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Re: PlaceboAV - any good? in Security http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r20890846 en Sun, 29 Nov 2009 23:40:11 EDT Sun, 29 Nov 2009 23:40:11 EDT It was inevitable... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20921954 anon : Malware writers have jumped on the PAV bandwagon!

Computer users in SoCal are currently battling against an outbreak of Win32/Mac.Placebo.BirdFlu.419 virus.

The cross-platform virus infects Windows and Mac computers, and attaches itself to every sent email.

A Department of Homeland Security spokesman said the source of the outbreak was traced to a batch of Bird Flu vaccine delivered to the San Diego Zoo yesterday, and that Nigerian terrorist group OMIGCYD (Oyinbo Man I Go Chop Your Dollar) is believed to have tampered with the vaccine.

The USS Kittyhawk has taken up a position just outside the three mile limit near the Nigerian port of Lagos.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20921954 Fri, 08 Aug 2008 20:08:23 EDT Re: It was a great product until ... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20921384 EGeezer : Apparently Service Pack 3 is available and auto-updated. 626 MB download. It silently installed Google Desktop, Yahoo toolbar, Google Checkout, MSN Explorer, Open Office, Adobe Reader, Flash Player, Silverlight, Safari, AOL 10.0., Smiley Central and trial versions of Norton 360 and McAfee Suite.

PAV is in limited mode due to the situations you mentioned, but the other stuff is running fat and happy, downloading updates, installing more "partnerware" and adding dozens of services and tray icons at startup.

When I called Mauritania, I was asked to check if my computer was turned on. I answered "yes" and was referred to level 2 in Uzbekistan. Level 2 told me to remove my router/firewall and shut down my Windows firewall, then turn off my cable modem, unplug my monitor, keyboard and the power supply plug to the primary HDD. When the system blue screened, they said it was a Microsoft problem.
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"PlaceboAV" then enters "Limited Placebo Mode", in which it installs randomly one of several Major AV Trial Softwares on your system.

Because you have an "OEM Release" of PlaceboAV, you cannot Activate using the Internet, but must use a non-Toll-Free number to do so. You provide a 25-digit-hexadecimal number from the Activation screen to the operator, and manually enter the 32-digit-PID to Activate your PlaceboAV.

The phone number for USA Customers is in Mauritania, (which due to a military coup) is likely not answering at the moment. As a result, I entered "Limited Placebo Mode", with Norton Antivirus 2004 Trial Version installed without asking.
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20920403 Fri, 08 Aug 2008 15:10:30 EDT It was a great product until ... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20919861 EGeezer : Now I'm getting angry.

PlaceboAV just updated and now I have a service called "PlaceboAVGenuineAdvantage" sucking up 98% of my CPU and 516 MB memory and around 150,000 page faults per minute. I emailed their support and they replied that the service is a feature designed to enhance my user experience by ensuring that I have a genuine copy of PlaceboAV.

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said by SAFFR0N :

@Dave,

As you know, I sent $80,000 for 100,000 shares to the PlaceboAV parent company in Nigeria last week.

I just received an email offer of another 50,000 shares in return for $30,000 which is urgently needed to vaccinate the CEO's private herd of Blue Wildebeeste against Asian Avian Influenza ("Bird Flu").

You're getting in on the ground floor of African Bioengineering. You should be grateful.

Hang on to those shares. In 5 years, you'll be able to sell them, and buy maybe a quart of petrol for your auto.
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Nitecruzr Dot Net]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20918786 Fri, 08 Aug 2008 10:09:19 EDT Re: PlaceboAV - any good? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20918279 anon : @Dave,

As you know, I sent $80,000 for 100,000 shares to the PlaceboAV parent company in Nigeria last week.

I just received an email offer of another 50,000 shares in return for $30,000 which is urgently needed to vaccinate the CEO's private herd of Blue Wildebeeste against Asian Avian Influenza ("Bird Flu").

Do you think I'm being scammed ?

:)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20918279 Fri, 08 Aug 2008 08:10:37 EDT Re: PlaceboAV - any good? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20915374 cacroll :

said by norky

:

the internet is serious business.

The horseshit here is seriously deep. :o :o :o
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MS-MVP 2005-2008 [Windows - Desktop Experience]
Nitecruzr Dot Net]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20915374 Thu, 07 Aug 2008 16:29:59 EDT Re: PlaceboAV - any good? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20915145 AB :

said by norky

:

the internet is serious business.

So is comedy.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20915145 Thu, 07 Aug 2008 15:53:11 EDT Re: PlaceboAV - any good? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20915117 norky : the internet is serious business.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20915117 Thu, 07 Aug 2008 15:47:54 EDT Re: PlaceboAV - any good? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20914497 jabarnut : Congrats, Oleg!

You've come a long way my friend. ;)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20914497 Thu, 07 Aug 2008 14:03:59 EDT Re: PlaceboAV - any good? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20914328 Oleg :

said by cacroll

said by Oleg

:

I got my paid version for $15 now i am safe

No, no. That sounds like the gray market version. Does yours have a license sticker with multii-colour hologram image? Don't go buying pirated copies of placeboware. :o :o :o

Yes they have send me a floppy with multii-colour hologram image :-)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20914328 Thu, 07 Aug 2008 13:34:02 EDT Re: PlaceboAV - any good? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20914202 cacroll :

said by Oleg

:

I got my paid version for $15 now i am safe

No, no. That sounds like the gray market version. Does yours have a license sticker with multii-colour hologram image? Don't go buying pirated copies of placeboware. :o :o :o
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MS-MVP 2005-2008 [Windows - Desktop Experience]
Nitecruzr Dot Net]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20914202 Thu, 07 Aug 2008 13:11:42 EDT Re: PlaceboAV - any good? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20913950 Oleg : I got my paid version for $15 now i am safe :D]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20913950 Thu, 07 Aug 2008 12:31:46 EDT Re: PlaceboAV - any good? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20904199 kcazzie :

said by MarkAW

:

[att=1]
All one needs to see to download this great little program.

I just paid $29.95 for it...Best software I ever paid for... Now the Bit Torrent crowd will be D/ling it for free,,, ;) ... ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20904199 Tue, 05 Aug 2008 17:25:42 EDT Re: PlaceboAV - any good? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20902118 rcdailey : What about all the people who installed Apple Safari because they clicked without reading and did not uncheck one little box? They might also be found to have the same syndrome.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20902118 Tue, 05 Aug 2008 10:49:15 EDT Re: PlaceboAV - any good? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20901002 anon : Ah, did I hurt someone's feelings? Tsk, tsk!
Sleep tight, guys, I know I will.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20901002 Tue, 05 Aug 2008 01:21:04 EDT Re: PlaceboAV - any good? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20900766 anon : P.S. "PlaceboAV" is vaguely reminiscent of Rodzilla's "PoopScan".

:)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20900766 Mon, 04 Aug 2008 23:47:39 EDT Re: PlaceboAV - any good? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20900722 anon :

said by rambunctiousdad :

"419 Software"? ROFLMAO!

I thought "419" and "Nigeria" would have waved red flags at most people. Obviously I gave them too many intelligence credits.

said by rambunctiousdad :

Does anyone remember Rodzilla's "CLICK HERE TO INFECT YOUR PC" button?

If some of the posters in this thread were around 15 years ago they would have clicked on it for sure. :D

I didn't see the original prank, but I've heard the story. The fact that more than 4,000 web surfers actually pushed the button indicates a sudden outbreak of mass brain death.

:)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20900722 Mon, 04 Aug 2008 23:36:53 EDT Re: PlaceboAV - any good? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20900362 EGeezer :

said by fatness

:

From that thread: :)

quote:
I have been surprised at the English speakers who are fooled by anything named Placebo.

I suspect that Obecalp PC-Healer Pro would sell well. The pharmaceutical products are widely distributed.

BTW PlaceboAV runs like a charm on my system. :)
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20900362 Mon, 04 Aug 2008 22:26:38 EDT Re: PlaceboAV - any good? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20900239 dave :

Check it with Rogue Remover first.

