WARHAMMER in PC gaming GAMES

WARHAMMER in PC gaming GAMES http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r20918252 en Wed, 11 Nov 2009 14:15:19 EDT Wed, 11 Nov 2009 14:15:19 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21223252 Shatter : Turning on /anon also helps reduce the Gold spam]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21223252 Mon, 06 Oct 2008 13:29:00 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21222700 Neyland : That Spammenot mod is fantastic and I wouldn't wait on it. After installing it I got 0 gold spam and it reported killing 70 attempts!

I had been running on the beta install, but removed it this weekend and installed/patched the actual retail version. I now get more annoying startup animations/movies that you can't click through, but it seems to have improved my performance a bit.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21222700 Mon, 06 Oct 2008 11:50:18 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21219760 Frohike : Want to improve performance - try removing shadows. That did alot for me.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21219760 Sun, 05 Oct 2008 18:47:58 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21218560 CFHJustin73 : I'm only adding this one because it's supposed to improve performance in scenario's. My laptop's and my own I hope, lol. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21218560 Sun, 05 Oct 2008 13:11:58 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21218333 gaforces : Sounds right to me as I understand that the mod install is the same as for wow.
I'm waiting a while to use mods till mythic gets the coding finished. I expect there will be a lot of changes/patches in the next few 4-5 months.
--
There is no greater sign of a general decay of virtue in a nation, than a want of zeal in its inhabitants for the good of their country. ~ Joseph Addison]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21218333 Sun, 05 Oct 2008 11:57:07 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21217863 CFHJustin73 : I installed Buffthrottle last night, but didn't have time to see if it worked. I used the install instructions at Curse, but none of the folders the instructions said to use were there so I just added them. Was that right? Or do I need to move them somewhere else? I used add-ons in WoW without issue, and the install guide was the same as WoW.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21217863 Sun, 05 Oct 2008 09:03:55 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21212473 Neyland : There's a UI customization menu when you click escape.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21212473 Fri, 03 Oct 2008 19:40:21 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21211630 Tehuno : from looking at some peoples screen shots, i can see they have multiple hotbars active. Ive already ran out of space since ive gotten so many abilities, how do i activate another hotbar to put on my UI.

i can shift/ 2-5 to scroll to my other hotbars, but its way to slow for my taste.

also, anyone else notice healers seem to be pretty weak in this game? even using every available AP to heal myself, i cant keep up with the damage output of other classes, even classes lower level than me(IE, at level 8 i couldnt outheal a level 4 witch hunters damage, even using my morale ability).
If i cant straight out heal their damage, there is no way i can use my AP to output any kind of damage to kill them.
i really like my zealot, but if im going to get owned 1v1 every time i go into a rvr zone, im gonna reroll to an OP dps class. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21211630 Fri, 03 Oct 2008 16:47:23 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21204772 Neyland : Really REALLY wish they had put in the ability to drag and drop items into the chat box and link it. At this stage I thought that little feature was almost a standard... silly me.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21204772 Thu, 02 Oct 2008 14:47:10 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21203280 winterforge :

said by JIGA

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Not sure if clicking on their name does anything, haven't tried it. I use the help menu as well. Select Harassment, input name, and for description I just put in "gold spammer" and that's it. Doesn't take more than 30 seconds.

From the newest patch notes that should be implemented today:

"The war against the gold sellers continues! We have made improvements to the Appeal system to allow players to report spam messages from gold sellers more quickly."]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21203280 Thu, 02 Oct 2008 10:48:40 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21197616 JIGA :

said by Tails

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One question for y'all:
What's the difference between the white names and yellow names?

White name = you are not flagged for RVR
Yellow name = you are flagged for RVR

Once you enter an RVR area you receive a warning stating you are entering an RVR area and get a 10 second countdown before you are flagged.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21197616 Wed, 01 Oct 2008 10:44:05 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21197531 Tails : One question for y'all:
What's the difference between the white names and yellow names? ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21197531 Wed, 01 Oct 2008 10:24:45 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21197282 Nightfall :

said by Shatter

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Im not happy with my servers current direction atm and maybe this is more widespread then I realize. I play destruction, I have a 27 DoK. On my server Destruction owns all the keeps almost all the time. Order rarely comes out for RvR and prefer to just do scenarios only and they do it cause they love to use their knockbacks and bat us into lava and they win 99%. This leaves me in a bind, I cant get reknown from RvR. I cant get reknown in other scenarios except 1 which we lose all the time cause its the only order will que for. I am actually probably going to go out tonight and get a second copy and make order on my server and start enjoying scenario wins. I guess its always possible things will change when I get to 40 but from what I have seen its more of same. Destr has the keeps the times Ive checked so I am assuming Order is just sticking to scenarios there as well :(

It seems the wins and losses in scenarios come in bunches at a time. I remember days where Destruction would win all the time. Then there are days where the wins are hard to get. I attribute that to who is playing at the time.

