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Re: no more satellite radio competition, why not tv?

said by Ammler See Profile :

I'm not buying that. I believe the same argument Sirius and XM used to merge (competition from terrestrial radio, CDs, MP3s, etc.), can be applied here as well (competition from cable, terrestrial tv, internet, iTunes, dvd, blue-ray, etc.).
so much

Not so much, xm and sirius used am/fm as their reason yes, however when they tried this merger in 01 they used Cable TV and terrestrial tv and it got shot down, chances are FCC isn't going to let them happen, remember terrestrial tv doesnt get you PPV and HBO and the sorts, and people who live in areas were there isn't cable (yes there are still these places) Are aloud to have a choice in who they pick, remember these are the only 2 players in the park on this one, and a monopoly will screw these folks out of a choice of who has got the best deal.


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said by KrK See Profile :

Is DTV finally making money? It lost money for years.
This is according to news items about their latest results "profit up 10%". Dish Network's profit was up 50%.

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reply to robl27
heya rob,

cant say about the fta stuff but you know, dish size has nothing to do with service fade. if you got crappy service, it is due to the fact that your technician was lazy, dumb, or high. take your pick. either way, your dish was not peaked in correctly.

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reply to DaveNJ
Profitability has nothing to do with it. There is competition issues at hand.. They have cable and phone to compete with, and sometimes small muni systems.

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reply to MagicVuedoo
HUH? Dish size DOES affect rain-fade. Larger dishes, while do experience rain fade on a lower powered sat system, larger dishes will sustain longer. However, I've installed and maintained MANY dishes as a vendor and had signal in the 90's that still experienced rain fade.

Also, with the drive to install more and more dishes, techs are allowed to install dishes with laxed conditions.. I've seen dishes pointed right through trees, and I've seen them pointed at another building, all with reduced signal.. can they install with lower signal levels now over the past? yes.. do you see more fade? yes.

Another example.. in Iowa, a friend's house, he has Dish Net.. if you've ever been in rural Iowa there really isn't anything to block the line of sight. Even with mid 90's, a SLIGHT, and I do mean slight, rain storm has caused fade.

Lazy, dumb or high.. that's a hiring issue.. but it's not 100% of the reason rain/snow (we'll just say storm) fade happens.


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reply to KrK
The dish was on the front of the property, and the trees shoot up a solid 40-50 feet over the house (excluding the older, taller trees).

The pole thing might have worked... if it were 100 feet tall. The back yard is all of 30 feet deep. When I say backs up to woods, I mean it in the most literal sense possible.

Thanks for the tips, though.


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CopperMonkey

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reply to robl27
said by robl27 See Profile :

the service fades out in the rain due to the fact the dishes are too small
Wha-what? Have the system re-installed. Rain should NEVER cause satellite TV to go out if it's installed properly. The ONLY weather that's ever knocked out my DirecTV is snow, and that's because the snow packs in on the dish, obstructing the feedhorn. This is the biggest misconception of satellite TV. I can see hurricanes, tornadoes, or thunderstorms killing the TV, but not rain. Never.

rid0617

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reply to robl27
I've had free to air for almost 8 years now. Will never be without it again. While there are a lot of foreign channels, galaxy 10 has a pile of network TV on the KU side.


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reply to KrK
I wonder if rain fade happens more up north? I have my dish on my roof with a very clear view of the southern sky and I get rain fade for just a minute or two every time a heavy lightning or rain storm passes the sky to the south.

NetLarry

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reply to KrK
DirecTV does have bundles of a sort; they have partnered with Verizon (Triple play - phone, DSL and DirecTV). But it's true that won't last long-term; Verizon only uses it as a stopgap measure to prevent subscriber loss to the cable companies. Once FIOS is expanded to a certain coverage percentage we can look for Verizon to end their partnership (and customer discount). From what I've heard from Verizon contacted call center employees, they've already made the bundle an "honor do not offer" deal.


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said by robl27 See Profile :

if i want satellite, i'd get a free to air system that covers both the c and ku spectrum.. over 500 channels there and FREE

-Rob
Good idea if you have the area to place a few 4 meter dishes.

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