"As seen on TV" rouge remover.

Oh. Nevermind.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20900239 Mon, 04 Aug 2008 22:06:02 EDT Re: PlaceboAV - any good? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20900208 AB :

said by fatness

:

From that thread: :)

quote:
I have been surprised at the English speakers who are fooled by anything named Placebo.

Try these, also from that thread:

quote:
(Quoted:) The good news is that the 5 years ProPlus license will be free! (419 Software requires a notarized copy of your birth certificate and your credit card details and bank account password for identification purposes only.)

(And then in reply:) There's no way I'm going to give out that info!!!

Next up:

quote:
A FREE Nigerian miracle? I know only "FREE Nigerian letters".

Check it with Rogue Remover first.

Alrighty then.
Nobody will be pulling a fast one on any of these keenly-honed mavens of security-- nosiree Bob!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20900208 Mon, 04 Aug 2008 21:59:40 EDT Re: PlaceboAV - any good? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20899815 fatness : From that thread: :)

quote:
I have been surprised at the English speakers who are fooled by anything named Placebo.

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Female monkeys often utter loud, distinctive calls before, during or after sex..]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20899815 Mon, 04 Aug 2008 20:49:57 EDT Re: PlaceboAV - any good? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20899768 Airwolf : Thread regarding this. Dave was mentioned there. :p

»forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=37621.0

quote:
It was started by Dave, a long-term and respected member there...

]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20899768 Mon, 04 Aug 2008 20:37:54 EDT Re: PlaceboAV - any good? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20898720 anon : Why, yes I am :) I needed a respite from my unending, exhausting battle to eradicate access to child porn... Are you a user of PlaceboAV?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20898720 Mon, 04 Aug 2008 16:58:44 EDT Re: PlaceboAV - any good? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20898654 nwrickert :

Loc: @bellsouth.net

Hi, Andrew Cuomo. Are you on a Florida vacation?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20898654 Mon, 04 Aug 2008 16:47:30 EDT Re: PlaceboAV - any good? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20898088 anon : It has come to my attention that the discussed application (PlaceboAV), has an undocumented feature that allows indiscriminate downloading of progams in the background. In my opinion this undocumented feature could be used to provide access to child porn. We have developed a system for identifying illegal images by their unique "hash values" (a kind of digital fingerprint); that can then be used to search for the same image anywhere it appears on the tubes of the internet. Anyone who is using this application (PlaceboAV) must contact my office immediately to sign agreements to eradicate access to child porn. Failure to do so will prompt immediate investigations of PlaceboAV users and the possibility of civil or criminal charges in order to extract concessions (and/or cash) on Internet safety.
We *will* eradicate access to child porn on all fronts and by *any* means.

Office of New York State Attorney General
The People's Lawyer
»www.oag.state.ny.us/]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20898088 Mon, 04 Aug 2008 15:04:54 EDT Re: PlaceboAV - any good? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20897992 jaykaykay : I have to say that having a little deflection from the norm in this Forum is perfect. It isn't often that one of these threads takes off, but when it does, it's a wonderful release. If Placebo would work as well as this thread has for a way to tickle the funny bone of many, I will be the first to d/l it, even if it screws up my AV and crap catcher. How bad can it be? :p]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20897992 Mon, 04 Aug 2008 14:49:58 EDT Re: PlaceboAV - any good? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20896636 anon : "419 Software"? ROFLMAO!

Does anyone remember Rodzilla's "CLICK HERE TO INFECT YOUR PC" button?

If some of the posters in this thread were around 15 years ago they would have clicked on it for sure. :D]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20896636 Mon, 04 Aug 2008 10:01:30 EDT msg deleted http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20896201 anon : deleted by a moderator]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20896201 Mon, 04 Aug 2008 05:39:25 EDT Re: PlaceboAV - any good? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20896127 TheDarkRide :

said by Mele20

:

Not only newbies may take this seriously but there were some regulars here who appeared to take it seriously/be confused.

You've got to seriously question the advice or commentary offered up by a "regular" (*cough*Oleg*cough*) who took this one hook, line, sinker, rod, reel, fisherman and boat.

I agree with Crystal Sky that there's really no need to label the OP as a "joke" given the hilarious absurdity of it all. If one is reading this forum, especially regularly, I would hope that person would at least have the common sense to read about product(s) he/she downloads and installs on any computer he/she values. And let's not even discuss the questions prompted about someone who bases important software decisions solely on random testimonials from strangers.

To the OP: Funny stuff and a good way to find out which readers have sticks that are inextricably lodged up their rear-ends.
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said by dave

:

The 'Nigerian' connection is due to another poster here taking the original joke and running with it.

I'm sorry I did. Half the Internet wants to join the beta team, and thousands of shrewd investors want to buy 100,000 shares in the company for $10,000. (Humor-impaired readers thinking about purchasing shares should pay close attention to promotional videos)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20896099 Mon, 04 Aug 2008 02:42:54 EDT Re: PlaceboAV - any good? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20896056 AB :

said by SnowyOne

:

hehe, what a pleasant trick!

More details:

»www.urbandictionary.com/define.p···k+rolled

»Is this link malicious?

:D]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20896056 Mon, 04 Aug 2008 02:19:24 EDT Re: PlaceboAV - any good? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20896024 SnowyOne :

said by AB

said by SnowyOne

said by bobince

:

Please use our toll-free ...

Totally awesome!
I would have posted sooner but my Grandson on hearing the music jumped on my lap & forced me to not only replay the video but insisted on hearing a few other tracks.
Good stuff!

By checking out the comments under that video, you'll notice the technical term for clicking on that link is "getting rick-rolled". ;)

hehe, what a pleasant trick!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20896024 Mon, 04 Aug 2008 02:05:09 EDT Re: PlaceboAV - any good? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20896020 hpguru :

said by dave

:

I saw this new antivirus software called PlaceboAV. Should I install it?

»www.doxdesk.com/updates/2008.htm···-placebo

You'll feel better if you do.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20896020 Mon, 04 Aug 2008 02:04:29 EDT Re: PlaceboAV - any good? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20896005 AB :

said by SnowyOne

said by bobince

:

Please use our toll-free ...

Totally awesome!
I would have posted sooner but my Grandson on hearing the music jumped on my lap & forced me to not only replay the video but insisted on hearing a few other tracks.
Good stuff!

By checking out the comments under that video, you'll notice the technical term for clicking on that link is "getting rick-rolled". ;)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20896005 Mon, 04 Aug 2008 01:53:52 EDT Re: PlaceboAV - any good? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20895182 SnowyOne :

said by bobince

:

Please use our toll-free ...

Totally awesome!
I would have posted sooner but my Grandson on hearing the music jumped on my lap & forced me to not only replay the video but insisted on hearing a few other tracks.
Good stuff!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20895182 Sun, 03 Aug 2008 22:14:13 EDT Re: PlaceboAV - any good? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20895006 bobince : Dear Mr Reports,

I am writing on behalf of DOXdesk Reputable Security Products Ltd Inc to request removal of the unauthorised article entitled "PlaceboAV - any good?" and any other material you have hosted on your so-called 'Web Forum Site Blog' on this subject.

In this article you claim our very much reputable and worthwhile security product application system to be a 'joke' or 'hoax'. This defamatory and misleading description of our widely-recognised award-winning softwaring stands to significantly damage our reputation as world-leading vendor of inert security solutions.

Should you fail to cease and desist in this militious mischaracterisating you may be subject to civil and criminal penalties for tortoise interferers with our very much almost reputable business and may be liarbles for the costs of the countless man-ours put into the development of whatever it was we called that thing in the end, and also my drinks bill.

Plus we'll get our programmer to hack you in the computer using a C++. So sort it out.

Yours sincerely,

Radovan J. Whelklemons III
Attorney at the Bar
or, after 3pm, under it

said by mikenolan7 :
Anyone have a link for Doxdesk refunds?

