said by DrewCapu :

What are you doing over here? Aren't you supposed to be reporting how we're up $6? :D

said by MarkyD :

It really blows away my Centro in every way. Having a REAL web browser is sweet...
Pandora Radio app is freaking awesome.

said by ultracooldave :

whats relevant is $20 a year for unlimited use, perfect quality

said by bbarrera :

and battery life of original iPhone is much better.

said by MarkyD :

-Browsing on EDGE is not as horrible as you'd think.

said by dennismurphy :

BlackBerry 8830. Solved. Great device.

»na.blackberry.com/eng/devices/de···201,P463

said by rugby :

One thing I noticed is that MJ says it will work with Intel Macs, does that mean I need to buy Fusion/Parallels and then Windows and then it will work? Their website is sketchy about details.

said by elias :

Problem with Sprint/Verizon is that you can't really leave the country and still use your phone. There seems to be CDMA coverage in just Mexico/Carib, but otherwise you need GSM if you plan to travel to any part of the world.

said by RiseAbove :

I do like Sprint and Verizon's data network due to how large and fast it is, especially in cases where tethering becomes a nice option for internet access. I rode from central IL to Cleveland with a laptop usb tethered to their service and almost the whole way had EVDO streaming internet radio into the car. Can't do that on AT&T.

said by MarkyD :

I wanted the anti-glare screen protectors...but they were all out.
I did pick up a couple incase sleeves, though.

said by MarkyD :

Sprint REALLY pissed me off this morning, it was the last straw. I'll gladly pay 2x the price to NOT have to deal with them anymore.

said by bobrk :

The glass is quite durable. I see no reason to muck it up by putting a plastic cover on it. You'll learn to do the "iPhone wipe" on your shirt before you put it back in your pocket.

said by RiseAbove :

And AT&T thanks you for your over joyous consumerism attitude with a $160+ tax bill.

Jailbreak that sucker and really use that phone to its full potential.

said by MarkyD :

So...
So, I just sped down to the store and got two :D

said by ptrowski :

I will agree with this one. My Blackberry Curve could go for 3 days or so syncing. I charged my iPhone last night overnight and I am just above the 50% mark. Push is on, but set to Manual. 37 minutes of phone usage today, nominal data usage, just emails coming in.

So I would say personally the battery life seems worse that my Blackberry.

said by MarkyD :

Well, I chickened out this morning. I mainly didn't want to get up at 5am to get to the apple store to wait in line.
I think if I do this I'll go the direct-fulfillment route. It takes 10-14 days, but at least I don't have to wait in line.

said by ultracooldave :

--- So you are paying 11 1/2 cents a minute now! With the GO Phone its 10 cents a minute and free to others on the AT&T network phones plus $1 a day each day you use it, presumably many of your calls are on the AT&T network-they are free anytime/unlimited, so there is no doubt you are going to save some money, maybe only $40 but thats nearly $500 a year.
Since I have 7 computers they are not a restriction for me, but at $20 a year unlimited for each Magic Jack you will soon have some money to buy another computer, I have one plugged into my old Dell and it works perfectly. I have another plugged into a new computer, these are left on all the time, they are plugged into regular wireless phones all over the house. Electricity is not a problem since the Magic Jack wakes up the computers from sleep mode. Sending faxes with Magic Jack can be tricky, if you fax from your computer they work, faxing from a regular fax machine sometimes does not, I got mine to work turning the speed down. I even turned off Vonage for $24 a month-Magic Jacks take much less bandwidth and even $24 is now way too much- $288 a year vs. $20, also international calls are about half.
In California many rest stops on the main freeways have free WIFI so if you had to you could fire up the laptop and plug the Magic Jack in, why- I don't know since you have a cell phone unless you needed to make long international calls on the road or send/receive a fax.

said by Matt :

My Moto Q9c does.

