 antwanpBeyond FM, Beyond AM, XM Satellite RadioPremium
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1 edit | Why a Law? Why does this need to be a federal law? Couldn't the individual Airlines just ban cell phone usage as they see fit, if it's even a problem? Seems like Europe and Asia don't really care.
This is just wasteful Gov't spending! I hope this Bill does not pass! Where's the damn telecom lobby when you actually need them.. lol.
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1 edit | said by antwanp:Why does this need to be a federal law? I agree. It shouldn't have to be a law.
said by antwanp:Couldn't the individual Airlines just ban cell phone usage as they see fit Again I agree. BUT, we all know the EFF, the ACLU, and every other group that cares more about a few individuals rather than the public at large would be suing the airlines and petitioning the FCC to force the airlines to allow cellphones in flight. So a law may be the only way to do this.
said by antwanp: I hope this Bill does not pass! I hope it passes just to stop the annoying people who would talk non-stop during a flight.
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said by Linklist:BUT, we all know the EFF, the ACLU, and every other group that cares more about a few individuals rather than the public at large would be suing the airlines and petitioning the FCC to force the airlines to allow cellphones in flight. LOL, right-wingers just can't resist taking a swing at the EFF and ACLU.
FYI, the EFF and ACLU exist because corporations and our government have a long history of trampling on people's rights. For example, years ago if a black guy was driving thru a white neighborhood, the cops would pull him over and question him. If a crime had been committed recently in the neighborhood, the cops would probably haul him in for questioning. Often, the innocent were wrongly convicted. If not for the ACLU, that scenario would occur more frequently than it does today. |
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said by Linklist:I hope it passes just to stop the annoying people who would talk non-stop during a flight. It clearly violates the 1st Amendment. There is no public safety issue involved. The proof is that internet access and text messaging would be allowed. Congress is trying to regulate speech and they are prohibited from doing so (though that has never stopped them before **cough cough ** McCain/Feingold **cough cough**).
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KearnstdElf WizardPremium
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Mullica Hill, NJ | reply to antwanp
a law is needed because without it people would talk anyway. and besides nobody has anything so important they cant check missed calls after they land.
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said by Linklist:BUT, we all know the EFF, the ACLU, and every other group that cares more about a few individuals rather than the public at large would be suing the airlines and petitioning the FCC to force the airlines to allow cellphones in flight And you think the law would prevent the EFF and ACLU from suing? You do realize that a law banning the using of cell phones for reasons other than possible avionic equipment intereference actually DOES run afoul of the first Amendment, no?
Contrary to what you have said, the government enacting a law that bans cell phone usage on planes actually would be THE catalyst for a lawsuit, not the other way around.
And before anyone mentions laws banning cell phone usage in cars, the public safety considerations and mountains of data on the effect of cell phone usage in vehicles is why those laws probably won't get struck down.
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What if the cell phone call is business related?
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KearnstdElf WizardPremium
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Mullica Hill, NJ | reply to antwanp
they wait today until they land, what shouldnt they continue to wait. and as openbox said. Voicemail
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 fireflierCoffee. . .Need CoffeePremium
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I'm not sure I'd consider cell phone use on a plane to be a civil liberty issue, or constitutional right such that prohibition of its use would be a violation of any guaranteed freedoms. I don't think the ACLU or EFF would either.
We are at least in agreement in hoping for something that will keep people from talking constantly on the damn things non-stop.
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some peopole want everything from the government.
why dont you just tell the yapper on his cell phone to hang up!!!
cell phones are the future of all telecom
i will use my cell phone when i want where i want.
One more thing .. people that are being loud on the cell phone just need to be taped on the shoulder and told to please be quieter.
Why not try this? |
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Tulsa, OK | reply to Jim Gurd
said by Jim Gurd:said by Linklist:I hope it passes just to stop the annoying people who would talk non-stop during a flight. It clearly violates the 1st Amendment. There is no public safety issue involved. The proof is that internet access and text messaging would be allowed. Congress is trying to regulate speech and they are prohibited from doing so (though that has never stopped them before **cough cough ** McCain/Feingold **cough cough**). Internet access is only for surfing and email. You won't be able to stream(YouTube) or use software such as Skype. |
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KearnstdElf WizardPremium
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Mullica Hill, NJ | reply to antwanp
and being unable to use the phone during a flight or movie is just so harmful. the way things are going these days with people and their phones im about ready to order a cell jammer off the net and power it up when the ads and previews finish at a movie. and keep it nice and hidden making people wonder why their phone aint working.
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said by seant169:some peopole want everything from the government. why dont you just tell the yapper on his cell phone to hang up!!! cell phones are the future of all telecom i will use my cell phone when i want where i want. One more thing .. people that are being loud on the cell phone just need to be taped on the shoulder and told to please be quieter. Why not try this? That's what we need....more confrontation and fights breaking out. And with your attitude of "use my cell phone when I want and where I want" you would be one of the first to tell someone FU. I am glad I don't run into many "me first" people like you very much. |
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said by antwanp:Why does this need to be a federal law? Couldn't the individual Airlines just ban cell phone usage as they see fit, if it's even a problem? Seems like Europe and Asia don't really care. This is just wasteful Gov't spending! I hope this Bill does not pass! Where's the damn telecom lobby when you actually need them.. lol. I bet the airlines are praying this law passes. Why? Because then they can say, "Sorry, but it's the law." That way the airlines don't have to take the blame for enforcing something they wanted to do. If the ACLU wants to fight the law, let them fight the government and not the airlines. Cheaper that way.
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I'm with you, but your avatar kinda makes me think you dislike a lot of laws. |
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KearnstdElf WizardPremium
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Mullica Hill, NJ | reply to antwanp
lets say this law doesnt pass, could anything prevent airlines from banning phones in flight on their own? kinda like the no smoking section in a diner before the smoking bans.
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I would buy that if the ACLU didn't exhibit it's own agenda. They don't just fight for civil rights.. they also use people to push political agendas too.. that severely diminishes their validity as neutral.
Further.. I don't think the ACLU is a savior.. there are other resources and good honest attorneys that do work on the side of the people.. |
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fiberguyMy views are my own.Premium
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kudos:3 | reply to Majestik
That is only on SOME airline services.. not all. |
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