sawman
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join:2002-04-25
BC KS | reply to mityfowl
Re: Refrigerator recommendations?
Good point. |
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mityfowl
join:2000-11-06
Dallas, TX | reply to sawman
Actually I was going to say that 2 $3.00 CFL's would save you over a $100 during their lifespan.
Now that's an investment. |
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sawman
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join:2002-04-25
BC KS
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My comparison was to show the range in efficiency, I should have spent more time looking for two apples to compare.
The OP's original unit lasted 40 years. The frig in our kitchen was made in Sept 1990. I just extended the life of an old range with a $30 heating element. Interesting that $100 is meaningless to you. CFL light bulbs and driving slower probably aren't worth the savings to you and the environment either, eh? |
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mityfowl
join:2000-11-06
Dallas, TX
1 edit | reply to sawman
My example was for a price difference of about $300 and it wasn't apples to apples.
Now you also have to take into account the life span of a product. In this case 8-14 years. I think 8 years to get even for a $100 is meaningless in this example. »repair2000.com/lifespan.html Ya, I usually get a longer life out of my products too but this is what people think.
Basically I'm just saying it takes a long time to make up a big price difference just for some energy efficiency.
Edit. Here's a little different take on appliance life span that I put more stock in: »www.theinspector-home.com/life.html |
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sawman
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join:2002-04-25
BC KS | reply to mityfowl
I'm not counting on my cost of electricity staying the same in perpetuity. If one frig costs a hundred more but is that much more efficient the difference is paid in eight years or less and after that the savings are gravy. |
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mityfowl
join:2000-11-06
Dallas, TX
1 edit | reply to sawman
Let say you pay $.133/kWh. 90kwh/year difference equals about $12/year so I wouldn't get to hung up on that number.
Don't get me wrong, I thinks important to save as much energy as possible but sometimes the payback is negligable or non existant. |
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sawman
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BC KS
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1 edit | reply to sjprep06
Seriously look at the EnergyGuide. I just did a little comparison and there was a 14.8 cu ft for $450 and it used 479kWh/year while a 18.9 cu ft for $799 used only 393kWh/year. Differences like this are present in identically sized units too. The more efficient cost a little more but you'll make that up in savings quickly.
edit: The blue EnergyStar emblem shows it's better than most in it's class. |
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sjprep06
join:2008-04-01
Philadelphia, PA
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said by Vathral  :said by rawgerz :I have to ask, do you know off hand what your power bill was (& $ per KWH) with that old thing? Yeah. Wondering the same thing. Such old equipment can't be as energy efficient as things are now  No idea what the typical usage and charge was for it as I don't handle the bills. I'll ask her and see if she has a bill laying around somewhere.
said by Summit :I work for Whirlpool Corp. Kenmore is made by us for Sears. Thanks for that info. It seems like Sears charges a lot for just a badge and cosmetic changes. Also, their listings are the most expensive so far out of all the places I've checked.
So it looks like I'll be buying something Made by Whirlpool. So far, most of the recs have been for Whirlpool/Kenmores, Consumer Reports like Whirlpool/Kenmores and I haven't seen any reason why I shouldn't buy one... |
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Summit
join:2005-03-14
Marion, OH | reply to CylonRed
I work for Whirlpool Corp. Kenmore is made by us for Sears. |
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CylonRed
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join:2000-07-06
Bloom County | reply to sjprep06
Kenmoers are a Sears brand - no one else can sell them. Kenmoers are rebadged appliances from other manufacturers. |
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sjprep06
join:2008-04-01
Philadelphia, PA
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said by robbin :said by sjprep06 :Thanks for the replies so far. It seems that both Home Depot and Best Buy don't carry Kenmores . Any reviews on GEs,Frigidaires or Whirlpools? You should have stated up front that you were only interested in buying from Home Depot or Best Buy. Sears does sell GEs, Frigidaires and Whirlpools. One of them may even be labeled as Kenmore. Point being -- if you go to Sears and ask, they will tell you who made the Kenmore. If you have some obsession not to buy from them that's OK -- but Sears is a good place to buy appliances -- whether they are labeled as Kenmore or the actual brand. The only reason that I said HD and BB is because they were the first two places to pop up in my mind. I haven't been to Sears in years. I probably won't go to BB now because their selection seems small and a bit over-priced. |
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robbin
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join:2000-09-21
Leander, TX
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said by sjprep06 :Thanks for the replies so far. It seems that both Home Depot and Best Buy don't carry Kenmores . Any reviews on GEs,Frigidaires or Whirlpools? You should have stated up front that you were only interested in buying from Home Depot or Best Buy. Sears does sell GEs, Frigidaires and Whirlpools. One of them may even be labeled as Kenmore.
Point being -- if you go to Sears and ask, they will tell you who made the Kenmore. If you have some obsession not to buy from them that's OK -- but Sears is a good place to buy appliances -- whether they are labeled as Kenmore or the actual brand. |
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sjprep06
join:2008-04-01
Philadelphia, PA
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Thanks for the replies so far. It seems that both Home Depot and Best Buy don't carry Kenmores . Any reviews on GEs,Frigidaires or Whirlpools? Jahntassa mentioned Roper models but I haven't seen one in those stores.
I know we'll most likely be buying a top freezer since my mom doesn't like side-by-sides. And even an ice maker function is something we probably won't use because of where the fridge will be located (on the other side of the kitchen supply line pipes). |
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