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Vchat20
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Re: Will it be cheaper than renting a DVR from cable company

Wow...Well, I stand corrected then. If it was that bad around here, I woulda just said screw it and made sure the VCR was programmed and live with the poor quality.

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Personally, I wanna know where you are getting your $10-$20 a month per box figures from. Quote me some real numbers here if you will.

Here in Time Warner territory a 'DVR' charge is only made once per household. Then it's a generic 'set top' charge per box. Right now in our region it's running about $6.95 for the dvr fee and $7.65 per set-top. While still a bit high, it's certainly not as astronomical as you think. So if we had 3 dvr's, it would be $6.95+$7.65+$7.65+$7.65=$29.90/mo compared to your $6.95+$7.65+$6.95+$7.65+$6.95+$7.65=$43.80/mo
That's great Time Warner is so nice... Charter charges $15 for DVR Service (per DVR) plus $5 per set top box. So a DVR costs $20 PER DVR. No discounts for additional DVR's.

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RickNY
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said by Vchat20 See Profile :

So if we had 3 dvr's, it would be $6.95+$7.65+$7.65+$7.65=$29.90/mo compared to your $6.95+$7.65+$6.95+$7.65+$6.95+$7.65=$43.80/mo
Cablevision charges $9.95 per month, per DVR plus $6.50 per month for the box rental, making the cost per DVR $16.45 with no discount whatsoever for additional DVRs


Vchat20
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Personally, I wanna know where you are getting your $10-$20 a month per box figures from. Quote me some real numbers here if you will.

Here in Time Warner territory a 'DVR' charge is only made once per household. Then it's a generic 'set top' charge per box. Right now in our region it's running about $6.95 for the dvr fee and $7.65 per set-top. While still a bit high, it's certainly not as astronomical as you think. So if we had 3 dvr's, it would be $6.95+$7.65+$7.65+$7.65=$29.90/mo compared to your $6.95+$7.65+$6.95+$7.65+$6.95+$7.65=$43.80/mo
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how do you figure? it would be just like VOD. It does not use the Internet. The Cable co's VOD and and this would not touch the actual internet.


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and with VOD (which is essentially what this is) we AGAIN have problems of over-saturation of the cable/fiber channels for available bandwidth...
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disc

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said by MrMoody See Profile :

Then obviously the DVR hogs who are causing congestion transferring way more than they could possibly ever watch have to be stopped by going to a bill-by-the-byte system.
What's good for the goose is good for the gander, eh.

I have to imagine this will eventually become an issue for providers. Would they use monthly caps to regulate peak busy hour TV viewing?

Joe12345678

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said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

This might be interesting depending on what they charge per month for the service. A DVR can run anywhere from $10 to $20 per month for each DVR from a cable company. But a hosted server could be used from multiple TVs without having a DVR on each TV.

It would also depend on whether they allow fast forwarding thru commercials or not. A service that doesn't do that would be pretty worthless for most people.

Also with a networked DVR service, you are subject to the same problems people have with VOD - and that is all the available channels available at a node for VOD can be used up by neighbors and you may get an error msg that you can't play back your recording when you want to. Of course, a good deployment of SDV could mitigate this problem.

It may be PPV like some VOD content is and there will system limits like channel over load and more.

Also will movies on free channels be able to be put on this or will you be forced to use VOD PPV for them?


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I doubt it, they'll save on purchasing the 500 dollar units, and they'll still squeeze you for money.

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said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

Also with a networked DVR service, you are subject to the same problems people have with VOD - and that is all the available channels available at a node for VOD can be used up by neighbors and you may get an error msg that you can't play back your recording when you want to.
Then obviously the DVR hogs who are causing congestion transferring way more than they could possibly ever watch have to be stopped by going to a bill-by-the-byte system.
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said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

Also with a networked DVR service, you are subject to the same problems people have with VOD - and that is all the available channels available at a node for VOD can be used up by neighbors and you may get an error msg that you can't play back your recording when you want to. Of course, a good deployment of SDV could mitigate this problem.
True, but the times that service may be out due to whatever It would be nice to know the program is still being recorded. Also would this allow for more recordings at once?


sousademiami

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I would image you would probably end up with a scenario where the price didn't drop but you got to use the recorded content on all TVs. A win-win scenario (you get "more DVRs" and they make more money)
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Dogfather
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reply to TKJunkMail
You think that savings will be passed on to the customer? I don't.


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  This might be interesting depending on what they charge per month for the service. A DVR can run anywhere from $10 to $20 per month for each DVR from a cable company. But a hosted server could be used from multiple TVs without having a DVR on each TV.

It would also depend on whether they allow fast forwarding thru commercials or not. A service that doesn't do that would be pretty worthless for most people.

Also with a networked DVR service, you are subject to the same problems people have with VOD - and that is all the available channels available at a node for VOD can be used up by neighbors and you may get an error msg that you can't play back your recording when you want to. Of course, a good deployment of SDV could mitigate this problem.

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