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bjbrock

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15 GB would be a little fairer. However...

I believe that downloading media content is not what the Internet was designed for. If you want to watch a movie, either pay for the huge load you are putting on the network or go rent it from blockbuster.

An infinite amount of bandwidth would be so wonderful but it is just not the reality of it.


Logan 5
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said by bjbrock:

An infinite amount of bandwidth would be so wonderful but it is just not the reality of it.
How are you inferring that Frontier's customers are asking for/demanding "An infinite amount of Bandwidth" ?

Please clarify because otherwise your comments makes no sense.

All I have to do to be in "violation" of this is download one *.nix DVD based distro and about 4 or 5 1 hour TV shows on the 1st of the month and I've just screwed myself for the rest of the month unless I want a huge cable bill at the end of the month with overage charges and penalties tacked on for spite....

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Cars weren't originally designed to go 65 MPH either but technology evolved to meet the needs and expectations of consumers.

Electric Transmission Systems weren't originally designed to allow power transfers from Michigan to Florida but after FERC Orders 888 and 889 it became possible.

The internet may not have originally been designed for that type of data load (the original data rates in the DARPA days were 56K I believe), however it doesn't mean it never can. It's a scalable architecture and technology pushes ever forward.
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Just out of sheer curiousity, I'm running a bandwidth meter on my main computer, which does no p2p.

I want to see how much bandwidth I consume, minus my p2p use. Just web, email, online games (patches included), and whatever other incidental usage occurs. The program I am using is smart enough to separate LAN and WAN traffic, so shuffling files around my network won't pollute the data.

I've been running it since July 30th, and am up to 177.5MB down, 220.7MB combined as of this moment.

Edit: and of course, just after I say that, I become suspicious of why the numbers are so low. They indeed are inaccurate, as most browser traffic is directed through the privoxy running on my linux box, causing it to count as LAN traffic. Woops. Reset!

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said by bjbrock:

I believe that downloading media content is not what the Internet was designed for.
Yeah, someone spouted this crap and then the apologists started repeating it. Compuserve had images on it before there was a commercial Internet, so the Internet has had "media" on it literally since day one. The worldwide web was designed to have multimedia also from day one. The whole IDEA of giving consumers broadband was to allow better handling of multimedia. Otherwise, dialup is plenty.
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You are correct about what the internet IS for.. to be honest, it's for any legal purpose. However, to counter you, sorry to say, no where did anyone say that the internet was always going to be for one single price either. Again, another misconception in the lines of thinking.

I will support you on the argument against their PR department (not marketing, but PR) that tries to paint how 5gb is just fine.. because there is NO way they can justify that 5gb is reasonable for a base.. either that, or the overage needs to bee something "reasonable"..



Racerbob
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We've done over 20 gigs here in 4 days. I think that we could deal with a 150 Gb monthly cap.



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said by bjbrock:

I believe that downloading media content is not what the Internet was designed for. If you want to watch a movie, either pay for the huge load you are putting on the network or go rent it from blockbuster.

An infinite amount of bandwidth would be so wonderful but it is just not the reality of it.
The internet is evolving. Video is here and just getting even more friendly to the masses. I am talking about legal video content free or paid.
Who knows what the internet will be used for tomorrow.

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i can burn up 5gb in a month several times over without media or file sharing. between WoW and Ventrilo...
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said by Racerbob:

We've done over 20 gigs here in 4 days. I think that we could deal with a 150 Gb monthly cap.
With p2p or without?

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