This is blatantly false. My Q9c will last 3-4 days of activesync email (constant EVDO Exchange push), SMS and voice. From your own links just about every Blackberry on the market is better.

said by MarkyD :

Well, I chickened out this morning. I mainly didn't want to get up at 5am to get to the apple store to wait in line.
I think if I do this I'll go the direct-fulfillment route. It takes 10-14 days, but at least I don't have to wait in line.

said by Lorne :

It's good enough to get things on the fly - for example something you're about to buy so your wife at home can see what's going on. And, how many cell phones have flashes?C'mon Mike! :p But you did forget about the lack of a video camera.

said by Lorne :


Best battery life of a smartphone. How can you complain when nothing is better?

said by ultracooldave :

Marky, have you worked out that the $160 a month to AT & T is actually $3840 you will pay over 24 months for the 2 phones plus $400 for the actual I-Phones. Have you worked out that you will be paying in after tax money so you will have to actually take $6424 (at average tax rates) out of your gross income over 2 years?
So, whatever you earn per month-take $268 out of your gross pay for those 2 phones every month for 2 years!- nearly $9 every day assuming no other charges.
Its no wonder this country is in such a mess! I would imagine that many are paying with credit cards which they don't pay off-talk about stupid.
Without boring you with details, which I suppose most never work out,my idea above gets you down to $113 a month out of your gross pay and you can change providers/plans if you want.

said by HiVolt :

I've got to agree... If Apple could really include more of the common sense features that other phones have had for years, they could really destroy the competition.

said by Lorne :

You know it just hit me how stupid-funny it is that we're comparing the iPhone to "perfection" when it's their very first phone ever.

said by HiVolt :

I've got to agree... If Apple could really include more of the common sense features that other phones have had for years, they could really destroy the competition.

said by kerriskandie :

When my wife got one, I told her NOT to buy me one, ever.......

Now I have one I absolutely love it, and the ability, to download, review and forward a Word doc whilst now where near a computer saved our arses the very first night we switched my wifes on!!!!!!

said by Dogfather :

My experience exactly.

said by rugby :

I've owned several dozen cellphones over the years, from dumb freebie phones to $700 Windows mobile phones. I've never enjoyed a phone as much as my iPhone 3G. Sure it's not perfect, but it is simple to use, has a good feature set, and I don't have to spend $$$ to get it to do what I want, unlike other platforms.

said by Mike :

Some people still have older cell phones and lack smartphones. Therefore, we're still somewhat tethered to text messaging.

said by DrewCapu :

Sounds exactly like what Jabber/XMPP is supposed to be.

Some day... Some day...

said by Mike :

GPS - useless. Standing in the middle of downtown Pittsburgh, it gave me a 4 mile radius of where I was. Same thing when I was at home. I'm waiting for Turn-by-Turn. HOWEVER... as I wrote this and got an email... Turn by Turn is coming. It's a firmware problem.

Screen - Smudges way too easy. Not too bright.

said by wxboss :

For instant communication, IM clients are an acceptable option, but information in larger mobile chunks (video, music & pictures) are more easily transmitted via email. Why do we need so many options when one integrated option could handle them all?

said by Mike :

GPS - useless.

said by Mike :

Screen - Smudges way too easy. Not too bright.

said by Mike :

Camera - Same garbage 2mp in the previous. It looks really good on the iPhone itself, however, looks like junk on anything else. No flash.

said by Mike :

Battery life - awful.

said by Mike :

No Stereo Bluetooth. It's an iPod, sort of.

said by Mike :

Some people still have older cell phones and lack smartphones. Therefore, we're still somewhat tethered to text messaging.

said by Lorne :

Can you just pick one up at an Apple store? You're not too far away from me (Fort Worth) and they take 10-21 days to come in to an ATT store (although my white one came in 5 business days later).

With AT&T you have to sign a 2 year contract. But with that the 8GB iPhone is $200 and the 16GB iPhone is $300

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$160?

$30 Phone #1 unlimited Data
$30 Phone #2 unlimited Data
$30 Unlimited text messages on both phones
$10 2nd phone fee (sharing the same voice plan).
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$100

Assuming the taxes and such are around $10, are you really needing a $60 voice plan?? My wife and I are on a $40 plan and we always have max rollover minutes.

The cost would make me think twice if I wasn't getting 50% off the voice and data plans myself :D