Please use our toll-free Customer Careline.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20895006 Sun, 03 Aug 2008 21:32:45 EDT Re: PlaceboAV - any good? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20894779 AB :

said by SomeFool

:

The buzz at all the OS writers blogs is about a new, soon to be released non-tasking OS called Placebo NadaView. Word is that it has both Microsoft and Apple worried. Experts report that Placebo NadaView completely rejects all past and future Malware. Sounds like the solution we've all been waiting for.

Mozilla.org already has that covered with their 'NoLoad' and 'Browser-B-Gone' extensions.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20894779 Sun, 03 Aug 2008 20:28:10 EDT Re: PlaceboAV - any good? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20894697 SomeFool : The buzz at all the OS writers blogs is about a new, soon to be released non-tasking OS called Placebo NadaView. Word is that it has both Microsoft and Apple worried. Experts report that Placebo NadaView completely rejects all past and future Malware. Sounds like the solution we've all been waiting for.

]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20894697 Sun, 03 Aug 2008 20:04:12 EDT Re: The Meaning of Placebo http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20894629 dave :

said by Hutch

:

You've got to be Kidding, this is another hoax from Nigeria yet again.

This thread is getting risky - it's entirely possible that Hutch

is possessed of a wicked sense of humour and I'm going to look silly. But I'll play my hunch...

PlaceboAv is not associated with anything Nigerian, as is obvious to anyone who reads the web posting. They're not asking for anything from you, except insofar as they tell you that if you want to pay $30/year you can get exactly the same nothing as you can get for free.

The 'Nigerian' connection is due to another poster here taking the original joke and running with it. To perfectly amusing effect, I might add.

This isn't a hoax. A hoax promises you something and you get nothing. The PlaceboAv people promise nothing and deliver it.

If, of course, you knew all this and were just being ridiculous - then I apologize for my idiocy.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20894629 Sun, 03 Aug 2008 19:46:01 EDT Re: PlaceboAV - any good? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20894477 AB :

said by jaykaykay

:

. . Haven't got a humerous bone in my body. . . .

I'm betting that you do. ;)

»www.answers.com/topic/humerus]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20894477 Sun, 03 Aug 2008 19:09:17 EDT The Meaning of Placebo http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20894436 Hutch : placebo
noun (pl2=placeboes)
(pharmacology)

1. A dummy medicine containing no active ingredients; an inert treatment.
2. Anything of no real benefit which nevertheless makes people feel better.

»nitecruzrnews.blogspot.com/2008/···ion.html

My thoughts on this AV are simple. They want a Copy of My Birth Certificate & Credit Card Details & Bank Account password. And offer shares in the Placebo Company.

Edited due to my lack of understanding. :)

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If I knew then, what I know now. I would have still made the same mistakes.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20894436 Sun, 03 Aug 2008 19:00:23 EDT Re: PlaceboAV - any good? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20894372 mikenolan7 :

said by Ravenheart

:

some virus that didn't even have to be propagated but was just present on our systems through the nature of things.

Referring, of course, to the human behind the keyboard. :D]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20894372 Sun, 03 Aug 2008 18:45:47 EDT Re: PlaceboAV - any good? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20894349 Ravenheart :

I'm going to go ahead and install it anyway, though. :)

That seems like a good idea just to be on the safe side.

Look at it this way: Suppose this thread were an unintended premature leak of some newly discovered security flaw--some virus that didn't even have to be propagated but was just present on our systems through the nature of things. And then people were attempting to treat it all as a joke to draw attention away from how the cat was out of the bag.

Maybe I'll dig out my Kaypro PC and see how PlaceboAV runs under DOS on a V20 chip. That might offer some protection.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20894349 Sun, 03 Aug 2008 18:41:26 EDT Re: PlaceboAV - any good? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20894278 tempnexus : You won't regret it! AT worst it will do anything at all, at best it will give you a peace of mind.

On the side note: I treat my wife as a sex object, I want sex...she objects.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20894278 Sun, 03 Aug 2008 18:21:13 EDT Re: PlaceboAV - any good? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20894254 anon :

said by Cudni

said by nwrickert

:

I do think it was a mistake for a few posters in the »What is your protection thread to link to the current thread. I suspect that is what might have given a few people the wrong impression about placeboAV.

You don't think PlaceboAv is a valid protection as concept?

Cudni

I've meticulously read through this thread several times now, examined all the information offered at the DOXdesk website, and I'm beginning to get the impression the original post was not meant to be taken seriously, that PlaceboAV doen't actually protect against anything, and that somebody is having me on.

I'm going to go ahead and install it anyway, though. :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20894254 Sun, 03 Aug 2008 18:16:20 EDT Re: PlaceboAV - any good? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20894069 tempnexus :

said by Cudni

said by jaykaykay

:

Nothing offers 100% protection unless one cuts the electrical cord!

100% shock if done with electricity running still when cutting ;)

Cudni

But at that time who gives a F about PC protection, that's when your life insurance takes over which in IMHO is worse then any Trojan installation out there.

Think of it as Ransomware, try to get them to pay up.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20894069 Sun, 03 Aug 2008 17:29:24 EDT Re: PlaceboAV - any good? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20894054 Cudni :

said by jaykaykay

:

Nothing offers 100% protection unless one cuts the electrical cord!

100% shock if done with electricity running still when cutting ;)

Cudni
--
"Mercifully, he hit him with the soft end of the pistol."
Help yourself so God can help you.
Microsoft MVP, 2006 - 2008]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20894054 Sun, 03 Aug 2008 17:26:41 EDT Re: PlaceboAV - any good? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20894045 jaykaykay : Of course I am serious. I am always serious. Haven't got a humerous bone in my body. Why do you ask?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20894045 Sun, 03 Aug 2008 17:24:50 EDT Re: PlaceboAV - any good? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20894041 jaykaykay : Nothing offers 100% protection unless one cuts the electrical cord!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20894041 Sun, 03 Aug 2008 17:23:52 EDT Re: PlaceboAV - any good? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20893742 Ravenheart :

said by Rexter

:

I hear they're working on Placebo OS. Their mission statement reads. "Lets not, but say we did!"

I think if we could have a simple, nontasking operating environment like this, many of the problems and controversies that have emerged in this thread could be avoid. It would be the perfect complement to Placebo AV.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20893742 Sun, 03 Aug 2008 16:19:20 EDT Re: PlaceboAV - any good? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20893626 Cudni :

said by nwrickert

You don't think PlaceboAv is a valid protection as concept?

Cudni
--
"Mercifully, he hit him with the soft end of the pistol."
Help yourself so God can help you.
Microsoft MVP, 2006 - 2008]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20893626 Sun, 03 Aug 2008 15:50:24 EDT Re: PlaceboAV - any good? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20893614 nwrickert :

Not only newbies may take this seriously but there were some regulars here who appeared to take it seriously/be confused. It should have been labeled OT as you observed. You haven't been here much in a while or you would know that this sort of thing is ok here now....this is not the first one.

I really think this thread is fine. The evidence that it is all for fun is everywhere.

I do think it was a mistake for a few posters in the »What is your protection thread to link to the current thread. I suspect that is what might have given a few people the wrong impression about placeboAV.
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AT&T dsl; Westell 327w modem/router; openSuSE 11.0; firefox 3.0.1]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20893614 Sun, 03 Aug 2008 15:47:40 EDT Re: PlaceboAV - any good? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20893611 mikenolan7 : Mac fanboys jump up and shout:

"Yeah, well, Mac's don't need PlaceboAV!"]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20893611 Sun, 03 Aug 2008 15:46:34 EDT Re: PlaceboAV - any good? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20893603 Cudni :

said by SnowyOne

said by Cudni

:

PlaceboAV does it faster though
Cudni

Scene3:
Stage Left: The PlaceboAV fanboys enter. :)

Audience applaud rapturously? :)

Cudni
--
"Mercifully, he hit him with the soft end of the pistol."
Help yourself so God can help you.
Microsoft MVP, 2006 - 2008]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20893603 Sun, 03 Aug 2008 15:45:12 EDT Re: PlaceboAV - any good? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20893602 salzan : I've discovered that PlaceboAV provides all the advertised protection without even downloading and installing it!

