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Please!

Copying without the authorization of the author is illegal don't you think.
If I go to blockbuster, and I take a laptop, I can make a copy of the dvd and that would be stupid and illegal.

So my point, it doesn't matter if the original is in possession of its owner, you are making a copy WITHOUTH authorization.

reply to dadkins
Dadkins, don't waste your breath arguing with these people
that call filesharing or copying for personal use piracy,
or stealing.

They're so hopelessly brainwashed by the MAFIAA propaganda
that's been fed to them that correcting them on it is like
talking to a brick wall.

Best to just ignore them.

Though it is funny sometimes to see the trolls get all
riled up when they get ridiculed.
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"The trouble with computers, of course, is that they are very sophisticated idiots." - Doctor Who (from Robot)

I always hope that common sense will catch on...

Thanks Doctor Four!
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reply to dadkins
Yeah sharing is not illegal. But sharing a "copy" is illegal.
When you share your stuff, let say your dvds, you are sharing the actual cds and that's completely legal. But sharing files is diffrent, you are making copies and sharing.

reply to ja2007123
But, umm, that's EXACTLY what I did. I got a blockbuster pass, a very nice notebook, a 500GB external hard drive. On Sat Morning, I would go in and get 2 movies, sit in my car, rip them (about 10 minutes to copy each DVD), and then walk in, trade back my movies, and repeat, ALL DAY LONG. Guess what, what I did was PERFECTLY LEGAL. I was choosing to space/time shift the content I LEGALLY ACQUIRED! I didn't 'pirate' the movies, I rented them. In about 8 hours, I copied about 50 movies every saturday.
If you listen to the **ASSASSes, what I did was illegal. But, it's NOT. I PAID FOR THE MOVIE. I GET TO WATCH IT WHEN I WANT TO.

Look at it this way. What are you 'getting' when you rent a movie? Are you getting the media? If so, then I have the media, and I can do what I want to with it. The fact that it's media, and I RETURNED it, that's not theft.

Are you renting the 'right to watch it'. Well, that's what I'm doing too! I'm watching it, just not on their terms. If I sat in my car, and ran the DVD at 20x speed to watch it, would I be breaking the law? That's exactly what I did, I just chose to watch it at regular speed at a later date.

In any case, the manager knew exactly what I was doing, and he DIDN'T CARE. Not...even...a....little.
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Except that you're not the owner of the media when you rent it.

You paid to rent the movie and you're entitled to watch it during the rental period. When you return the disk, you're done.

reply to dadkins

said by dadkins:

said by ja2007123:

Copying without the authorization of the author is illegal don't you think.
If I go to blockbuster, and I take a laptop, I can make a copy of the dvd and that would be stupid and illegal.

So my point, it doesn't matter if the original is in possession of its owner, you are making a copy WITHOUTH authorization.

There is no theft! No one stole anything.

It is Copyright Infringement at best! Nothing more!

Bring your scenario to my house.
Grab________ DVD or Blu-ray.
Knock yourself out!
Now what?
I paid money for my discs.
If you ask me, I have no problem with you having a copy - of any media I own.
CDs
DVDs
Blu-rays
Games
Applications
Insert data here ___________

Since I allowed you access to my library, you did not steal anything... did you?

You are not a pirate, you are not a thief.
Even if you were to look at it from the point of view of the author - it is not theft!
*I* would never call you a thief - you didn't steal anything! You copied it!

All my childhood growing up I was always told to share...
Want one?

EDIT: Got VCR? Got DVR? Do you know what they do? They copy.
Does that also make you a thief?

I have the whole 1st season of Robot Chicken on one of my HDDs - part of season 2.
Did I "Steal" them?

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reply to Doctor Four

reply to dadkins

said by dadkins:

said by ja2007123:

Copying without the authorization of the author is illegal don't you think.
If I go to blockbuster, and I take a laptop, I can make a copy of the dvd and that would be stupid and illegal.

So my point, it doesn't matter if the original is in possession of its owner, you are making a copy WITHOUTH authorization.

There is no theft! No one stole anything.

It is Copyright Infringement at best! Nothing more!

Bring your scenario to my house.
Grab________ DVD or Blu-ray.
Knock yourself out!
Now what?
I paid money for my discs.
If you ask me, I have no problem with you having a copy - of any media I own.
CDs
DVDs
Blu-rays
Games
Applications
Insert data here ___________

Since I allowed you access to my library, you did not steal anything... did you?

You are not a pirate, you are not a thief.
Even if you were to look at it from the point of view of the author - it is not theft!
*I* would never call you a thief - you didn't steal anything! You copied it!

All my childhood growing up I was always told to share...
Want one?

EDIT: Got VCR? Got DVR? Do you know what they do? They copy.
Does that also make you a thief?

I have the whole 1st season of Robot Chicken on one of my HDDs - part of season 2.
Did I "Steal" them?

reply to captain456

Re: Please!

reply to jjoshua
So, using your logic, DVR's are illegal too? I mean, I'm entitled to watch the show when it's broadcast, but if I record it, I don't have the right to watch it later? Please enlighten me. I rented it, I watched it. What if I brought it home and recorded it on my DVR, would that be stealing too? I mean, my DVR can record a movie from HBO for later watching, and the DVR is no different than a specialized computer. The fact of the matter is I paid for HBO, and I have the RIGHT TO TIME SHIFT, and the RIGHT TO SPACE SHIFT (see betamax case), so how is what I'm doing any different? I PAID for the rental. What if I deleted the movie after i watched it on my computer, would that make it ok? (umm, yeah, I'll do that).
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reply to captain456

said by captain456 :

said by dadkins:

said by ja2007123:

Copying without the authorization of the author is illegal don't you think.
If I go to blockbuster, and I take a laptop, I can make a copy of the dvd and that would be stupid and illegal.

So my point, it doesn't matter if the original is in possession of its owner, you are making a copy WITHOUTH authorization.

There is no theft! No one stole anything.

It is Copyright Infringement at best! Nothing more!

Bring your scenario to my house.
Grab________ DVD or Blu-ray.
Knock yourself out!
Now what?
I paid money for my discs.
If you ask me, I have no problem with you having a copy - of any media I own.
CDs
DVDs
Blu-rays
Games
Applications
Insert data here ___________

Since I allowed you access to my library, you did not steal anything... did you?

You are not a pirate, you are not a thief.
Even if you were to look at it from the point of view of the author - it is not theft!
*I* would never call you a thief - you didn't steal anything! You copied it!

All my childhood growing up I was always told to share...
Want one?

EDIT: Got VCR? Got DVR? Do you know what they do? They copy.
Does that also make you a thief?

I have the whole 1st season of Robot Chicken on one of my HDDs - part of season 2.
Did I "Steal" them?

no I'm not in the industry and yes I've done the same thing myself I just am man enough to admit it is not right and I don't have to lie to myself and others to sleep at night.

reply to dadkins

said by dadkins:

"Pirated", "stolen", "thieves"...

When someone is seen/caught raping and killing someone then stealing their media, then we can call them a "pirate".

If one copies a movie, the original is still in the possession of it's owner - nothing was "stolen"

Until someone actually goes into BlockBuster and walks out with a disc or discs, they are not a thief.

Call them what they are - "Copyright Infringers".
Not as dramatic, is it?

Pretty soon, borrowing a DVD will be considered illegal/stealing/piracy.
What then?

How about, only YOU can watch YOUR DVDs.
I have a stack of discs.
You come over for a visit.
You see a disc or three that you would like to watch.
Out of fear of prosecution or lawsuit, I refuse too allow you.

You did not pay for it, you are stealing if you view a movie without paying for it!!!1

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