MysticGogeta
The Robot Devil
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join:2005-03-14
League City, TX
clubs: | reply to DrModem
Re: That $800 T1 Line
No kidding I would prefer 1.5/1.5 with zero caps then that crap.
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meinmd
@verizon.com | 5meg plan for probably $300 a month...no thanks.
And with that $300 a month you get caps, 1200ms latency, horrible tech support and horrible speeds during peak hours. |
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adams_aj
join:2004-08-31
Smithville, MO
2 edits | The on-board switching, has the possiblity of cutting that latency, possibly in half.
Also, a lot of you are saying "no thanks". But do realize, that this is only the next best thing to dialup--which is still a lot of folks' only other alternative.
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digitalfreak
join:2005-12-09
49533 | Sorry, but I'd go with mobile broadband before this. If that wasn't available, I'd still stick with dial-up. |
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GPSF0L
@cox.net | reply to adams_aj
So what you're saying is, since they have a monopoly for high-speed, they can charge those folks whatever they want and put whatever restrictions they want--- I see. |
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keyboard5684
join:2001-08-01
Youngsville, PA
 ·Teliax VOIP
 ·WestPAnet Inc.
 ·WestPAnet Inc. CA..
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Yep, a T1 line, even in my remote area, is about $480 a month. I would certainly take that T1 line over satellite. Plus, the T1 is not going to cap me, latency will be less than 20 ms, I can get almost as many IPs as I want, there just are way more advantages to the T1.
If you are even considering this high tier package, probably because you are rural, consider a T1. The price is more but advantages are far more. Plus, the speeds will actually seem far better than what you get from satellite. Yes, they say 3 megs (5 megs, sorry) but in reality I doubt you will really appreciate it. The "Feeling" on a T1 line while surfing and then sitting on a satellite connection (even VSAT systems) are completely noticeable.
That is another thing. The heading seems to make everyone think there is just HughesNet or WildBlue for satellite broadband, that is not true. If you want to, you can install a VSAT system, use the BGAN network, there area a lot of options usually only used by businesses or people that really travel to places like the jungle, but it is an option which is forgotten. They do not advertise much because
A. They do not need to, they have plenty of customers.
B. Those systems do not want to overload anything like the residential services do.
But still, in most areas (at least here) it makes no difference where you live, a T1 HAS to be run if you order it, and the ILEC HAS to deliver it, part of the negatives to being an ILEC (the ILEC runs the local loop but order from the carrier like ATT or Sprint, or whatever, but the ILEC has to put in that loop) |
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openbox9
join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA | reply to GPSF0L
said by GPSF0L :
they can charge those folks whatever they want and put whatever restrictions they want--- I see. If the limitation of the service capability demands it, yes. |
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jester121
Premium
join:2003-08-09
Lake Zurich, IL | reply to GPSF0L
Since it's their satellite, YES.
Feel free to build and launch your own satellite and offer whatever you want for $19.99/month.  |
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fiberguy
My views are my own.
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join:2005-05-20
1 edit | reply to digitalfreak
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fiberguy
My views are my own.
Premium
join:2005-05-20
1 edit | reply to GPSF0L
said by GPSF0L :
So what you're saying is, since they have a monopoly for high-speed, they can charge those folks whatever they want and put whatever restrictions they want--- I see. Glad you do.. but do you really? Where is the "monopoly" that you speak of?
Google is your friend.. "satellite internet" - and then also look at »en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monopoly ... check it out.
void of all that.. see the other two replies above mine as well. |
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hottboiinnc
ME
join:2003-10-15
Cleveland, OH
·Time Warner Cable
·buckeye cable
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have you considered the install that most T1s would cost some people? especially if they had to build out a new line or something. install can almost tripple the price of what the T1 would be. And have you ever seen how high they can go in some rural areas especially if the only one that can provide access to the area is a Co-Op or some small provider that doesn't give a damn? |
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keyboard5684
join:2001-08-01
Youngsville, PA
·Teliax VOIP
·WestPAnet Inc.
·WestPAnet Inc. CA..
| I agree, to a point. But myself having installed T1s to many areas both Alltell (well, Windstream now) and Verizon did not charge distance/mileage.
However there where install fees which could be eliminated with a 2 year contract.
Frame-relay for some reason does have a mileage fee. Not sure why, set tariff rates in the state of PA maybe?
You are in Ohio so it may be a completely different story, but here, no real install fee problem. This is a very rural area so they do have to install a lot of repeaters (one a mile about I think is the rate) but in many cases they are already there (the telco just adds a card). |
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number3fan
Number3fan
join:2003-10-15 | reply to adams_aj
or you could move to an area that actually has broadband, like i did. NO dsl, NO thanks.............
not an option for everyone, just some of us......... |
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dvd536
as Mr. Pink as they come
Premium
join:2001-04-27
Phoenix, AZ
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said by keyboard5684  :Yep, a T1 line, even in my remote area, is about $480 a month. I would certainly take that T1 line over satellite. Including loop charge?
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hottboiinnc
ME
join:2003-10-15
Cleveland, OH | reply to keyboard5684
Ohio is different VZ and ATT both here normally charge an install. If they do not charge mileage it has to be built into the price for them. Especially in the more rural areas that are miles away from the nearest fiber line they own. |
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