Talk about light on resources.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20893602 Sun, 03 Aug 2008 15:45:02 EDT Re: PlaceboAV - any good? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20893591 SnowyOne :

said by Cudni

:

PlaceboAV does it faster though
Cudni

Scene3:
Stage Left: The PlaceboAV fanboys enter. :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20893591 Sun, 03 Aug 2008 15:43:11 EDT Re: PlaceboAV - any good? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20893581 Cudni :

said by Oleg

said by SnowyOne

said by Oleg

:

So it will pass this test: »www.eicar.org/anti_virus_test_file.htm

Where does it claim to flag the eicar test string or anything else for that matter? References please.

KAV and NOD32 does :-)

PlaceboAV does it faster though

Cudni
--
"Mercifully, he hit him with the soft end of the pistol."
Help yourself so God can help you.
Microsoft MVP, 2006 - 2008]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20893581 Sun, 03 Aug 2008 15:37:56 EDT Re: PlaceboAV - any good? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20893576 SnowyOne :

said by Oleg

said by SnowyOne

said by Oleg

:

So it will pass this test: »www.eicar.org/anti_virus_test_file.htm

Where does it claim to flag the eicar test string or anything else for that matter? References please.

KAV and NOD32 does :-)

KAV & NOD32 claims that PlaceboAV will flag the eicar string?
Do you have a reference to back that claim up?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20893576 Sun, 03 Aug 2008 15:36:56 EDT Re: PlaceboAV - any good? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20893546 Oleg :

said by SnowyOne

said by Oleg

:

So it will pass this test: »www.eicar.org/anti_virus_test_file.htm

Where does it claim to flag the eicar test string or anything else for that matter? References please.

KAV and NOD32 does :-)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20893546 Sun, 03 Aug 2008 15:30:23 EDT Re: PlaceboAV - any good? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20893515 SnowyOne :

said by Oleg

:

So it will pass this test: »www.eicar.org/anti_virus_test_file.htm

Where does it claim to flag the eicar test string or anything else for that matter? References please.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20893515 Sun, 03 Aug 2008 15:23:06 EDT Re: PlaceboAV - any good? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20893493 Oleg : So it will pass this test: »www.eicar.org/anti_virus_test_file.htm
and where can i get pro version to try for free?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20893493 Sun, 03 Aug 2008 15:18:05 EDT Re: PlaceboAV - any good? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20893398 SnowyOne :

said by Oleg

:

Does anyone have any proof it really works?

It does do everything it says it won't do.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20893398 Sun, 03 Aug 2008 14:49:41 EDT Re: PlaceboAV - any good? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20893165 SomeFool : Proof? Isn't it like asking: Does anyone have proof that Windows really works? Have faith brother. ;)

Yes, by all means. Oh the humanity of it all.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20893165 Sun, 03 Aug 2008 13:52:25 EDT Re: PlaceboAV - any good? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20893155 jabarnut :

said by Oleg

:

Does anyone have any proof it really works?

Oleg...please do me a tremendous favor. (If in fact you're serious).

Read the entire thread again, and pay very close attention.
Please, for the sake of all humanity, I'm begging you.
--
I had a life once.....now I have a Computer and a Modem.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20893155 Sun, 03 Aug 2008 13:48:45 EDT Re: PlaceboAV - any good? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20893123 Oleg : Does anyone have any proof it really works?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20893123 Sun, 03 Aug 2008 13:41:33 EDT Re: PlaceboAV - any good? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20893098 SomeFool : Everyone can quit worrying. My installation of PlaceboAV Pro autoupdated and then removed itself this morning - Har. :D]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20893098 Sun, 03 Aug 2008 13:33:17 EDT Re: PlaceboAV - any good? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20892890 dave :

said by Sparrow

:

Yes, I read it, but apparently some people are not and funny or otherwise, who is responsible for those who trust without looking like this long time member?

»Re: What is your protection

Uh, that 'long-time member' was making a joke.

said by long time member :

Now I am going to have to redownload the internet, install antivirus in my modem and reinstall AOL on my motherboard.

]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20892890 Sun, 03 Aug 2008 12:50:16 EDT Re: PlaceboAV - any good? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20892853 dave :

said by fatness

:

Good, because that would obscure a point that has inadvertently been made by followup posts ---- people are easy to fool. And if that's not a security issue then nothing is. Critical reading and understanding are important weapon against that weaknesss.

Yes, I agree. If you're fooled by something that is clearly intended as a fake, how the heck can you expect to identify a scam when you see one? The scam won't be nearly as obvious as the joke.

I think it's time for adding mandatory checks on 'plausibility detectors' to the annual Internet-user licence renewal requirements.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20892853 Sun, 03 Aug 2008 12:41:52 EDT Re: PlaceboAV - any good? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20892802 Selenia :

said by dave

:

Apparently you're right - the intelligence level has now sunk so low that people can't tell that an obvious joke is a joke.

said by dave

:

Lastly, what do you suppose the word "placebo" means?

Agreed, it was a joke and a good one at that. It had serious undertones and even went as far to include an exe( it is a harmless exe as long as YOU DON'T TAKE IT SERIOUSLY and make it your sole antivirus protection!), but still came off as funny. C'mon guys, just laugh. We all need a tension breaker sometimes.

Perhaps the 2nd quote is the first thing everyone should have noticed...

btw, I may not believe in the products he is bashing very much, but there are many other proactive things to do to protect yourself from viruses. They should NOT be overlooked.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20892802 Sun, 03 Aug 2008 12:28:40 EDT Re: PlaceboAV - any good? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20892781 mikenolan7 : Anyone have a link for Doxdesk refunds?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20892781 Sun, 03 Aug 2008 12:23:37 EDT Re: PlaceboAV - any good? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20892551 Wildcatboy :

said by Mele20

said by Sparrow

:

In 2005, Wildcatboy

would have been on this like a fly on s*it...

It's mostly lilhurricane

now.

No, I don't think I would have and no, it's still only me. I was reading this thread last night and I agree with fatness. It's a good Security related thread. There's a lesson to be learned from this thread. If you haven't learned it, try harder.
--
You can catch the Devil, but you can't hold him long.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20892551 Sun, 03 Aug 2008 11:16:16 EDT Re: PlaceboAV - any good? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20892539 Sparrow :

said by fatness

:

Looking at the thread, it is not the reading skills of newbies that seemed to fail.

Well, better I sign out and stay out in that case. I've never known you to be sarcastic when a user at BBR was trying to make a legitimate point, but obviously you've joined the crowd, sorry to say.

Ciao.
--
"Be simple, be earnest and spread that simplicity throughout everything you do."]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20892539 Sun, 03 Aug 2008 11:12:15 EDT Re: PlaceboAV - any good? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20892530 fatness :

said by Sparrow

said by fatness

said by dave

:

As for overtly labelling a joke 'a joke' - nope, I'm not going to do that.

fatness

,

This forum is to help, and that is what we used to do here, not "test" a newbie's tech or reading skills.

Looking at the thread, it is not the reading skills of newbies that seemed to fail.
--
Female monkeys often utter loud, distinctive calls before, during or after sex..]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20892530 Sun, 03 Aug 2008 11:07:26 EDT Re: PlaceboAV - any good? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20892491 Sparrow :

said by Mele20

said by Sparrow

:

Dave, I'm not going to argue with you, and yes, I do understand the word "placebo", but my concern for newbies remains. No, nothing will happen, but I still think this thread should have been marked [OT].

In 2005, Wildcatboy

would have been on this like a fly on s*it...

Sorry, my opinion remains - this forum ain't what it used to be.

It's mostly lilhurricane

I've been here, Mele, I have found no reason to sign in anymore and lurk quietly in the shadows.

Apparently, threads like this are a thing of the past:

Edit to add (for those who don't like to read):
»Re: How would you improve the Security forum?

