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fiberguyMy views are my own.Premium
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Re: Deal with gas prices first and other imporant issues. I was in those lines too, and just because we don't have lines doesn't mean there isn't a crisis.
I pitty you for your way of thinking, I really do.. sorry. But, nothing turns on a dime. Oil is not an infinite resource and it will get harder to get as time goes on. Further, anything you want to change takes YEARS to change - it's not an over night thing.
We SHOULD have changed our ways BACK in the 1970's.. we didn't, however. In the 30 years that passed we could have been COMPLETELY off oil had we worked on it then.
There are many ways to classify an energy crisis. For one, it's not all about "GAS".. to think that it's all about the pump simply shows your lack of knowledge on the reality of what's happening. Oil is not used simply for gas. Oil is used in plastics and many other products. You do realize how much plastics are in our lives alone, right? Second, yes, gas itself at a high price when an economy can't handle such a surge IS causing a crisis.. it effects the economy.. or didn't you notice? I don't think I need to tell you how much fuel/oil causes EVERYTHING to rise do I?
Further, about why we export oil... you DO know there are various types of oil produced out of the ground, right? Sweet, etc. The oil we export largely does not get used by the U.S. .. Most of it goes to Russia in addition to other countries. The whole "why do we export our oil" statement is commonly mis-applied. Further, we don't export "gas"... we export OIL. There IS a difference.
You state that we're wasting time trying to drill for more oil which won't have an affect for 5 or 10 years.. you're completely wrong - those are talking points. And either way, we DO have the fuel.. the crisis is in the system itself. Even if we didn't drill for today, what do you want tomorrow? Hydrogen cars? Any idea how fast that is going to come? It's going to take about 10 to 20 years to turn over the fleet of cars we have in the U.S. anyway. Further, you also fail to realize the economic impact of people that DO have the largest bulk of cars right now.. A 2007 GMS Sierra 2wd truck that retailed for $38K was worth only $17k 9 months later.. Can't simply buy another vehicle.. can't simply trade it in or even sell it unless you're willing to front the $21K to pay it off, OR roll it into a new car, which no finance company will do.
Shall we go into the housing crisis that was created by the feds the last few years?
If you don't think we're in an energy crisis right now, you're sadly mistaken.. this time, it's far bigger than another country turning off the spigot... the crisis is the fact that we haven't had an energy policy in years, AND, the economy is on the brink. We have two parties that don't understand IMMEDIATE relief, rather, they're going to stand each other down and wait.. it doesn't affect them anyway.. they can afford $4 gas.. they can hold out while many Americans can't... We should have had more nuclear energy plants built.. cleaner coal plants.. rather, right now, the dems are sitting on 40 and 50 year old fears (I guess they can't read up on technology anymore) that this will kill is. Rather, ask any of them and they'll sit back and say no to off shore, no to alaska, no to oil shale in the mid section of the US (which is an INCREDIBLE fuel source) and no to nuclear.. rather, they want all wind and solar.. like that's going to fuel our country.
And, if you think that we have fuel, it just cost more to get it.. um.. how many small businesses have to go under and how high does unemployment have to go and how many people have to FURTHER lose their homes and how much more economic disaster will it take before you realize that there is a problem?
(Hint: the biggest problem is that oil is the current bubble.. if you know anything about the economy and the history of it, there is generally always something that is the latest "hot" buy.. money people are like locust, they all swarm on one thing, devastate things in the process and then move on to the next.. In recent times, it was the dot.com, then housing, now oil.)
edit: sorry, some of my post refers to another reply as well. | |
| There are many ways to classify an energy crisis. For one, it's not all about "GAS".. to think that it's all about the pump simply shows your lack of knowledge on the reality of what's happening. Oil is not used simply for gas. Oil is used in plastics and many other products. You do realize how much plastics are in our lives alone, right? Second, yes, gas itself at a high price when an economy can't handle such a surge IS causing a crisis.. it effects the economy.. or didn't you notice? I don't think I need to tell you how much fuel/oil causes EVERYTHING to rise do I? Actually, I probably know more about oil that you do. I grew up around several refineries, near a massive Dow plant and my father worked for a company that produced chemicals critical to the plastics industry. I'm one of those people that believes that using fossil fuels for transportation is stupid because it is moronic to be burning a valuable resources critical to thousands of products just so people can park their fat asses at the drive through window, etc.
The reason I picked on gas is not because I view energy only in terms of gas, but because the majority of America believes that there is a crisis solely because they now have to pay more to fill up their gas guzzlers or sell it to buy a car with decent fuel economy.
You state that we're wasting time trying to drill for more oil which won't have an affect for 5 or 10 years.. you're completely wrong - those are talking points. Not true at all. This being an oil producing area, there are plenty of petroleum and chemical engineers and they will all tell you that you don't just through a rig up and start producing oil overnight. It takes 5 to 10 years because you have to explore, acquire the necessary rights and permits, construct your platform, sink the platform, connect the platform to the distribution network and then drill, all with the possibility that you hit a dry hole.
Shall we go into the housing crisis that was created by the feds the last few years? By the feds ?! Try irresponsible home buyers and mortgage companies with financial practices that I liken to teen kids with mom and dad's credit card. People were buying houses left and right that they knew they could NEVER afford. Lenders were giving out loans that they knew people wouldn't be able to pay.
If you don't think we're in an energy crisis right now, you're sadly mistaken.. this time, it's far bigger than another country turning off the spigot... the crisis is the fact that we haven't had an energy policy in years, AND, the economy is on the brink. The energy "crisis" is an issue that comes about due purely to growing world demand for oil and gas. America is finally feeling the effects the market and speculators can have on a product. And for a country with such a massive hard on for the "free market", people should realize that the increase in fuel prices is in large part due to market demand increasing on a product that is finite.
And, if you think that we have fuel, it just cost more to get it.. um.. how many small businesses have to go under and how high does unemployment have to go and how many people have to FURTHER lose their homes and how much more economic disaster will it take before you realize that there is a problem? I'm keenly aware of the problems and where and how they came about.
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