Its good to see that they opened up all scenarios for queueing which makes for more RVR opportunities in scenarios. The lack of world RVR is also noticed as most people are just trying to get to tier 4 right now which is the end game.

On my server, there is very little world RVR as well. The keeps do get taken, but they are taken right back by the other side. I know this will change in tier 4.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21197282 Wed, 01 Oct 2008 09:24:23 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21197044 Shatter : Im not happy with my servers current direction atm and maybe this is more widespread then I realize. I play destruction, I have a 27 DoK. On my server Destruction owns all the keeps almost all the time. Order rarely comes out for RvR and prefer to just do scenarios only and they do it cause they love to use their knockbacks and bat us into lava and they win 99%. This leaves me in a bind, I cant get reknown from RvR. I cant get reknown in other scenarios except 1 which we lose all the time cause its the only order will que for. I am actually probably going to go out tonight and get a second copy and make order on my server and start enjoying scenario wins. I guess its always possible things will change when I get to 40 but from what I have seen its more of same. Destr has the keeps the times Ive checked so I am assuming Order is just sticking to scenarios there as well :(]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21197044 Wed, 01 Oct 2008 08:16:08 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21196858 JIGA : I've gotten a Black Orc to 12, a Witch Elf to 4, and a Magus to 5. So far I like the Black Orc the best. Just last night I found out I could solo 8 mobs -2 levels with ease. That was a blast! :)

I was in the Ekrund PQ area which was pretty dead, only me and maybe 2 other players. I wanted to get my influence up so I just grinded the mobs. 100 influence per kill and I found a camp of 8+ mobs level 8-10 with a very fast spawn rate. So I just stayed there and mass murdered them over and over, never once having to use a health pot.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21196858 Wed, 01 Oct 2008 06:42:34 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21196316 winterforge : I've played almost all the classes so far, and I like Warrior Priest the best. It seems to fit my playstyle the best. I can heal and help my team stay alive but still be in the action hitting people (I have to hit people to get my healing power).]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21196316 Wed, 01 Oct 2008 00:40:32 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21196013 Airwolf : Picked it up this morning. So far, I'm addicted.

Black Orc - Rank 6
IGN: Nosaj
Server: Iron Rock]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21196013 Tue, 30 Sep 2008 23:28:08 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21193524 JIGA : Not sure if clicking on their name does anything, haven't tried it. I use the help menu as well. Select Harassment, input name, and for description I just put in "gold spammer" and that's it. Doesn't take more than 30 seconds.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21193524 Tue, 30 Sep 2008 16:13:49 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21193242 winterforge :

said by JIGA

said by Savant

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Please God no trials for a long time. The gold spam is bad enough with them buying copies, can you imagine the spam if there were free trials? No thanks.

Speaking of which, is the an easy way to report a gold spammer in Warhammer? All I know is to use the help icon at the top and submit a formal petition about it which takes too much time as many as I get. In LOTRO, you could just right click their name in the chat window and select 'report spammer'.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21193242 Tue, 30 Sep 2008 15:22:12 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21192611 JIGA :

said by Savant

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Please God no trials for a long time. The gold spam is bad enough with them buying copies, can you imagine the spam if there were free trials? No thanks.

Trial accounts should be limited, just like how WoW's trial accounts were. If someone does not have you on their friends list you were unable to send them a tell.

Every gold spammer that sends me a tell in Warhammer I report.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21192611 Tue, 30 Sep 2008 13:48:01 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21192099 Savant : Please God no trials for a long time. The gold spam is bad enough with them buying copies, can you imagine the spam if there were free trials? No thanks.
--

Could be better, could be worse, could be Monday...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21192099 Tue, 30 Sep 2008 12:25:16 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21186227 Shatter : It is too early for trials. Most games do not allow trials for a month or two after launch because they are usually busy with the current player load and dont want to make it worse. Once they get the initial "rush" of players/servers stable, then they do trials. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21186227 Mon, 29 Sep 2008 12:13:56 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21184561 Adamd2 : Well, tried 2 different things and the game has installed. I updated my DVD players firmware, and I installed it on my main HDD instead of my secondary. It installed fine!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21184561 Mon, 29 Sep 2008 00:03:08 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21183574 gaforces : I would try and take it back to the store I bought it from and get non-defective DVD's.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21183574 Sun, 28 Sep 2008 20:44:59 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21183415 Adamd2 : Has anyone had a problem installing the game? Once the first disc installs, I put in the second and it acts as if it is not there. My DVD player opens as if I need to insert the DVD. I hit retry, it closes again, light flashes for a few seconds, and then it kicks it out again. I tried a fix I located online that said to copy the big files from disc 2 and then run the game having it check the installed files so that it would download anything missing and then start working. I tried it, and when it is locating the missing files, it gives me an error and says I have too many missing files, please reinstall. I have the standard US version. Any ideas? I am downloading the beta client currently but it is going to take days as it is 9 gigs. Thanks for any help.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21183415 Sun, 28 Sep 2008 20:12:15 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21182994 chucky5150 : No trials out as of yet.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21182994 Sun, 28 Sep 2008 18:33:27 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21182720 CFHJustin73 : Is there a free trial before I shell out $50 for each copy I need? Sounds interesting, but If it's good I'm likely to need a few copies for the family.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21182720 Sun, 28 Sep 2008 17:17:08 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21176052 chucky5150 :