»How would you improve the Security forum?
»More RPC/TFTP malware, this time local
»IE 6 SP1 Security Zone settings FAQ
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"Be simple, be earnest and spread that simplicity throughout everything you do."]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20892491 Sun, 03 Aug 2008 10:55:24 EDT Re: PlaceboAV - any good? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20892462 Sparrow :

said by fatness

said by dave

:

As for overtly labelling a joke 'a joke' - nope, I'm not going to do that.

fatness

,

This forum is to help, and that is what we used to do here, not "test" a newbie's tech or reading skills. When someone is infected, a newbie and scared, they don't read, they continue with old habits and "click". I did not even respond to this until I had time to read the entire thread, and if I'm a little pissed, it's because I expect more from this forum than posting jokes at the risk of hurting a newbie.
--
"Be simple, be earnest and spread that simplicity throughout everything you do."]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20892462 Sun, 03 Aug 2008 10:47:00 EDT Re: PlaceboAV - any good? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20892444 Mele20 :

said by Sparrow

would have been on this like a fly on s*it...

Sorry, my opinion remains - this forum ain't what it used to be.

It's mostly lilhurricane

now. You are correct that this would have been all over very fast a couple of years ago.

I'm glad you injected some sanity into this thread. Not only newbies may take this seriously but there were some regulars here who appeared to take it seriously/be confused. It should have been labeled OT as you observed. You haven't been here much in a while or you would know that this sort of thing is ok here now....this is not the first one.
--
"The same ferocity that our founders devoted to protect the freedom and independence of the press is now appropriate for our defense of the freedom of the internet. The stakes are the same: the survival of our Republic". Al Gore, The Assault on Reason]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20892444 Sun, 03 Aug 2008 10:40:52 EDT Re: PlaceboAV - any good? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20892433 Cheese :

said by tempnexus

:

You should really try ZORBIES they can absorb 20 times it's weight and it's a perfect cleaning product.....(actually my friend fell for it, he bought the darn thing...it's nothing more then a shammy cloth and it fell apart after one use.) :)

Zorbeez!

»www.asseenontv.com/prod-pages/zo···402.html

HI, BILLY MAYS HERE FOR ZORBEEZ! :p]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20892433 Sun, 03 Aug 2008 10:38:08 EDT Re: PlaceboAV - any good? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20892430 fatness :

said by dave

:

As for overtly labelling a joke 'a joke' - nope, I'm not going to do that.

Good, because that would obscure a point that has inadvertently been made by followup posts ---- people are easy to fool. And if that's not a security issue then nothing is. Critical reading and understanding are important weapon against that weaknesss.

BTW, Doxdesk also makes condoms. :)
--
Female monkeys often utter loud, distinctive calls before, during or after sex..]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20892430 Sun, 03 Aug 2008 10:37:24 EDT Re: PlaceboAV - any good? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20892429 jabarnut :

said by Sparrow

:

In 2005, Wildcatboy

would have been on this like a fly on s*it...

I don't think Wildcatboy will be around until a bit later.

But I will agree with one thing.
When he reads this thread, he'll hardly believe his eyes.

I know I don't.
--
I had a life once.....now I have a Computer and a Modem.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20892429 Sun, 03 Aug 2008 10:36:59 EDT Re: PlaceboAV - any good? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20892421 Rexter : I hear they're working on Placebo OS. Their mission statement reads. "Lets not, but say we did!"]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20892421 Sun, 03 Aug 2008 10:34:48 EDT Re: PlaceboAV - any good? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20892397 Sparrow :

said by dave

said by Sparrow

:

There were jokes, but there was also a great deal more intelligence than is floating around here now.

Dave, I'm not going to argue with you, and yes, I do understand the word "placebo", but my concern for newbies remains. No, nothing will happen, but I still think this thread should have been marked [OT].

In 2005, Wildcatboy

would have been on this like a fly on s*it...

Sorry, my opinion remains - this forum ain't what it used to be.
--
"Be simple, be earnest and spread that simplicity throughout everything you do."]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20892397 Sun, 03 Aug 2008 10:29:05 EDT Re: PlaceboAV - any good? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20892376 dave :

said by Sparrow

:

There were jokes, but there was also a great deal more intelligence than is floating around here now.

Apparently you're right - the intelligence level has now sunk so low that people can't tell that an obvious joke is a joke.

As for overtly labelling a joke 'a joke' - nope, I'm not going to do that. It's obvious in the joke itself. A sure way to lower the intelligence level of the membership is to start assuming that the membership isn't intelligent enough to understand what I mean.

As to whether my original posting was off-topic; well, no, I don't think it was off-topic, any more than I think that editorial cartoons in newspapers have nothing to do with the current news. In both cases, a serious point is wrapped up in a joke. At the risk of stating the blindingly obvious: I agree with the doxdesk guy's opinion of most anti-virus products. And you could have read his opinion more directly if you'd only scrolled up a little from the "PlaceboAV" part.

Lastly, what do you suppose the word "placebo" means?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20892376 Sun, 03 Aug 2008 10:23:56 EDT Re: PlaceboAV - any good? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20892369 tempnexus : You should really try ZORBIES they can absorb 20 times it's weight and it's a perfect cleaning product.....(actually my friend fell for it, he bought the darn thing...it's nothing more then a shammy cloth and it fell apart after one use.) :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20892369 Sun, 03 Aug 2008 10:22:17 EDT Re: PlaceboAV - any good? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20892361 Diazruanova :

said by Mele20

:

This is the most nonsensical thread I've read. What the hell are you guys talking about? I assume this is some stupid joke but it sure isn't funny, doesn't deserve all the attention and should not be posted in a serious security forum. Some posters believe it. Plus, reading this thread is like reading the ravings of lunatics.

I agree, these guys should post somewhere else all of this pretended jokes about magic security programs that remind me the cheap advertisements on cheap miracle products like skin creams and beverages with such properties that make you loose 500 pounds in just one week.
--
Diazruanova]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20892361 Sun, 03 Aug 2008 10:20:08 EDT Re: PlaceboAV - any good? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20892357 tempnexus : Well as for me my post was at midnight after a working saturday so I was in a funny/tired mood.
I saw the joke running here, so I just took the ball and ran with it. :)

But yeah I get your gist, a non-computer litterate member or a "new user" will actually take all this seriously. Even attempting his darnest to install AOL on the Motherboard followed by flooding the AOL switchboard with help phone calls telling them that the disk will not install on the motherboard and that his CPU just ejected his memory card.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20892357 Sun, 03 Aug 2008 10:18:33 EDT Re: PlaceboAV - any good? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20892348 Mele20 : This is the most nonsensical thread I've read. What the hell are you guys talking about? I assume this is some stupid joke but it sure isn't funny, doesn't deserve all the attention and should not be posted in a serious security forum. Some posters believe it. Plus, reading this thread is like reading the ravings of lunatics.
--
"The same ferocity that our founders devoted to protect the freedom and independence of the press is now appropriate for our defense of the freedom of the internet. The stakes are the same: the survival of our Republic". Al Gore, The Assault on Reason]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20892348 Sun, 03 Aug 2008 10:15:38 EDT Re: PlaceboAV - any good? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20892346 Sparrow :

said by tempnexus

said by Sparrow

said by dave

:

So you suggest that there are people who

1) Can read the words "it does nothing at all"

2) Will then believe the software is a legitimate anti-virus product

?

Yes, I read it, but apparently some people are not and funny or otherwise, who is responsible for those who trust without looking like this long time member?

»Re: What is your protection

Wait you actually believed what I wrote?

YES.

Look, I am as anal about security as anyone here and enjoy a good joke as much as the next person, and I do read before posting, but as I mentioned above, perhaps the word "Joke" or "OT" would be appropriate.

Users all over the world come here for advise, and a lot of those users as we well know, click without reading.

Maybe I got up on the wrong side of the bed this morning, but this forum certainly is not what it was when I joined back in 2002. There were jokes, but there was also a great deal more intelligence than is floating around here now.

