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dave
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Re: PlaceboAV - any good?

said by Sparrow:

There were jokes, but there was also a great deal more intelligence than is floating around here now.
Apparently you're right - the intelligence level has now sunk so low that people can't tell that an obvious joke is a joke.

As for overtly labelling a joke 'a joke' - nope, I'm not going to do that. It's obvious in the joke itself. A sure way to lower the intelligence level of the membership is to start assuming that the membership isn't intelligent enough to understand what I mean.

As to whether my original posting was off-topic; well, no, I don't think it was off-topic, any more than I think that editorial cartoons in newspapers have nothing to do with the current news. In both cases, a serious point is wrapped up in a joke. At the risk of stating the blindingly obvious: I agree with the doxdesk guy's opinion of most anti-virus products. And you could have read his opinion more directly if you'd only scrolled up a little from the "PlaceboAV" part.

Lastly, what do you suppose the word "placebo" means?


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said by dave:

said by Sparrow:

There were jokes, but there was also a great deal more intelligence than is floating around here now.
Apparently you're right - the intelligence level has now sunk so low that people can't tell that an obvious joke is a joke.

As for overtly labelling a joke 'a joke' - nope, I'm not going to do that. It's obvious in the joke itself. A sure way to lower the intelligence level of the membership is to start assuming that the membership isn't intelligent enough to understand what I mean.

As to whether my original posting was off-topic; well, no, I don't think it was off-topic, any more than I think that editorial cartoons in newspapers have nothing to do with the current news. In both cases, a serious point is wrapped up in a joke. At the risk of stating the blindingly obvious: I agree with the doxdesk guy's opinion of most anti-virus products. And you could have read his opinion more directly if you'd only scrolled up a little from the "PlaceboAV" part.

Lastly, what do you suppose the word "placebo" means?
Dave, I'm not going to argue with you, and yes, I do understand the word "placebo", but my concern for newbies remains. No, nothing will happen, but I still think this thread should have been marked [OT].

In 2005, Wildcatboy See Profile would have been on this like a fly on s*it...

Sorry, my opinion remains - this forum ain't what it used to be.
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reply to Cudni
I hear they're working on Placebo OS. Their mission statement reads. "Lets not, but say we did!"



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said by Sparrow:

In 2005, Wildcatboy See Profile would have been on this like a fly on s*it...
I don't think Wildcatboy will be around until a bit later.

But I will agree with one thing.
When he reads this thread, he'll hardly believe his eyes.

I know I don't.
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said by dave:

As for overtly labelling a joke 'a joke' - nope, I'm not going to do that.
Good, because that would obscure a point that has inadvertently been made by followup posts ---- people are easy to fool. And if that's not a security issue then nothing is. Critical reading and understanding are important weapon against that weaknesss.

BTW, Doxdesk also makes condoms.
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said by tempnexus:

You should really try ZORBIES they can absorb 20 times it's weight and it's a perfect cleaning product.....(actually my friend fell for it, he bought the darn thing...it's nothing more then a shammy cloth and it fell apart after one use.)
Zorbeez!

»www.asseenontv.com/prod-pages/zo···402.html

HI, BILLY MAYS HERE FOR ZORBEEZ!

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reply to Sparrow

said by Sparrow:

Dave, I'm not going to argue with you, and yes, I do understand the word "placebo", but my concern for newbies remains. No, nothing will happen, but I still think this thread should have been marked [OT].

In 2005, Wildcatboy See Profile would have been on this like a fly on s*it...

Sorry, my opinion remains - this forum ain't what it used to be.
It's mostly lilhurricane See Profile now. You are correct that this would have been all over very fast a couple of years ago.

I'm glad you injected some sanity into this thread. Not only newbies may take this seriously but there were some regulars here who appeared to take it seriously/be confused. It should have been labeled OT as you observed. You haven't been here much in a while or you would know that this sort of thing is ok here now....this is not the first one.
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said by fatness:

said by dave:

As for overtly labelling a joke 'a joke' - nope, I'm not going to do that.
Good, because that would obscure a point that has inadvertently been made by followup posts ---- people are easy to fool. And if that's not a security issue then nothing is. Critical reading and understanding are important weapon against that weaknesss.

BTW, Doxdesk also makes condoms.
fatness See Profile,

This forum is to help, and that is what we used to do here, not "test" a newbie's tech or reading skills. When someone is infected, a newbie and scared, they don't read, they continue with old habits and "click". I did not even respond to this until I had time to read the entire thread, and if I'm a little pissed, it's because I expect more from this forum than posting jokes at the risk of hurting a newbie.
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Sparrow
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reply to Mele20

said by Mele20:

said by Sparrow:

Dave, I'm not going to argue with you, and yes, I do understand the word "placebo", but my concern for newbies remains. No, nothing will happen, but I still think this thread should have been marked [OT].