said by winterforge

said by Neyland

:

Mythic really needs to do something to encourage ppl rolling Order.

My reason is I play a good guy all day at work. I want to be evil when I play games :p

Then maybe work needs to let you be a bad guy ;)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21176052 Fri, 26 Sep 2008 22:30:34 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21174914 winterforge :

said by Neyland

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Mythic really needs to do something to encourage ppl rolling Order.

My reason is I play a good guy all day at work. I want to be evil when I play games :p]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21174914 Fri, 26 Sep 2008 19:02:48 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21174833 Neyland : Mythic really needs to do something to encourage ppl rolling Order.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21174833 Fri, 26 Sep 2008 18:47:31 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21174682 gaforces : All the US servers are based in Virginia, you would have to check out guilds to see which ones are west coast based.
I've seen a few around the WA forum, don't remember what ones.
»www.warhammeralliance.com/forums/
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There is no greater sign of a general decay of virtue in a nation, than a want of zeal in its inhabitants for the good of their country. ~ Joseph Addison]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21174682 Fri, 26 Sep 2008 18:19:54 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21173872 winterforge : I picked up the Collector's Edition today at Gamestop. They were technically sold out of that version but someone didn't pickup their pre-order yay :D I'm rolling something Destruction, leaning towards Disciple of Khaine. Now I have to choose which Core server I want. Is there one tailored for west coast people?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21173872 Fri, 26 Sep 2008 15:44:02 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21173703 joe642 : another thing I found that's interesting I walked all the way to tier 2 at level 5 and made it to one of main cities there. I tried to run to tier 3 but died LOL]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21173703 Fri, 26 Sep 2008 15:13:37 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21159481 Shatter : My guild got rank 10 last night :) ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21159481 Wed, 24 Sep 2008 07:58:32 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21156290 veunad : The focus is heavy on organization of guild leaders and officers; as such those guilds who are larger and more organized will excell faster than smaller guilds.

However, small guilds will be viable due to guild alliances which basically let guilds join up to coordinate better (i.e. shared calendars, etc.), all in all, the guild management tools while sparce are light years beyond what WoW offers, but is still room for advancement.

The guild I am in is a small guild 35-40 members (slowing growing) and we are rank 6 as of lastnight, which means we now have access to the guild vault, first guild tactic, and the ability to form alliances; once our realm levels up the capital city we will have access to some more resources as well. Thus far pretty fun; not paying attention to any world first for our realm or which guilds are the highest rank; there are some sites popping up to track that based on WARs verison of the armory, so should be interesting in the coming months.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21156290 Tue, 23 Sep 2008 16:32:17 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21150873 JIGA :

said by JSY

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I'm liking what I see so far from WH but you are giving a reason for me to irrationally think otherwise.

LOL :D

Peer pressure got me last night. I broke down and bought the game off of Direct2Drive. My gaming buddies kept calling me after work everyday lol. I was planning on getting it, just not this soon. :D]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21150873 Mon, 22 Sep 2008 16:41:30 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21150376 JSY :

said by Shatter

Oh, and name an MMO that hasnt been delayed in the last 3 years. There isnt any, I'll make it easy for you.

It was delayed for 2-3 years. The point wasn't that it was delayed, but that it was delayed for that long and that this bug was in such an early part of the game. Oh, you know what - never mind. You're going to only hear/read what you want to read and if you want to read it as me throwing the smack down on this game, then so be it.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21150376 Mon, 22 Sep 2008 15:18:35 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21150333 JSY : You took a message that spent time talking about a few bugs that I've found into some personal vendetta I have against the game. Somehow you took that to mean that I needed a bug free game and anything less was not acceptable. Bug free? Being one of those who have played WoW for years - that should give you some indication of how high of a tolerance level I have for bugs.

I can never understand why some people have such a vested interest in a game that they have to jump on anyone that has anything to say that might be contrary, no matter how indirect it might be, to what they believe.