[End of rant]
--
"Be simple, be earnest and spread that simplicity throughout everything you do."]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20892346 Sun, 03 Aug 2008 10:14:46 EDT Re: PlaceboAV - any good? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20892335 Hambone : They's gotten to say that to cover themselves... legal like.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20892335 Sun, 03 Aug 2008 10:11:16 EDT Re: PlaceboAV - any good? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20892328 tempnexus :

said by Sparrow

said by dave

:

So you suggest that there are people who

1) Can read the words "it does nothing at all"

2) Will then believe the software is a legitimate anti-virus product

?

Yes, I read it, but apparently some people are not and funny or otherwise, who is responsible for those who trust without looking like this long time member?

»Re: What is your protection

Wait you actually believed what I wrote?

What I wrote are a series of impossibilities strung together, kind of meant to give away the fact that my statements are false.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20892328 Sun, 03 Aug 2008 10:08:53 EDT Re: PlaceboAV - any good? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20892316 Sparrow :

said by dave

:

So you suggest that there are people who

1) Can read the words "it does nothing at all"

2) Will then believe the software is a legitimate anti-virus product

?

Yes, I read it, but apparently some people are not and funny or otherwise, who is responsible for those who trust without looking like this long time member?

»Re: What is your protection
--
"Be simple, be earnest and spread that simplicity throughout everything you do."]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20892316 Sun, 03 Aug 2008 10:06:22 EDT Re: PlaceboAV - any good? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20892307 jabarnut : This is one of the most entertaining threads I've seen in a long time.

All I can say is....wow!

Thanks for the heads up dave.
A real eye opener for sure.
--
I had a life once.....now I have a Computer and a Modem.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20892307 Sun, 03 Aug 2008 10:03:47 EDT Re: PlaceboAV - any good? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20892289 dave : So you suggest that there are people who

1) Can read the words "it does nothing at all"

2) Will then believe the software is a legitimate anti-virus product

?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20892289 Sun, 03 Aug 2008 09:58:08 EDT Re: PlaceboAV - any good? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20892277 Sparrow : dave

,

Maybe it is a Sunday morning and my mind is in a fog, but what the hell is this all about?

If memory serves me correctly, you do not run an AV, and whilst I agree with the below quote from Placebo, I honestly wonder how many people are actually trying to install this thinking it's legit.

No, I did not click any links... still in too much of a fog... :huh: :hmm: :uhh:

Today's AV is a dead loss. But you can't simply not install any, or everyone will complain. That's where PlaceboAV comes in! It's the fantasic anti-virus solution that's super-fast and absolutely reliable... because it does nothing at all.

Yes, new from DOXdesk, PlaceboAV is just as effective as leading anti-virus software—that is, completely ineffective—whilst having no negative impact on system performance, and never bugging you with extraneous errors.

Get the full performance out of your computer, in total peace of mind because there's a little icon in your system tray so you must be safe. And if you're worried that your protection isn't up to date, open the program window, and simply click the Update button for all the latest definitions!

(NB. Since there are no definitions, the Update function does not actually bother to contact the definitions server, and just pretends to load updates. This is more efficient on network bandwidth. And also there is no definitions server.)

Download PlaceboAV now! An unbelievable feature-set packed into just 56KB of executable*! Lordy, it's a miracle! And it's free!

And! As Well! Purchase PlaceboAV Plus Pro now! It's got all the great features of PlaceboAV Free edition, plus you can pay $30 a year for it! Awesome!

DOXdesk is not responsible for any viruses you get whilst using PlaceboAV under the impression it is actually doing something. Well, we probably are responsible, but we're not going to do anything about it and you'll not get a penny out of us. Go away now.

]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20892277 Sun, 03 Aug 2008 09:53:20 EDT Re: PlaceboAV - any good? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20892240 anon : I tried it with Ubuntu linux, but no joy :( They I remembered I might need to install wine, then all worked well. Although some needs to write a script to stop all the password prompts that happen now.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20892240 Sun, 03 Aug 2008 09:39:09 EDT Re: PlaceboAV - any good? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20892213 dave :

said by Hambone

:

Too bad... cause ifing he takes over the AV he'll be able to charge us whatever he likes for the free version.

Stop press - Gates is no longer in the business of selling software. He has another gig now.

Actually, even before he left Microsoft, he hadn't been the CEO for years... so it's way past time to stop personalizing Microsoft as "Bill Gates".]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20892213 Sun, 03 Aug 2008 09:28:08 EDT Re: PlaceboAV - any good? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20891779 anon :

said by Hambone

:

That Gates has got more money than Mississippi has skeeters. I can't compete with him.

Too bad... cause ifing he takes over the AV he'll be able to charge us whatever he likes for the free version.

He's no dummy -- he has a history of buying out new companies and then adding their products to Windows as improvements.

If Bill Gates starts charging for the free version it won't affect anyone who gets in early and grabs the 5 year free license.

ProPlus downloads cracked Microsoft programs too. I already have an internal beta release of Windows7 cracked by "Dark Avenger".

:)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20891779 Sun, 03 Aug 2008 01:54:31 EDT Re: PlaceboAV - any good? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20891761 Hambone : That Gates has got more money than Mississippi has skeeters. I can't compete with him.

Too bad... cause ifing he takes over the AV he'll be able to charge us whatever he likes for the free version.

He's no dummy -- he has a history of buying out new companies and then adding their products to Windows as improvements.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20891761 Sun, 03 Aug 2008 01:43:46 EDT Re: PlaceboAV - any good? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20891753 anon :

said by FiOS Dan

said by SomeFool

:

PlaceboAV Pro works in the background, not only searching for free software on the net, but then even installing it automatically. I have gotten so many new apps this way that I haven't yet had time to find out what most of them do.

What in the world are you talking about?! Your AV DLs and installs things automatically? That sounds dangerous. Exactly what kind of apps are they? :huh:

Once you install PlaceboAV version you will never have to pay for software again.

The free ProPlus version Googles for "keygen" and "cracked" every 24 hours by default, and it automatically downloads and installs every new warez app it finds since last time it looked.

Since I became a PlaceboAV beta tester last month I had to buy 15 Terabytes of external hard drives just to keep up with the supply stream.

edit
I had to disable the automatic pr0n downloads. 4 Terabytes of hard core in 2 days was a bit over the top, and my wrists were starting to get RSI from watching it.

:)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20891753 Sun, 03 Aug 2008 01:41:39 EDT Re: PlaceboAV - any good? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20891745 Ravenheart : That sounds best of all. I think I could just run the original version indefinitely and not risk an expensive upgrade that might crash my system the way a competing AV did recently.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20891745 Sun, 03 Aug 2008 01:39:01 EDT Re: PlaceboAV - any good? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20891709 anon :

said by Hambone

:

That sounds OK, but I'm pretty shrewd with my money.

I'm gonna hold off on the stock purchase till the discount goes to 15%

You can get 20% discount right now if you buy a million shares like I did. Best $80,000 I ever spent.

You'll need to get in quick though. Obviously Bill Gates knows a good deal when he sees one. There's a rumor he's about to make a "cash plus Microsoft stock options" offer for all the remaining PlaceboAV shares.

:)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20891709 Sun, 03 Aug 2008 01:24:07 EDT Re: PlaceboAV - any good? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20891705 Selenia : I love it lol! It is funny :) I agree that shields are ineffective to a large extent. My experience with a variety of OS had led me to setup security on Windows based on proper permissions and file+memory protection. The Windows firewall should be adequate on a properly configured PC. I do not believe in going with no firewall, no matter how secure the OS and software running on it.

On another note. I ran and observed the .exe in a VM with Hijack This. It is 100% safe to run it. It doesn't even install. It just runs and puts a pill bottle in your taskbar :P]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20891705 Sun, 03 Aug 2008 01:23:32 EDT Re: PlaceboAV - any good? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20891658 Ravenheart : I see now that true security lies in knowing that malware is in the eye of the beholder. The simplest key logger would have seemed unimaginably wonderful in the age of punch cards.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20891658 Sun, 03 Aug 2008 01:05:07 EDT Re: PlaceboAV - any good? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20891653 MarkAW : [att=1]
All one needs to see to download this great little program.