In 2005, Wildcatboy See Profile would have been on this like a fly on s*it...

Sorry, my opinion remains - this forum ain't what it used to be.
It's mostly lilhurricane See Profile now. You are correct that this would have been all over very fast a couple of years ago.

I'm glad you injected some sanity into this thread. Not only newbies may take this seriously but there were some regulars here who appeared to take it seriously/be confused. It should have been labeled OT as you observed. You haven't been here much in a while or you would know that this sort of thing is ok here now....this is not the first one.
I've been here, Mele, I have found no reason to sign in anymore and lurk quietly in the shadows.

Apparently, threads like this are a thing of the past:

Edit to add (for those who don't like to read):
»Re: How would you improve the Security forum?


»How would you improve the Security forum?
»More RPC/TFTP malware, this time local
»IE 6 SP1 Security Zone settings FAQ
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reply to Sparrow

said by Sparrow:

said by fatness:

said by dave:

As for overtly labelling a joke 'a joke' - nope, I'm not going to do that.
Good, because that would obscure a point that has inadvertently been made by followup posts ---- people are easy to fool. And if that's not a security issue then nothing is. Critical reading and understanding are important weapon against that weaknesss.

BTW, Doxdesk also makes condoms.
fatness See Profile,

This forum is to help, and that is what we used to do here, not "test" a newbie's tech or reading skills.
Looking at the thread, it is not the reading skills of newbies that seemed to fail.
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Sparrow
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said by fatness:

Looking at the thread, it is not the reading skills of newbies that seemed to fail.
Well, better I sign out and stay out in that case. I've never known you to be sarcastic when a user at BBR was trying to make a legitimate point, but obviously you've joined the crowd, sorry to say.

Ciao.
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reply to Mele20

said by Mele20:

said by Sparrow:

In 2005, Wildcatboy See Profile would have been on this like a fly on s*it...
It's mostly lilhurricane See Profile now.
No, I don't think I would have and no, it's still only me. I was reading this thread last night and I agree with fatness. It's a good Security related thread. There's a lesson to be learned from this thread. If you haven't learned it, try harder.
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reply to dave
Anyone have a link for Doxdesk refunds?



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reply to dave

said by dave:

Apparently you're right - the intelligence level has now sunk so low that people can't tell that an obvious joke is a joke.
said by dave:

Lastly, what do you suppose the word "placebo" means?
Agreed, it was a joke and a good one at that. It had serious undertones and even went as far to include an exe( it is a harmless exe as long as YOU DON'T TAKE IT SERIOUSLY and make it your sole antivirus protection!), but still came off as funny. C'mon guys, just laugh. We all need a tension breaker sometimes.

Perhaps the 2nd quote is the first thing everyone should have noticed...

btw, I may not believe in the products he is bashing very much, but there are many other proactive things to do to protect yourself from viruses. They should NOT be overlooked.

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said by fatness:

Good, because that would obscure a point that has inadvertently been made by followup posts ---- people are easy to fool. And if that's not a security issue then nothing is. Critical reading and understanding are important weapon against that weaknesss.
Yes, I agree. If you're fooled by something that is clearly intended as a fake, how the heck can you expect to identify a scam when you see one? The scam won't be nearly as obvious as the joke.

I think it's time for adding mandatory checks on 'plausibility detectors' to the annual Internet-user licence renewal requirements.

dave
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reply to Sparrow

said by Sparrow:

Yes, I read it, but apparently some people are not and funny or otherwise, who is responsible for those who trust without looking like this long time member?

»Re: What is your protection
Uh, that 'long-time member' was making a joke.

said by long time member :

Now I am going to have to redownload the internet, install antivirus in my modem and reinstall AOL on my motherboard.


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reply to dave
Everyone can quit worrying. My installation of PlaceboAV Pro autoupdated and then removed itself this morning - Har.



Oleg
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reply to dave
Does anyone have any proof it really works?



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said by Oleg:

Does anyone have any proof it really works?
Oleg...please do me a tremendous favor. (If in fact you're serious).

Read the entire thread again, and pay very close attention.
Please, for the sake of all humanity, I'm begging you.
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SomeFool

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reply to Oleg
Proof? Isn't it like asking: Does anyone have proof that Windows really works? Have faith brother.

Yes, by all means. Oh the humanity of it all.

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