Matt
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Jamestown, NC
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Re: I pick data
said by wentlanc  :I don't disagree with you there. But the people who got screwed with subprime mortgages would not likely be saved by lowering their cable bill by $20, or eliminating it and saving $70. cw I agree, but I was more pointing out that the people who are in that situation probably wouldn't cancel their cable ... they probably aren't willing to sacrifice. They'd rather have someone else bail them out or pay their own way. Sacrifice is hard, hand-outs aren't. (Look at the Home Makeover family as a perfect example.)
I bought a house two years ago and my credit wasn't the best. They tried to throw all sort of "creative" financing at me so I could get the house I really wanted, but I stopped myself and actually researched. I consulted with friends who own houses, read online about the different loan types they were throwing at me. I wound up with a $50k cheaper house - with a more expensive 30-year fixed mortgage - but there won't be any surprises and I know my payment will be easier to make over time and my interest rate won't budge.
I guess what I'm getting at, is I can sympathize with the people who were taken advantage of, but they bear just as much responsibility for letting themselves get into the situation as the predatory lenders who took advantage of them. |
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wentlanc
You Can't Fix Dumb..
join:2003-07-30
Maineville, OH | reply to Matt
I don't disagree with you there. But the people who got screwed with subprime mortgages would not likely be saved by lowering their cable bill by $20, or eliminating it and saving $70.
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Matt
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said by wentlanc :Why is it that it's ok for people to lose their homes, and have a hard time making ends meet from month to month, when these gluttons are making profits quarter over quarter? cw Perhaps they should cancel their cable TV and focus on paying their mortgage/rent and other necessary bills? Just a thought.
I'm sure that would cut into their profit margins. |
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wentlanc
You Can't Fix Dumb..
join:2003-07-30
Maineville, OH
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said by tenpin784 :said by wentlanc :And tack on ESPN, ESPN2, MTV, MTV2, VH1, WE, Oxygen, SAOP, and all of the music channels..... Ok, so with digital cable, you free'd up a whopping 2 channels. All those channels you listed, you can throw on 2 6MHz channels. And that is the whole thing with DOCSIS 3.0....using multiple channels. Do you honestly think that I made my whole list of crap I don't watch? This is why people want ala-cart programming. I can list the channels I do want to get in a very short list. If I could cut my bill in half, I would be happy.
And before anyone goes off on me about how it would kill the media companies... I don't care. This is the economy that we are in. Any money I don't have to spend is a good thing for me, and my kids. Why is it that it's ok for people to lose their homes, and have a hard time making ends meet from month to month, when these gluttons are making profits quarter over quarter?
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wentlanc
You Can't Fix Dumb..
join:2003-07-30
Maineville, OH
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said by ieolus :Sounds like a bit like a conflict of interest.. are they a common carrier ISP or are they a content provider? Both you say? Then we should be talking about a neutral third-party bandwidth provider, free of all this bullshit. Bingo. The minute a company provides internet access, but creates disincentive to another companies similar product via that access, is engaged in anti competitive behavior and should be punished as such. This is precisely why we need the ISP to be a "dumb pipe". To provide internet access. Let the media companies compete on their own merits and products.
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ieolus
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join:2001-06-19
Duluth, GA
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Sounds like a bit like a conflict of interest.. are they a common carrier ISP or are they a content provider?
Both you say? Then we should be talking about a neutral third-party bandwidth provider, free of all this bullshit.
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PDXPLT
join:2003-12-04
Banks, OR
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dear cable company,
please take the bandwidth from HGTV, all the religion channels, all the business channels (CNBC, etc.) and all the shopping channels and add it to my broadband cap.
thnx Why would they want to?
Dave Burnstein's right; this is policy is clearly designed to prevent video downloading from cannabolizing Frontier's own video offerings. They want you to buy premium TV content from them, not off the internet.
Which, as a private company, they're perfectly entitled to do, so long as they disclose the caps. If you don't like it, you can move to an area served by a different provider - isn't that want you guys always say? |
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Matt
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said by tenpin784 :said by wentlanc :And tack on ESPN, ESPN2, MTV, MTV2, VH1, WE, Oxygen, SAOP, and all of the music channels..... Ok, so with digital cable, you free'd up a whopping 2 channels. All those channels you listed, you can throw on 2 6MHz channels. And that is the whole thing with DOCSIS 3.0....using multiple channels. Most DOCSIS nodes are fed off a single 6MHz channel. |
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tenpin784
I Went To The Dark Side?
join:2001-03-30
New Durham, NH | reply to smcallah
Hence I said with digital cable.
Cause I know, we have most of those on analog, except for the music channels, which are on digital. |
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smcallah
join:2004-08-05
Home | reply to tenpin784
Well, technically, in cable systems (most of them) that still have analog channels, some of those channels are on analog too, like ESPN, ESPN2, MTV, VH1... so those right there would free up 4 channels on their own. |
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tenpin784
I Went To The Dark Side?
join:2001-03-30
New Durham, NH
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said by wentlanc :And tack on ESPN, ESPN2, MTV, MTV2, VH1, WE, Oxygen, SAOP, and all of the music channels..... Ok, so with digital cable, you free'd up a whopping 2 channels.
All those channels you listed, you can throw on 2 6MHz channels. And that is the whole thing with DOCSIS 3.0....using multiple channels. |
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nasadude
join:2001-10-05
Rockville, MD | reply to wentlanc
oh crap, I forgot about the music channels; wonder how much those suck up? |
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wentlanc
You Can't Fix Dumb..
join:2003-07-30
Maineville, OH | reply to nasadude
And tack on ESPN, ESPN2, MTV, MTV2, VH1, WE, Oxygen, SAOP, and all of the music channels.....
Give me per byte billing for ALL services crossing the link, and let me pick ONLY what I want too. The base price should be about $5.
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