Re: hmm in http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r20879594 en Tue, 01 Dec 2009 19:41:21 EDT Tue, 01 Dec 2009 19:41:21 EDT Re: hmm http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20883053 way2evil : Yea, they can do whatever they want in a testing facility but when they release 50/5 to the public, guess what, everyone is gonna want it. Then what?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20883053 Fri, 01 Aug 2008 11:00:19 EDT Re: hmm http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20882036 anon : i have nerither fios nor cablevision or work for either. but i would take fiber over coax to the home any day!

said by majortom1029 See Profile :

YEah well I still will be able to go anywhere on long island and get wifi. I wont be able to do that on fios.

Also how do you know speeds will be better on fios? Your not an employee of cablevision . Unless you have a docsis 3 connection then you cant talk.

Also if the rumours are true and they went with cisco , cisco was offering docsis 3 equipment that can allow cable companies to transition over to fttp.

So stop with the fios fanboy stuff. Dont make claims unless you can back them up and right now you cant since you dont have cablevision docsis 3.0 tests to back them up.

Also fios isnt available everywhere in cablevisions footprint so if cablevision raises its speed before fios is available everywhere fios can get awfully expensive for verizon .
]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20882036 Fri, 01 Aug 2008 06:07:53 EDT Re: hmm http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20881957 BLUNTED 1 : Thats right leave me alone :uhh: Fiber is King ;)
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said by majortom1029 See Profile :

That doesnt help with your argument that fios is just better.
Leave him alone. He's just a FIOS fan boy. You should see him complaining in the Optimum Online forum even though he's switched to FIOS. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20881355 Thu, 31 Jul 2008 23:54:02 EDT Re: hmm http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20881181 EG :
said by ccna :

that means absolutely nothing. lets see, they can get 100/100, and how many on a node? how many ppl per node will order 100/100? more than one? oh no, cablevision has to increase their backbone to handle that. get real and stop spitting shit out of your ass. fios will always be faster than cablevision because of the simple fact it is ftth and not copper. for some reason i highly doubt that cablevision is going fttp anytime soon, or ever for that matter.
doesn't it terminate in some form of copper ?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20881181 Thu, 31 Jul 2008 23:12:53 EDT Re: hmm http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20880002 chef255 : Ground control to Major Tom, you've really made the grade, now calm down.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20880002 Thu, 31 Jul 2008 19:20:18 EDT Re: hmm http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20879957 majortom1029 : hmm so you failed to go to the optonline dslreports speed test page right? So speed test results are not fact?
how am i talking shit with facts?

here

"62.1m/96.7m Cablevision schenkman @ Nesconset, NY, USA "

Also comcast did a test in las vegas and people with comcast docsis 3 have been getting almost full spee dwith their 50/5 packages.

Also if you read what i wrote the narad tech they where going to use used switches at the node and at the tap so users did not matter . OF course you bash me without reading what i write .

The docsis 3 stuff is a different standard but this proves my point that its not the medium its the standard they are using.

So call me names all you want but i would like to see some facts before telling me i am wrong.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20879957 Thu, 31 Jul 2008 19:10:51 EDT Re: hmm http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20879857 anon : that means absolutely nothing. lets see, they can get 100/100, and how many on a node? how many ppl per node will order 100/100? more than one? oh no, cablevision has to increase their backbone to handle that. get real and stop spitting shit out of your ass. fios will always be faster than cablevision because of the simple fact it is ftth and not copper. for some reason i highly doubt that cablevision is going fttp anytime soon, or ever for that matter.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20879857 Thu, 31 Jul 2008 18:53:33 EDT Re: hmm http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20879856 majortom1029 : That doesnt help with your argument that fios is just better.

How do you know which docsis 3 equipment cablevision is using. Cisco has docsis 3 equipment that allows a cable company to upgrade to fttp in the future.

So why is fios still just better then?

Also add in the fact that eventually i will be able to go almost anywhere in cablevisions territory and get free wifi access with my cablevision account hwo would fios still be the better service?

Iwould rather have a service that is a little slower but can be accessed anywhere they service then a service that is faster and can only be accessed at home.