I'm liking what I see so far from WH but you are giving a reason for me to irrationally think otherwise. Let me know when you find yourself less defensive about something you probably have no control over.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21150333 Mon, 22 Sep 2008 15:13:38 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21149978 Shatter : Let me know when you find that perfect game with 0 bugs, no lag, no ques and meets your perfect standard. Be careful using the words "pretty buggy" cause to me thats says its pretty buggy. As someone thats played it for 6 weeks in beta and am now Rank 21 it is not in comparison to other MMO launches. I dont call that being defensive, its you making a judgement from virtually nothing.

Oh, and name an MMO that hasnt been delayed in the last 3 years. There isnt any, I'll make it easy for you. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21149978 Mon, 22 Sep 2008 14:11:53 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21149884 JSY :

said by Shatter

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So you got 2 minor bugs and you call the game "pretty buggy"? Interesting...

Pretty buggy IMO is AOC where every class has multiple broken abilties. WH has minimal bugs and most minor and IM rank 21

Oh, please don't start with this defensive crap. I called it as it appeared to me. I hadn't played it long at all; it happens at a very early stage of the game; the game has been delayed 2+ years; and they seemingly had a billion beta sessions. When I play longer, I am sure that will adjust as I don't find any other issues, as is should. But I don't think it's unrealistic to expect no issues playing up to just rank 4.

And since when is a mob not showing up preventing you from completing a quest considered a "minor" bug? The fact that it's repeated and that you eventually get it done?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21149884 Mon, 22 Sep 2008 13:52:06 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21149859 sixstring : I have another question.. Are smaller guilds viable in Warhammer?

i didnt read up much on this game before i started it, i just found out recently that everything is what they call "living" in WH. Cities and Guilds gain exp for unlock abilities and perks.. which is kind of cool (if you are destruction on my server) but now i'm wondering about the viability of smaller guilds.

Guilds gain experience as your members pvp and complete objectives, but that means we'd either have to mass recruit or join a big guild to benefit from the living guild system.

In PQs, as i understand, if you complete a very difficult quest with less players and such you end up with better loot (ie: blue or massive reward bags).. again it could be completely random, i dont know, but it would be cool if Mythic used this method to encourage people to play better. I was hoping maybe Mythic took the same approach to make smaller guilds viable. For example, the unlocks and guild levels are divided by the number of guild members, or a constant variable like Time, and not just a pre-set astronomical number that smaller guilds can never achieve.

does anyone have any insight on this?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21149859 Mon, 22 Sep 2008 13:45:47 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21149654 Shatter :

said by JSY

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I finally gave this game a try for a little bit playing a dwarf engineer and I didn't really get into it - but I thought the public quests were kind of interesting. The open groups are a nice idea too. But, I didn't get into it to much - only starting Chapter 2. One thing I did notice off the bat was that it seemed to be pretty buggy. During the public quests at the end of Chapter 1, you have to kill some Rank 4 "boss" and 3 of his tiny trolls (sorry, I don't remember the names) - and a few times, he only came out with 2 of those trolls and as a result, that part never finished - and the time expired and the battleground reset. There were also some visual issues like how players could get stuck in a position (like in WoW) but that could be my system, though.

Also, my game installed with a bad "warpatch.exe" file and I had to download a new one from the EA/Mythic site in Australia because apparently some discs in the Aussie/NZ region were pressed with this bad file. I picked my game up from Gamestop - so how I got that problem is beyond me. Strange...

So you got 2 minor bugs and you call the game "pretty buggy"? Interesting...

Pretty buggy IMO is AOC where every class has multiple broken abilties. WH has minimal bugs and most minor and IM rank 21]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21149654 Mon, 22 Sep 2008 13:02:38 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21149161 JSY : I finally gave this game a try for a little bit playing a dwarf engineer and I didn't really get into it - but I thought the public quests were kind of interesting. The open groups are a nice idea too. But, I didn't get into it to much - only starting Chapter 2. One thing I did notice off the bat was that it seemed to be pretty buggy. During the public quests at the end of Chapter 1, you have to kill some Rank 4 "boss" and 3 of his tiny trolls (sorry, I don't remember the names) - and a few times, he only came out with 2 of those trolls and as a result, that part never finished - and the time expired and the battleground reset. There were also some visual issues like how players could get stuck in a position (like in WoW) but that could be my system, though.

Also, my game installed with a bad "warpatch.exe" file and I had to download a new one from the EA/Mythic site in Australia because apparently some discs in the Aussie/NZ region were pressed with this bad file. I picked my game up from Gamestop - so how I got that problem is beyond me. Strange...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21149161 Mon, 22 Sep 2008 11:24:39 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21144485 JIGA :

said by veunad

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In WoWspeak.

RvR - Scenarios = Battlegrounds
OpenRvR - "lakes" = World PvP; PvP Zones

OpenRvR Server Type = WoW PvP Server (No lowbie ganking though).

