 | They'll be outta business fast I can hear the mass exodus taking place form this ISP. Way to shoot yourself in the foot Frontier, lol Idiots -- Capturing the images of Colorado »jdebordphoto.com |
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 RacerbobPremium join:2001-06-24 Webster, NY | I think that Frontier is indeed in trouble and is ripe for a takeover. They can't afford to sink money into their outdated infrastructure, so they are trying a limit so that their subscribers don't overload the system. I really think that this is the case. |
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 Doctor OldsI Need A Remedy For What's Ailing Me.Premium,VIP join:2001-04-19 1970 442 W30 kudos:18 | said by Racerbob:I think that Frontier is indeed in trouble and is ripe for a takeover. They can't afford to sink money into their outdated infrastructure, so they are trying a limit so that their subscribers don't overload the system. I really think that this is the case. Then why did they buy ADSL2+ DSLAMs and deploy them in their Remotes and COs? That was not cheap and now instead of 1.5 and 3.0 they offer 10.0 and possibly higher speeds. It sure does not make a bit of sense.
And if they are wanting to be bought out, it is stupid to implement a new restrictive Byte CAP in there TOS/AUP that will reduce their subscriber count. That makes them look less attractive to potential buyers while the mass exodus continues from their service. -- Whats the point of owning a supercar if you cant scare yourself stupid from time to time? |
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 fiberguyMy views are my own.Premium join:2005-05-20 kudos:3 | reply to HotRodFoto You do realize where Frontier has most of their service, right? (cough cough Rural areas cough) Not many places for people to mass exodus to. Besides, you have NO idea how they came up with 5gb. How do you not know that they ran their numbers and found that (and I'm making this up) that 90% of their business used less than 5gb while the other 10% used quite a bit more. The amount that 10% uses drives up more cost than they produce that it's cheaper to lose them? So while it makes sense for people like use to say "f 5gb"... for the most part, they probably ran the numbers and it won't hurt them.
This is a common mistake people around here make all the time. IF this is what they did, and I'm almost certain they have, then it's the smartest business move ever made by a company in order to save their collective asses. Good for some consumers? no... not at all. However, too, around here, a mass exodus is called on many news stories like this.. and to this date, none have happened. In Frontier's case, there isn't really anyone to mass exodus to. |
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 plat2on1 join:2002-08-21 Hopewell Junction, NY | reply to Doctor Olds said by Doctor Olds:said by Racerbob:I think that Frontier is indeed in trouble and is ripe for a takeover. They can't afford to sink money into their outdated infrastructure, so they are trying a limit so that their subscribers don't overload the system. I really think that this is the case. Then why did they buy ADSL2+ DSLAMs and deploy them in their Remotes and COs? That was not cheap and now instead of 1.5 and 3.0 they offer 10.0 and possibly higher speeds. It sure does not make a bit of sense. And if they are wanting to be bought out, it is stupid to implement a new restrictive Byte CAP in there TOS/AUP that will reduce their subscriber count. That makes them look less attractive to potential buyers while the mass exodus continues from their service. they only offer those speeds in a very small area  |
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 Doctor OldsI Need A Remedy For What's Ailing Me.Premium,VIP join:2001-04-19 1970 442 W30 kudos:18 | reply to fiberguy said by fiberguy:you have NO idea how they came up with 5gb. How do you not know that they ran their numbers and found that (and I'm making this up) that 90% of their business used less than 5gb while the other 10% used quite a bit more. The amount that 10% uses drives up more cost than they produce that it's cheaper to lose them? So while it makes sense for people like use to say "f 5gb"... for the most part, they probably ran the numbers and it won't hurt them. However, too, around here, a mass exodus is called on many news stories like this.. and to this date, none have happened. In Frontier's case, there isn't really anyone to mass exodus to. So far the cap is not enforced. When that happens and a new customer who just signed up for 10 Mbps service or an existing customer that just upgraded from 1.5 Mbps to 10.0 Mbps ADSL2+ sees that they will use that 5 Gb in under a single day if they have multiple family members and they watch Youtube, Veoh, all the Free content at ABC, NBC, CBS, Sci-Fi, NetFlix et al. Then add a couple of game players getting Steam Updates or buying a 4.3 Gig Game DVD online by download from Steam of the latest 1st person shooter only find out they used up the entire months bandwidth in one download.
Hell, dial-up can pull around 12 Gigs in 30 days when you run it 24/7 on a second line so what does that tell you about the reality of the 5 Gig Cap? -- Whats the point of owning a supercar if you cant scare yourself stupid from time to time? |
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 | reply to fiberguy said by fiberguy:You do realize where Frontier has most of their service, right? (cough cough Rural areas cough) Not many places for people to mass exodus to. Besides, you have NO idea how they came up with 5gb. How do you not know that they ran their numbers and found that (and I'm making this up) that 90% of their business used less than 5gb while the other 10% used quite a bit more. The amount that 10% uses drives up more cost than they produce that it's cheaper to lose them? So while it makes sense for people like use to say "f 5gb"... for the most part, they probably ran the numbers and it won't hurt them. This is a common mistake people around here make all the time. IF this is what they did, and I'm almost certain they have, then it's the smartest business move ever made by a company in order to save their collective asses. Good for some consumers? no... not at all. However, too, around here, a mass exodus is called on many news stories like this.. and to this date, none have happened. In Frontier's case, there isn't really anyone to mass exodus to. I don't think it's a common mistake by any means that people make on here all the time. 5GB is ridicules, and people aren't idiots. Even caps for mobile broadband are higher than this, and it doesn't take a mental heavyweight to figure out that the service can run on a desktop. In this day and age, people are more price point conscious than ever before. Sorry but saying that "they ran their numbers and found 90% use 5GB or less?" Are you kidding me? I wanna see one user who uses their connection regularly and stays at 5GB or under. Please show me this. |
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