Fios has to come up with something to compete with the wifi access. That is i feel going to be a bis plus for cablevision.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20879856 Thu, 31 Jul 2008 18:52:51 EDT Re: hmm http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20879805 BLUNTED 1 : Fiber is the best you can get so until they come out with something better Fiber will always have the advantage and that is a fact.
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Dont believe me? Go to the optimum online speed test site on dslreports. Look at the top speed. Thats from somebody who was doing narad tests. (narad used switches in diff parts of the coaxial network)

Also comcast did a live speed test in a show in las vegas i think. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20879758 Thu, 31 Jul 2008 18:32:12 EDT Re: hmm http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20879747 majortom1029 : The moca site says above 850 nothing about over 1ghz.

Also cablevision before narad shut down was getting 100/100 with tv over their coax. ITs just a matter of how everything is done on the medium .

Heck HPNA 3.1 states you can get 320/320 out of coax. So its just a matter of what equipment is used.

Also docsis 3.0 states the max speed you can get is 343 down and /144 up

So like i said its not the coax medium just the spec you are using.

I just wish people would stop with this fiber needs to be installed in order to compete stuff. Until speeds reach the 500/500 spot then cable does not need to upgrade yet.

HEck I would thing the US's backbone would have to be upgraded first.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20879747 Thu, 31 Jul 2008 18:29:52 EDT Re: hmm http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20879745 anon :
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Also the hpna 3.1 spec states they can get 320/320 speeds out of coax. So aslong as the docsis spec keeps growing with what other coax specs can get speed wise cablevision wont have to upgrade to fiber.


Specs are just that, specs... They don't mean shit in the real world. I'll believe 100/100 out of cable when I see it.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20879745 Thu, 31 Jul 2008 18:29:07 EDT Re: hmm http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20879698 EPS : Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought the MoCA spec uses frequencies that would be too high to use on a general cable system (above 1GHz)- Verizon can get away with it since it only is used inside the home.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20879698 Thu, 31 Jul 2008 18:20:13 EDT Re: hmm http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20879683 majortom1029 : so your claims are baseless then. If cable can offer a 100/100 package at a cheaper rate then fios then what does it matter if its fiber or coax?

Also the hpna 3.1 spec states they can get 320/320 speeds out of coax. So aslong as the docsis spec keeps growing with what other coax specs can get speed wise cablevision wont have to upgrade to fiber. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20879683 Thu, 31 Jul 2008 18:17:35 EDT Re: hmm http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20879651 majortom1029 : Your another uninformed person .Its not the coax cable thats holding them back its the docsis spec. Verizon uses the same coax once they reach the home and verizon itself through the moca spec said coax can handle atleast 270/270 so untill speeds reach that its not the coax thats the problem.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20879651 Thu, 31 Jul 2008 18:11:47 EDT Re: hmm http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20879643 BLUNTED 1 : No I don't but I had Boost and a lot of users don't even get those speeds so what makes this any different ? The only thing I know is Fiber is better and faster and I can bet Fios will fire back right after this upgrade.
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Also how do you know speeds will be better on fios? Your not an employee of cablevision . Unless you have a docsis 3 connection then you cant talk.

Also if the rumours are true and they went with cisco , cisco was offering docsis 3 equipment that can allow cable companies to transition over to fttp.

So stop with the fios fanboy stuff. Dont make claims unless you can back them up and right now you cant since you dont have cablevision docsis 3.0 tests to back them up.

Also fios isnt available everywhere in cablevisions footprint so if cablevision raises its speed before fios is available everywhere fios can get awfully expensive for verizon .]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20879637 Thu, 31 Jul 2008 18:08:18 EDT Re: hmm http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20879597 chef255 : Just another band-aid to substitute for their lack of fiber.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20879597 Thu, 31 Jul 2008 18:00:47 EDT Re: hmm http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20879594 BLUNTED 1 : Fios is still going to be the better service because it is still faster and has better ping times on Fiber and still has way more bandwidth supplied to less homes than a node on cablevision does.
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Cablevision area wifi and docsis 3.0?

Glad i live in a cablevision serviced area.

Can i ask a serious question. IF cablevision can offer these service why cant the other cable companies offer them? IS cablevisions network more equiped to handle it? ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20879429 Thu, 31 Jul 2008 17:29:09 EDT