody who was doing narad tests. (narad used switches in diff parts of the coaxial network)
Also comcast did a live speed test in a show in las vegas i think. |
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majortom1029
join:2006-10-19
Lindenhurst, NY
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The moca site says above 850 nothing about over 1ghz.
Also cablevision before narad shut down was getting 100/100 with tv over their coax. ITs just a matter of how everything is done on the medium .
Heck HPNA 3.1 states you can get 320/320 out of coax. So its just a matter of what equipment is used.
Also docsis 3.0 states the max speed you can get is 343 down and /144 up
So like i said its not the coax medium just the spec you are using.
I just wish people would stop with this fiber needs to be installed in order to compete stuff. Until speeds reach the 500/500 spot then cable does not need to upgrade yet.
HEck I would thing the US's backbone would have to be upgraded first. |
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Big Pete
@qwest.net
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Also the hpna 3.1 spec states they can get 320/320 speeds out of coax. So aslong as the docsis spec keeps growing with what other coax specs can get speed wise cablevision wont have to upgrade to fiber.
Specs are just that, specs... They don't mean shit in the real world. I'll believe 100/100 out of cable when I see it. |
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EPS
join:2008-02-13
Hingham, MA | reply to majortom1029
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought the MoCA spec uses frequencies that would be too high to use on a general cable system (above 1GHz)- Verizon can get away with it since it only is used inside the home. |
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majortom1029
join:2006-10-19
Lindenhurst, NY
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so your claims are baseless then. If cable can offer a 100/100 package at a cheaper rate then fios then what does it matter if its fiber or coax?
Also the hpna 3.1 spec states they can get 320/320 speeds out of coax. So aslong as the docsis spec keeps growing with what other coax specs can get speed wise cablevision wont have to upgrade to fiber. |
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majortom1029
join:2006-10-19
Lindenhurst, NY
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Your another uninformed person .Its not the coax cable thats holding them back its the docsis spec. Verizon uses the same coax once they reach the home and verizon itself through the moca spec said coax can handle atleast 270/270 so untill speeds reach that its not the coax thats the problem. |
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BLUNTED 1
join:2003-11-13
Floral Park, NY
·Verizon FIOS
·Optimum Online
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No I don't but I had Boost and a lot of users don't even get those speeds so what makes this any different ? The only thing I know is Fiber is better and faster and I can bet Fios will fire back right after this upgrade.
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majortom1029
join:2006-10-19
Lindenhurst, NY
1 edit | reply to BLUNTED 1
YEah well I still will be able to go anywhere on long island and get wifi. I wont be able to do that on fios.
Also how do you know speeds will be better on fios? Your not an employee of cablevision . Unless you have a docsis 3 connection then you cant talk.
Also if the rumours are true and they went with cisco , cisco was offering docsis 3 equipment that can allow cable companies to transition over to fttp.
So stop with the fios fanboy stuff. Dont make claims unless you can back them up and right now you cant since you dont have cablevision docsis 3.0 tests to back them up.
Also fios isnt available everywhere in cablevisions footprint so if cablevision raises its speed before fios is available everywhere fios can get awfully expensive for verizon . |
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chef255
join:2004-07-15
Buchanan, NY | reply to majortom1029
Just another band-aid to substitute for their lack of fiber. |
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