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 ·Armstrong Zoom ..
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Re: Novel idea I can forsee resistance as well, in a way. I tried to set up a mesh network in my neighborhood. I got business owners to allow me to put radio equipment up and everything. Had the mesh network halfway running and was able to offer 5 megs symetric to homes.
Well, what happened is the local crappy analog TV station fought it, the borough fought it, and many people and businesses fought it. Why? Because most people already paid a fee to the local coop (the cable company) and felt they should be doing it, which they never will.
This was a few months ago and I gave up because of money. I technically had it up and running but people were suing, it was nuts. I was really just trying to start up a business that was not going to make tons in this small community but bring nice broadband and phone to the area.
So I lost a ton of money on equipment, I have a fiber connection to my home intended for the customers (really unused, I just go to BBR and email mostly), and the only options are 3Mbps/768k Verizon or 512/128k cable. And now people are complaining to ME!
What needs to happen, and I think is a better idea, is the local government needs to run fiber to every home from a building, or even several buildings, and each strand is offered up to competing providers. Just like my garbage, water, sewer, and roads... let the government provide the pipe and then the customer pick the person who connects to the strand.
I know, been tried, whatever, but it is the only way I think it can work.
Do you think the people that pave my roads are the local government? Nope, it is a contractor after people bid on it.
Sewer, bids. Water, well that is the borough. Garbage, bids.
The government picks up where corporate entities fail because of lack of profit. Well, yes, we get hit with taxes over time but if you put a ten year ROI on it, spread it out on taxes, you would have one happy town.
My thoughts. Yes, I would pay for the fiber (did) but 60% will not or cannot. |
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 telcolackey5The Truth? You can't handle the truth
join:2007-04-06
Death Valley, CA | Business economics will be enough resistance to impact this effort. No external involvement will be necessary |
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 King PDon't blame me. I voted for Ron PaulPremium
join:2004-11-17
Franklin, TN | reply to keyboard5684
It's too bad that us taxpayers already paid the telcos to run fiber to our homes. 12 years ago! |
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·Comcast
1 edit | reply to keyboard5684
Lets see you tried to go the private route and provide a service but many in the community was not buying in. Let put it in another way, if it isn't broke don't fix it. They are happy what the got. Now you want government to force it down their throats because you failed. Ironic enough is the government may be the problem with franchising. If you could not do it what in hell do you thing government can do a better job. I got news for you, you come across to me as arrogant. Some people are happy what they got, or "I am already paying for what I got why do I need you" attitude. perhaps you would saw this if you did better premarket research.
Secondly there seem to be a local attachment to the cable company. Somebody known in the community? Perhaps its time you moved on. |
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join:2001-02-26
CWCville USA | said by Scatcatpdx:I got news for you, you are an arrogant holier than thou troublemaker. It really isnt necessary to call him names, I'm sure he could think of all sorts of things to call a furry. |
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·Comcast
| I had worst in mind, his post comes across to me as very arrogant like I know what better for the community. His brodband business failed so his solution is to get big government to ram it down everybody throat. It like same say I started a furry themed restaurant that fails, therefore the only solution is government owned cafeterias.
I edited that statement leaving in the arrogant. |
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·Comcast
| Guess reading what the person wrote is a bad thing, you should try it some time.
The guy stated he got sued out of business. Not that he failed.
Geez , reading is fundamental.
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JBear
join:2005-02-24
canada | yes reading is fundamental. The guy actually has a good plan. He just got sued because the cable company was taking their money and not doing the job he was doing. And of course he isn't going to do it for free.
"let the government provide the pipe and then the customer pick the person who connects to the strand."
Other than government inefficiency, as opposed to greedy corporations, why wouldn't this be a good plan? |
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·Armstrong Zoom ..
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I live in the community and was trying to do a service. People complain, still even after the venture, about the fact there is not better broadband services.
I never failed, I just did not want to lose my house over it. I do not have as much money as Verizon or the cable company. Seems to me if they would have left me alone I would have succeeded.
I fail to understand how this is arrogant? Really is was two different things, one an action I was taking to provide better services and two, an opinion on how I think it could/should be done.
Again, I live in this community and they express there opinion on what they want very vocally. Failure to me would be no one buying my service, that is not the case. The problem was the borough, cable company, and Verizon would not allow me to succeed, or even try. A business failing is when no one wants to buy their service. In my case big duopolies seemed to have forced me out using legal methods. I do not have a team of lawyers and they know that.
Your analogies do not compare at all to the situation.
The only part I consider arrogant is that I said *uck it, if they want to fight me on it then I will just keep my 45meg connection and not do it. No loss on my end, just the community loses by not getting good service. In 5 years the community will still be stuck with 3megs and their 768 upload.
As far as the business, it still operates to serve business customers with workarounds, no residential. Because I cannot hang fiber on poles I cannot get the capacity I need for all those customers but using radio mesh I can get enough to serve the businesses.
I really do not know why I took the time to write this. In real life I would just punch you for your lack of understanding, we would clearly have a reason to fight. You insulted me and the community I live in. Visit us sometime, we will be waiting for you. |
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·Comcast
| said by keyboard5684:I live in the community and was trying to do a service. People complain, still even after the venture, about the fact there is not better broadband services. I never failed, I just did not want to lose my house over it. I do not have as much money as Verizon or the cable company. Seems to me if they would have left me alone I would have succeeded. If it was the city I would stand aside you but according to your own words.
said by keyboard5684:Well, what happened is the local crappy analog TV station fought it, the borough fought it, and many people and businesses fought it. Why? Because most people already paid a fee to the local coop (the cable company) and felt they should be doing it, which they never will. It seems your problem is more than just the city but many your community. Perhaps I was wrong arrogant is not word Messianic Complex is. "I" had this great idea now how dare they "rejected me".
I still stand that going to government provided service is worst, you could be happy just providing yourself an alternative and everybody is happy.
said by keyboard5684:"In 5 years the community will still be stuck with 3megs and their 768 upload. well adds a little more to this story Broadband is available I assume, have it occurred to you that people are happy what they have. My mother in the city will not upgrade from dial up and the only reason I stick with 6mgeg cable is Comcast's cost with basic cable is still less than Verizon DSL, IF Comcast jack up the price, I will dump Comcast for 3meg 768 upload in a heartbeat because I really do not need the speed.
This makes my point about government. It seem you can get people excited for bigger toys so get the government and we the tax payers to ram it down their throats.
said by keyboard5684:As far as the business, it still operates to serve business customers with workarounds, no residential. Because I cannot hang fiber on poles I cannot get the capacity I need for all those customers but using radio mesh I can get enough to serve the businesses. I assume the city and county prohibits you, if this is the issue, it is why I am against franchising laws. If you build it there should be way to grant an easement to lay you own fiber.
said by keyboard5684:I really do not know why I took the time to write this. In real life I would just punch you for your lack of understanding, we would clearly have a reason to fight. You insulted me and the community I live in. Visit us sometime, we will be waiting for you. Do not threaten me I will take legal action. I sad nothing about your town, but again it proves my point about Messianic complex if you can win by debate turn to intimidation and violence. Is this why your opponents turned to the courts? You intimidation left no other choice?
We agree to disagree we are done with this conversion.
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Re: Novel idea Glass houses buddy...YOU come across as arrogant. Oh...spell check, its a beautiful thing (you're on your own with the bad grammar) |
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