]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20891653 Sun, 03 Aug 2008 01:02:49 EDT Re: PlaceboAV - any good? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20891537 Hambone : 5 inchers are gettin hard to find. I get mine from Ebay.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20891537 Sun, 03 Aug 2008 00:21:32 EDT Re: PlaceboAV - any good? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20891509 Owlbet :

said by HeelYeah

:

I just installed it on my windows 3.1 system with 8mb of ram and it is running like a charm.

I just dusted 20 years worth of cobwebs and mothballs off the ole TRS80. PlaceboAV workin' like a ~~chump~~ champ. Now, where's my 5 inch floppies?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20891509 Sun, 03 Aug 2008 00:12:43 EDT Re: PlaceboAV - any good? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20891419 Hambone : That sounds OK, but I'm pretty shrewd with my money.

I'm gonna hold off on the stock purchase till the discount goes to 15%]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20891419 Sat, 02 Aug 2008 23:48:57 EDT Re: PlaceboAV - any good? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20891381 anon :

said by Hambone

:

Wow... I've GOTTA get that PlaceboAV Pro. It almost sounds too good to be true.

Do you think I should prepare the information about all four of my bank accounts or will just one suffice?

Is it compatable with Windows ME?

Yes, and it's even compatible with Windows 3.11 for Wankgroups.

If you send 419 Software the info on all four of your bank accounts you can have four free licenses, and you will be able to buy 400,000 shares for only $36,000. (10% discount!)

:)

]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20891381 Sat, 02 Aug 2008 23:38:54 EDT Re: PlaceboAV - any good? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20891377 Oleg :

said by cacroll

said by Oleg

:

Nope.

Dang it.

I just got so tired of Avast bellowing

VIRUS DATABASE HAS BEEN UPDATED

2 - 3 times / day, I figured having an AV that never updates would be perfect. But not if it can't provide no protection for Firefox too. :(

I agree :-)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20891377 Sat, 02 Aug 2008 23:37:32 EDT Re: PlaceboAV - any good? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20891371 HeelYeah : I just installed it on my windows 3.1 system with 8mb of ram and it is running like a charm. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20891371 Sat, 02 Aug 2008 23:36:11 EDT Re: PlaceboAV - any good? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20891368 cacroll :

said by Oleg

:

Nope.

Dang it.

I just got so tired of Avast bellowing

VIRUS DATABASE HAS BEEN UPDATED

2 - 3 times / day, I figured having an AV that never updates would be perfect. But not if it can't provide no protection for Firefox too. :(
--
Cheers,
Chuck
MS-MVP 2005-2008 [Windows - Desktop Experience]
Nitecruzr Dot Net]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20891368 Sat, 02 Aug 2008 23:35:47 EDT Re: PlaceboAV - any good? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20891363 anon :

said by Ender3rd

:

Wow, PlaceboAV is such an elegant solution! I got rid of AVAST, Spyware Blaster, Kerio, Adaware 2008 and all my other system utilities. I can't wait to move my computer into the router DMZ to minimize packet loss. Good to know that PlaceboAV is there to keep me feeling completely safe! It is soooooo easy to configure too! There's always an update for me when I hit that update button! I can't wait for the firewall, and I would definitely be willing to alpha test it on the first run.

I can't wait to buy the PRO version for each computer on the LAN at work. It should be so easy to push from the main server!

No need to buy the Pro version. It's old news. 419 Software will be releasing ProPlus soon, with a free 5 year license for up to 10,000 PCs. All you need to do is send a PDF of your birth certificate and your credit card details and bank account password to their head office in Nigeria for identification verification and you'll receive the free license when ProPlus is released.

With all the great publicity PlaceboAV is getting in this forum, buying 100,000 shares in the 419 Software company for $10,000 is a bargain.

:)

]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20891363 Sat, 02 Aug 2008 23:34:29 EDT Re: PlaceboAV - any good? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20891336 Hambone : Wow... I've GOTTA get that PlaceboAV Pro. It almost sounds too good to be true.

Do you think I should prepare the information about all four of my bank accounts or will just one suffice?

Is it compatable with Windows ME?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20891336 Sat, 02 Aug 2008 23:29:22 EDT Re: PlaceboAV - any good? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20891320 anon :

said by cacroll

said by Oleg

said by cacroll

:

Does it have add-on for Firefox, or just support Internet Explorer? It does have a Web Shield function, right?

No it does not.

Not even the ProPlus?

Crap. :mad:

PlaceboAV ProPlus will run perfectly with Internet Explorer, Firefox, MacOS, MSDOS, DRDOS, CP/M, Linux. PalmOS, iPhone, and all mobile devices with Internet access.

It's a miracle, I tell you. A miracle!

:)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20891320 Sat, 02 Aug 2008 23:23:36 EDT Re: PlaceboAV - any good? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20891318 anon :

said by Oleg

said by cacroll

Crap. :mad:

Nope.

I'm sure many would agree.

This marks the dawn of a new age in the field of extraneous malware protection.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20891318 Sat, 02 Aug 2008 23:22:52 EDT Re: PlaceboAV - any good? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20891291 Ender3rd : Wow, PlaceboAV is such an elegant solution! I got rid of AVAST, Spyware Blaster, Kerio, Adaware 2008 and all my other system utilities. I can't wait to move my computer into the router DMZ to minimize packet loss. Good to know that PlaceboAV is there to keep me feeling completely safe! It is soooooo easy to configure too! There's always an update for me when I hit that update button! I can't wait for the firewall, and I would definitely be willing to alpha test it on the first run.

I can't wait to buy the PRO version for each computer on the LAN at work. It should be so easy to push from the main server!
--
My Jeep is not an SUV. Your SUV is not a Jeep.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20891291 Sat, 02 Aug 2008 23:14:27 EDT Re: PlaceboAV - any good? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20891175 Oleg :

said by cacroll

said by Oleg

said by cacroll

:

Does it have add-on for Firefox, or just support Internet Explorer? It does have a Web Shield function, right?

No it does not.

Not even the ProPlus?

Crap. :mad:

Nope.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20891175 Sat, 02 Aug 2008 22:35:56 EDT Re: PlaceboAV - any good? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20891133 cacroll :

said by Oleg

said by cacroll

:

Does it have add-on for Firefox, or just support Internet Explorer? It does have a Web Shield function, right?

No it does not.

Not even the ProPlus?

Crap. :mad:
--
Cheers,
Chuck
MS-MVP 2005-2008 [Windows - Desktop Experience]
Nitecruzr Dot Net]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20891133 Sat, 02 Aug 2008 22:25:27 EDT Re: PlaceboAV - any good? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20891114 Oleg :

said by cacroll

:

Does it have add-on for Firefox, or just support Internet Explorer? It does have a Web Shield function, right?

No it does not.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20891114 Sat, 02 Aug 2008 22:18:41 EDT Re: PlaceboAV - any good? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20891043 cacroll : Does it have add-on for Firefox, or just support Internet Explorer? It does have a Web Shield function, right?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20891043 Sat, 02 Aug 2008 22:00:12 EDT Re: PlaceboAV - any good? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20890951 Oleg : I am sure it will not pass this test: »www.eicar.org/anti_virus_test_file.htm]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20890951 Sat, 02 Aug 2008 21:33:39 EDT Re: PlaceboAV - any good? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20890937 anon :

said by Oleg

:

Computer is not a toy.

But it can be, when used correctly.

And this particular A/V provides a real sense of security, something that can only be enhanced by taking the extra step of making the "Pro" purchase.

You may then surf at your leisure and in total comfort, being fully able to assume that no malware will have a chance to pull any funny business, as that will be left entirely within the purview of the A/V program.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20890937 Sat, 02 Aug 2008 21:30:33 EDT Re: PlaceboAV - any good? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20890879 anon :

said by Oleg

said by SAFFR0N :

PlaceboAV from 419 Software Development, the Nigerian anti-malware experts, is absolute magic!