To add to this, RVR (world PVP) does work in Warhammer. It is the main concept of the game, unlike WoW's PVE main concept.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21144485 Sun, 21 Sep 2008 08:19:51 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21142666 veunad : In WoWspeak.

RvR - Scenarios = Battlegrounds
OpenRvR - "lakes" = World PvP; PvP Zones

OpenRvR Server Type = WoW PvP Server (No lowbie ganking though).]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21142666 Sat, 20 Sep 2008 18:02:39 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21142033 JIGA :

said by Tboner

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whats the difference between the rvr and open rvr?

Are you refering to the server types?
Core RVR
Open RVR

?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21142033 Sat, 20 Sep 2008 15:08:24 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21141490 Mock_Turtle :

By the way, has anyone figured out how to load a talisman into a piece of gear yet. For the life of me I can't see any instructions on it.

Make sure the item is in your bag, and shift+right click on it. It should open a small window you can slot a talisman into.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21141490 Sat, 20 Sep 2008 12:18:55 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21141018 Tboner : whats the difference between the rvr and open rvr?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21141018 Sat, 20 Sep 2008 09:48:37 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21140895 Neyland : Mmmmmm crow. What a delightful dish....

I'm enjoying it.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21140895 Sat, 20 Sep 2008 08:50:16 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21140509 Savant :

said by Shatter

said by Flesh :

Is the game worth it though...

If you enjoy PvP and RvR, then yes.

I have to say I've been underwhelmed with the PvP so far. Yeah it's early and yeah I know it will take time to refine it, but I just find that it always ends up someing down to the lowest common demoninator. IE, it's not about the skill of the players, it's about how many AOE snares and AOE damage spells you can spam. This is getting old fast, and it's something that I was hoping they were going to use sparingly. Perhaps they will have another look at it.

By the way, has anyone figured out how to load a talisman into a piece of gear yet. For the life of me I can't see any instructions on it.
--

Could be better, could be worse, could be Monday...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21140509 Sat, 20 Sep 2008 02:23:30 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21137710 Shatter :

said by Flesh :

Is the game worth it though...

If you enjoy PvP and RvR, then yes.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21137710 Fri, 19 Sep 2008 15:24:12 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21137660 anon : Is the game worth it though...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21137660 Fri, 19 Sep 2008 15:15:33 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21137395 Gundy :

said by Savant

said by Shatter

:

Well I started my char at exactly 12:01 Sunday when the servers went up and were all low pop. Its just turned into a full server since and now has ques :P

This is true, it has been stated numerous times they haven't ran the servers at full capacity yet. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21137395 Fri, 19 Sep 2008 14:31:47 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21136927 Savant :

said by Shatter

:

Well I started my char at exactly 12:01 Sunday when the servers went up and were all low pop. Its just turned into a full server since and now has ques :P

Don't worry about queues right now. I was reading on the official website that they are running servers at 1/3 their actual capacity so that they can spread people around. Once a server reaches the cap people will get a message telling them not to roll new characters on that realm.

This is the hardest part of starting a new game, since the populations will flutuate as people get settled. The other aspect is that you can't have a full realm with ALL the players in the same starting area. So this is why they have artificially set the server caps below what the servers can handle. (Can you imagine the lag if they let the ENTIRE server population join the server and they were ALL in the starting zones?!? Lag city.)

So give the queues some time, they will clear up as people progress from the starting zones and the server caps are raised.
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if we do, is it accessible to all of Order? or is it restricted to the ones that took it?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21134960 Fri, 19 Sep 2008 01:55:29 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21133684 veunad : From Earlier in the thread: For anyone who hasn't seen the herald yet...

"This announcement is to let everyone know that if you haven’t yet entered your CD key into the account center, you must do so by tomorrow (Friday) morning at 7:00 AM. If you do not enter your information into the Account Center by the deadline your characters will not be affected, you will just be unable to login until your product key is entered."

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but i still rolled Order, because its more fun to be the underdog. ^^]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21131489 Thu, 18 Sep 2008 14:19:15 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21131132 Shatter :

said by Nightfall

:

On Iron Hand server, the Order are dominating every scenario match. I finally won a couple Khaines Scenarios, but for the most part, Order are dominating.

Interesting. On my server Destro are doing better in both 1-11 bracket and the next. I lost I think 2-3 games as I leveled from 1-11 and in my current bracket(im level 14) Ive won about 70%. My reknown is level 9]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21131132 Thu, 18 Sep 2008 12:59:18 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21130935 Nightfall : On Iron Hand server, the Order are dominating every scenario match. I finally won a couple Khaines Scenarios, but for the most part, Order are dominating.

