 keyboard5684
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| reply to MysticGogeta Re: That $800 T1 Line
Yep, a T1 line, even in my remote area, is about $480 a month. I would certainly take that T1 line over satellite. Plus, the T1 is not going to cap me, latency will be less than 20 ms, I can get almost as many IPs as I want, there just are way more advantages to the T1.
If you are even considering this high tier package, probably because you are rural, consider a T1. The price is more but advantages are far more. Plus, the speeds will actually seem far better than what you get from satellite. Yes, they say 3 megs (5 megs, sorry) but in reality I doubt you will really appreciate it. The "Feeling" on a T1 line while surfing and then sitting on a satellite connection (even VSAT systems) are completely noticeable.
That is another thing. The heading seems to make everyone think there is just HughesNet or WildBlue for satellite broadband, that is not true. If you want to, you can install a VSAT system, use the BGAN network, there area a lot of options usually only used by businesses or people that really travel to places like the jungle, but it is an option which is forgotten. They do not advertise much because A. They do not need to, they have plenty of customers. B. Those systems do not want to overload anything like the residential services do.
But still, in most areas (at least here) it makes no difference where you live, a T1 HAS to be run if you order it, and the ILEC HAS to deliver it, part of the negatives to being an ILEC (the ILEC runs the local loop but order from the carrier like ATT or Sprint, or whatever, but the ILEC has to put in that loop) |
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 hottboiinnc ME
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| have you considered the install that most T1s would cost some people? especially if they had to build out a new line or something. install can almost tripple the price of what the T1 would be. And have you ever seen how high they can go in some rural areas especially if the only one that can provide access to the area is a Co-Op or some small provider that doesn't give a damn? |
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 keyboard5684
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| I agree, to a point. But myself having installed T1s to many areas both Alltell (well, Windstream now) and Verizon did not charge distance/mileage.
However there where install fees which could be eliminated with a 2 year contract.
Frame-relay for some reason does have a mileage fee. Not sure why, set tariff rates in the state of PA maybe?
You are in Ohio so it may be a completely different story, but here, no real install fee problem. This is a very rural area so they do have to install a lot of repeaters (one a mile about I think is the rate) but in many cases they are already there (the telco just adds a card). |
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  dvd536 as Mr. Pink as they come Premium join:2001-04-27 Phoenix, AZ
| reply to keyboard5684 said by keyboard5684 :Yep, a T1 line, even in my remote area, is about $480 a month. I would certainly take that T1 line over satellite. Including loop charge? -- When I gez aju zavateh na nalechoo more new yonooz tonigh molinigh - Ken Lee |
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 hottboiinnc ME
join:2003-10-15 Cleveland, OH | reply to keyboard5684 Ohio is different VZ and ATT both here normally charge an install. If they do not charge mileage it has to be built into the price for them. Especially in the more rural areas that are miles away from the nearest fiber line they own. |
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