I'm beta testing the soon-to-be-released ProPlus version which has anti-virus anti-rootkit, anti-spam, anti-popup, anti-adware and antiphlogistine in one small (only 22kb) package.

I had Norton, Kaspersky, NOD32, Trend, McAfee and Avira running on my PC and they all told me I had Vundo, Zlob, Mist, Badtrans, and several serious rootkit infections.

When I uninstalled them all and installed PlaceboAV ProPlus it gave my PC a clean bill of health on the first run. How's that for disinfection efficiency?

PlaceboAV never needs updates, and it won't slow down your PC because it uses no CPU resources.

The good news is that the 5 years ProPlus license will be free! (419 Software requires a notarized copy of your birth certificate and your credit card details and bank account password for identification purposes only.)

Best of all, if you join the beta team you get a bonus of 100,000 shares in the company for only $10,000.

edit
My friends and business associates keep telling me I'm sending them infected emails, but they're still using the same old crappy AVs I got rid of, so what would they know?

:)

Yes let your computer be infected and ignore real Anti-Virus warnings.

My computer can't get infected Oleg, because I'm using the mighty PlaceboAV ProPlus beta from the Nigerian anti-malware experts, 419 Software Development.

Once you install PlaceboAV and get rid of all other anti-something programs your mind will totally virus-free and you'll be able to download keygens and porn and warez without a care.

:)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20890879 Sat, 02 Aug 2008 21:16:03 EDT Re: PlaceboAV - any good? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20890864 anon : From the web site, "An unbelievable feature-set packed into just 56KB of executable*! Lordy, it's a miracle! And it's free!" Well not the Pro Version. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20890864 Sat, 02 Aug 2008 21:11:46 EDT Re: PlaceboAV - any good? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20890852 Oleg :

said by SnowyOne

said by Oleg

:

I do not see why someone would want to download apps automatically i know i like to chose my apps.

Where's the fun in that?? :)

Computer is not a toy.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20890852 Sat, 02 Aug 2008 21:07:48 EDT Re: PlaceboAV - any good? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20890850 Oleg :

Yes let your computer be infected and ignore real Anti-Virus warnings.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20890850 Sat, 02 Aug 2008 21:07:08 EDT Re: PlaceboAV - any good? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20890846 anon : PlaceboAV from 419 Software Development, the Nigerian anti-malware experts, is absolute magic!

I'm beta testing the soon-to-be-released ProPlus version which has anti-virus anti-rootkit, anti-spam, anti-popup, anti-adware and antiphlogistine in one small (only 22kb) package.

I had Norton, Kaspersky, NOD32, Trend, McAfee and Avira running on my PC and they all told me I had Vundo, Zlob, Mist, Badtrans, and several serious rootkit infections.

When I uninstalled them all and installed PlaceboAV ProPlus it gave my PC a clean bill of health on the first run. How's that for disinfection efficiency?

PlaceboAV never needs updates, and it won't slow down your PC because it uses no CPU resources.

The good news is that the 5 years ProPlus license will be free! (419 Software requires a notarized copy of your birth certificate and your credit card details and bank account password for identification purposes only.)

Best of all, if you join the beta team you get a bonus of 100,000 shares in the company for only $10,000.

edit
My friends and business associates keep telling me I'm sending them infected emails, but they're still using the same old crappy AVs I got rid of, so what would they know?

:)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20890846 Sat, 02 Aug 2008 21:04:54 EDT Re: PlaceboAV - any good? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20890774 SnowyOne :

said by Oleg

:

I do not see why someone would want to download apps automatically i know i like to chose my apps.

Where's the fun in that?? :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20890774 Sat, 02 Aug 2008 20:43:26 EDT Re: PlaceboAV - any good? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20890764 Oleg : I do not see why someone would want to download apps automatically i know i like to chose my apps.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20890764 Sat, 02 Aug 2008 20:41:10 EDT Re: PlaceboAV - any good? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20890741 SnowyOne : It's so light it has more of a toeprint than a footprint.
Easy on the registry too with only 2 keys created
* HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\DOXdesk
* HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\DOXdesk\PlaceboAV]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20890741 Sat, 02 Aug 2008 20:35:04 EDT Re: PlaceboAV - any good? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20890734 Oleg : So this application automatically downloading a lot of crap this makes your computer unsecure even more :o ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20890734 Sat, 02 Aug 2008 20:32:26 EDT Re: PlaceboAV - any good? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20890697 FiOS Dan :

said by SomeFool

What in the world are you talking about?! Your AV DLs and installs things automatically? That sounds dangerous. Exactly what kind of apps are they? :huh:
--
Courage is being scared to death but saddling up anyway.
]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20890697 Sat, 02 Aug 2008 20:21:30 EDT Re: PlaceboAV - any good? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20890608 Phucker :

said by jaykaykay

:

How does this play with other programs such as SuperAntiSpyware and Zone Alarm Security Suite? Any known problems?

are you serious?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20890608 Sat, 02 Aug 2008 19:53:20 EDT Re: PlaceboAV - any good? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20890592 SomeFool : I've been using the Pro version for about a year. Tho just a lightly advertised feature, PlaceboAV Pro works in the background, not only searching for free software on the net, but then even installing it automatically. I have gotten so many new apps this way that I haven't yet had time to find out what most of them do. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20890592 Sat, 02 Aug 2008 19:46:02 EDT Re: PlaceboAV - any good? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20890455 Oleg : I still do not think it will offer %100 protection.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20890455 Sat, 02 Aug 2008 19:04:47 EDT Re: PlaceboAV - any good? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20890409 jaykaykay : How does this play with other programs such as SuperAntiSpyware and Zone Alarm Security Suite? Any known problems?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20890409 Sat, 02 Aug 2008 18:55:27 EDT Re: PlaceboAV - any good? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20890333 danny9 :

said by AB

said by Oleg

said by danny9

:

My computer runs the best it has in a long time.
Terrific.
Best find yet.
Can't wait to try the firewall. :)

This is all you use?

He probably got the 'Pro' version, Oleg.

Yes, LOL, the Pro version. :)
--
VoicePulse 07/29/04]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20890333 Sat, 02 Aug 2008 18:37:47 EDT Re: PlaceboAV - any good? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20890315 AB :

said by Oleg

said by danny9

:

My computer runs the best it has in a long time.
Terrific.
Best find yet.
Can't wait to try the firewall. :)

This is all you use?

He probably got the 'Pro' version, Oleg.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20890315 Sat, 02 Aug 2008 18:33:35 EDT Re: PlaceboAV - any good? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20889698 Oleg :

said by danny9

:

My computer runs the best it has in a long time.
Terrific.
Best find yet.
Can't wait to try the firewall. :)

This is all you use?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20889698 Sat, 02 Aug 2008 15:59:18 EDT Re: PlaceboAV - any good? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20888814 danny9 : My computer runs the best it has in a long time.
Terrific.
Best find yet.
Can't wait to try the firewall. :)
--
VoicePulse 07/29/04]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20888814 Sat, 02 Aug 2008 12:20:24 EDT Re: PlaceboAV - any good? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20888430 mikenolan7 : It's good stuff. I use it, always run as admin, wrote a script that automatically clicks yes on all pop ups, and the scans tell me I have never had any malware. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20888430 Sat, 02 Aug 2008 10:46:46 EDT Re: PlaceboAV - any good? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20888150 Cudni :

said by dave

:

Should I install it?

I heard there will be PlaceboFW too soon

Cudni
--
"Mercifully, he hit him with the soft end of the pistol."
Help yourself so God can help you.
Microsoft MVP, 2006 - 2008]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20888150 Sat, 02 Aug 2008 09:28:41 EDT PlaceboAV - any good? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20888077 dave : I saw this new antivirus software called PlaceboAV. Should I install it?

»www.doxdesk.com/updates/2008.htm···-placebo]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20888077 Sat, 02 Aug 2008 08:59:54 EDT