I was participating in RVR at a very low level as well and met with some challenges of staying alive. However, as I have played I have learned that there is more to the game than Scenarios. I sieged a keep last night and that was a blast. We got experience, renoun points, and so on. Plus, we got to own some Order and siege the keep. What a blast.
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In games like DAoC and even WoW there was no point in going into the BGs till you got to the cap.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21130773 Thu, 18 Sep 2008 11:45:00 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21130611 Neyland : Yes, your stats are bumped up to level 8, but I don't believe your Armor or resist values are effected.

I enjoy a good RvR scenario. Good XP, good fun, good gear, good money. But, after several nice back and forth even matches we ran into this stint of 8 consecutive matchs where we just got rolled by groups of mainly 10 and 11s. It wasn't even close in most of them it was like 50 to 500.

No, not tactics or anything like that. It was just a pure simple pwnage due to level. IMO that one level would make a significant difference.

Personally I don't want to have my turn to dominate as an 11. I don't find killing players that really don't have much of a chance fun and personally don't have much respect for those that do. That's like thumpin your chest after killing a rat. You might as well go back to your starting area and just hang out killing the easy NPCs.

I find that it's much more fun to have a down to the wire victory.

Of course in the end I feel they're going to have to do something about getting people to play Order (based on the current population breakdown). There's a TON more people playing Chaos. What's worse is there's an over abundance of support class players on Order (at least on my servers - HS,OB,CB). Your choices for tanks are a short fat corny dwarf or a sissy looking elf. Not exactly the visual equivilant of the bad a$$ looking Black Ork or Chosen.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21130611 Thu, 18 Sep 2008 11:18:36 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21130342 Shatter :

said by Neyland

said by Shatter

said by Neyland

:

Ehhh just roll on another server then. It's not that big of a deal yet, your talking 5 days.

Now, what does stink are level 11s in RvR scenarios. IMO cut off needs to be level 10. As a level 8 Ironbreaker I can't make a dent in a level 11 and they walk through me like butter.

They PvP crying has officially begun. And an IB crying is LOL

How very mature.

Sorry but i had to. Anyways, the good thing about your post being level 8 you cant touch an 11 is that you and everyone else will get their chance at being 11 as well and have their day of dominance.

Also the bump to level 8 is stats only, you dont get the abilities so a level 8 whos truly a level 4 is definitely going to get a reaming from level 11's. You dont get your stats bumped down BTW, if you are level 11 you dont get knocked down to level 8 stats. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21130342 Thu, 18 Sep 2008 10:28:48 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21130242 Nightfall :

said by Frohike

:

You do realize those over level 8 are brought down to level 8 and anyone under level 8 is brought upto level 8 in RVR?? I hit RVR at lvl 3 and had a blast...

I think the only thing you are lacking are the higher level abilities. I didn't know you were brought down to level 8 though.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21130242 Thu, 18 Sep 2008 10:07:33 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21130047 Frohike : You do realize those over level 8 are brought down to level 8 and anyone under level 8 is brought upto level 8 in RVR?? I hit RVR at lvl 3 and had a blast...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21130047 Thu, 18 Sep 2008 09:26:19 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21129902 Neyland :

said by Shatter

said by Neyland

They PvP crying has officially begun. And an IB crying is LOL

How very mature.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21129902 Thu, 18 Sep 2008 08:44:30 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21129866 Shatter :

said by Neyland

They PvP crying has officially begun. And an IB crying is LOL]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21129866 Thu, 18 Sep 2008 08:35:07 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21129857 Neyland : Ehhh just roll on another server then. It's not that big of a deal yet, your talking 5 days.

Now, what does stink are level 11s in RvR scenarios. IMO cut off needs to be level 10. As a level 8 Ironbreaker I can't make a dent in a level 11 and they walk through me like butter.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21129857 Thu, 18 Sep 2008 08:32:07 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21129795 JIGA : You guys didn't see this coming? Just small issues associated with any release day MMO. They all have these issues... Even WoW had these problems.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21129795 Thu, 18 Sep 2008 08:04:02 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21125485 Shatter : Well I started my char at exactly 12:01 Sunday when the servers went up and were all low pop. Its just turned into a full server since and now has ques :P]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21125485 Wed, 17 Sep 2008 14:02:39 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21124866 Gundy :

said by Nightfall

said by Shatter

:

Last night I was a little disappointed. I raided in WOW until about 11pm then decided to go play for 30 minutes before bed. Got to my server and *BOOM* Que...You are in line 114/114! Well 15 minutes of waiting I finally got in. Considering this isnt even fully live yet and servers have que's I am having WOW launch dejavu. I really hope I dont start seeing 1 hour wait times or some crap like WOW had. Love the game, love the PvP, love my class, Ques need to be fixed

Yeah you're right WoW never had server queue times oh wait..

There is also more than one server to choose from.. its wise to pick the one that mentions 'Low to Med' for the faction you choose to play.. just a word of advice.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21124866 Wed, 17 Sep 2008 12:15:18 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21124399 Nightfall :

said by Shatter

There are 4 servers at capacity with long queue times right now. Every other server has low queue times now and are very well populated. My guild moved from Badlands to Iron Hand shortly after they watched the Badlands server population grow and grow with no signs of stopping.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21124399 Wed, 17 Sep 2008 10:51:04 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21123935 beatsnpieces :

said by GCoop

:

Does anyone know, or for those that have thier retail boxes already, if there are any buddy keys included? I could not get into the open beta any would really like to try before I buy.

I picked up my SE copy last night and there were no buddy passes, just a code for an exclusive Red Alert 3 map for some reson.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21123935 Wed, 17 Sep 2008 09:15:21 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21123657 Shatter : Last night I was a little disappointed. I raided in WOW until about 11pm then decided to go play for 30 minutes before bed. Got to my server and *BOOM* Que...You are in line 114/114! Well 15 minutes of waiting I finally got in. Considering this isnt even fully live yet and servers have que's I am having WOW launch dejavu. I really hope I dont start seeing 1 hour wait times or some crap like WOW had. Love the game, love the PvP, love my class, Ques need to be fixed]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21123657 Wed, 17 Sep 2008 07:52:00 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21122852 Nightfall : Well, I played a lot today and I have enjoyed the game thus far. Better than WoW? Yes. I can't wait to play more tomorrow.
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I'm playing on it now with the Head Start.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21122476 Tue, 16 Sep 2008 22:40:38 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21120603 veunad : From the FAQ on mythics page

Do I need my WAR Product Key the day the game launches?
While we encourage you to get your WAR product key as soon as possible, we will provide a reasonable grace period for players to get a hold of their copies and have uninterrupted service following the Live Game Head Start.

I seem to recall seeing/hearing the 22nd bandied about; but with the weekend, IMO, that seems too short a grace period. I would guess thet may go as long as the 25th to account for shipping delays.
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said by sixstring

:

how is this going to work for those of us that got the regular pre-orders?

we start on tuesday, we can play for 2 days then we have to pick up the release copy and enter a new code? can we just make the purchase using our old beta codes from mythic through the account system?

Thats a good question. I purchased through Direct2Drive and all I got was a headstart code and open beta code. I am assuming that all I have to do is play the game and I won't get another code. Heck knows if I am right or not.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21113442 Mon, 15 Sep 2008 14:02:15 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21113286 sixstring : how is this going to work for those of us that got the regular pre-orders?

we start on tuesday, we can play for 2 days then we have to pick up the release copy and enter a new code? can we just make the purchase using our old beta codes from mythic through the account system?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21113286 Mon, 15 Sep 2008 13:35:05 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21111880 Shatter : Yeah seeing how busy it was yesterday with just CE, I dread Thursday. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21111880 Mon, 15 Sep 2008 08:54:25 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21111752 Nightfall : Yea, I have to wait until Tuesday. Which is fine because I have 2 hockey games tonight so I won't be home until 9:15 anyway. I will have more time to play tomorrow.

Good news on the CE launch though. Will be interesting to see what it looks like on Tuesday for the preorder launch and then again on Thursday.
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said by Tails

:

I'm rolling a bright wizard on either todbringer or ekrund (I think that's how you spell it). Anywho, game name is Blithe. Will the chars be wiped after beta is over?

There will be a character wipe between OB and head start(Sunday) I would guess. Head start (for people who bought CE) get to play starting sunday so sometime between now and sunday I would guess they will character wipe and probably implement 1 last patch. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21097866 Fri, 12 Sep 2008 07:51:35 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21097816 Tails : I'm rolling a bright wizard on either todbringer or ekrund (I think that's how you spell it). Anywho, game name is Blithe. Will the chars be wiped after beta is over?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21097816 Fri, 12 Sep 2008 07:19:43 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21095592 gaforces : They dont list Gorefang as a release server in the US, maybe they will add more servers after the CE/SE preorder people are done choosing ...

»herald.warhammeronline.com/warhe···r?id=252
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You have to scroll the options box down a bit to see it.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21095076 Thu, 11 Sep 2008 16:36:41 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21095062 Syl :

said by gaforces

:

Waaagh!

Btw, how you made your title visible? My sorceress also has Ow My Eye but i cant see it on my char like you on that pic.
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I am thinking come launch I am going for an Open RvR Server, just not certain which one yet.

If anyone else here is interested send a PM over or lets start a new thread and see who is interested in a BBR War group.

»herald.warhammeronline.com/warhe···r?id=252]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21094995 Thu, 11 Sep 2008 16:23:10 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21094913 Badger3k : Noo you Chaos bastard!! :p

I've been playing an IB during Open Beta and will probably start one once it goes live. Never played a tank in any MMO so this should be fun. That or a Black Orc if I end up going Chaos. May end up playing a Rune Priest or Shaman as well.
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said by Badger3k

:

So now more people have some interest... what the hell is everyone playing so maybe we can call roll together? :)

I am going to be playing on Gorefang when it starts up. My brother and I are in a guild of friends and we are all going to play together. :)

Probably going to be starting as a Disciple of Khaine.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21094557 Thu, 11 Sep 2008 15:08:20 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21094551 sixstring : Some different classes i've tried:

Swordmaster - Interesting take on a tank with the "sword dance". makes it somewhat less dreadful to play PvE. PvP is just so-so. They don't do or take damage as well as some of the other melee classes.

Shadow Warrior - currently my main and my favorite so far, doesnt hard in PvP or otherwise, but you are able to hit far and wide. Sustained damage is where it's at. This is an amazing support class.. you can get enemy players off your/tank's healer fairly quickly. If your group doesn't have any capable tanks though, shadow warriors can't really do much.

White Lion - great positional melee attackers.. if you like to "do it from behind".. i dont really like pet classes, so i didnt take this guy very far.

Witch Elf - sort of like rogues in WoW. But once they appear out of stealth they are bait.

Chaos Chosen - A WoW pally with "dark" auras but no heals. So far the most boring class that i've played in WH]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21094551 Thu, 11 Sep 2008 15:06:43 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21094231 Shatter : I have played alot of classes, especially in PvP cause I wanted to see which were best/worst at least at level 11. Here is a brief overview

Bright Wizards – hit like a truck and expect them to get nerfed actually, squishy
Sorceress – Good DPS, not quite as good as BW, also squishy
Shadow Warrior – loved this class but dont hit very hard in PvP. However they are kite capable which takes some skill but works effectively in PvP. Somewhat squishy. Fun class and look cool
White Lion – good DPS, was often able to top DPS charts in Scenarios, fun class.
Shaman – Mediocre DPS, healing isnt the best but effective. Good support class
Ironbreaker – wtf, nerf this class lol. I swear half the game will be playing them due to its badassness. Awesome tank, good DPS. If you join into a game with 2-4 of these guys and healers you are screwed
Black Orc – Good tank, if you get heals you live a long time in PvP.
Squig Herder – Found them to be average, just didnt fit my play style.

My starting class will be Disciple of Khaine. They have decent melee DPS and their heals are second to a zealot and look cool. Very enjoyable and useful class, good for soloing and group PvP.

In summary the way PvP seems to go is that if your tanks do their job and protect squishies, while healers keep them alive you will win most of the time. This isnt that different from WOW, the team getting heals and have good front line will win most of the time. If you dont play a tank or healer you are a support class and they all seem useful in their own way. Some debuff opponents, some do high DPS, some do a mix of different jobs. For anyone that hasnt played I suggest taking time to try different ones, you have a decent number to choose from. All in all it took me about 12 days of play time to finally come to my choice. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21094231 Thu, 11 Sep 2008 14:05:52 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21093200 Badger3k : So now more people have some interest... what the hell is everyone playing so maybe we can call roll together? :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21093200 Thu, 11 Sep 2008 11:02:41 EDT wow! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21093030 Tails : Playing the beta. It's. SO. MUCH. FUN.

How can you compare this to WoW? I just don't understand it.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21093030 Thu, 11 Sep 2008 10:26:12 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21093011 gaforces :

said by pp03

:

I too have been a long time player of MMO's, yes the days of EQ leveling your ability to see North, being blind in the dark, leveling your swimming, etc.

What are these PvP comparisons you are coming up with? I guess I missed the part where a healer and dps can't go on for hours in PvP without dying in WoW. What is Warhammer bringing to the table? The same long fights without a healer? How dumb would that be, I'm sorry if you PvP in WoW and your friend have not geared to it nor have some kind of synergy with your class. That happens when the classes are not unique and have more than four buttons a piece.

How is Warhammer PvP different? So the scenarios are new, eventually they will be as old to you as a four year old MMO's scenarios unless all they do is release new ones. Faction based PvP system, I've heard of that before, specific areas in PvE servers that still involve PvP and plenty of safe zones, heard of that before. You get gear over night and are ready to just PvP, what are we playing an RPG or an FPS. Ok, so you get gear fast and you are on a similar playing field -- how many times are you going to capture one of the two cities over and over again before you say...well, that was fun, I think I'm done.

What is unique, using machines in PvP? Won't be for long. The atmosphere is unique? lol, wait until you see WoTLK and its layout...talk about ambiance, 100x better than their previous work.

So tell me, what does Warhammer do that WoW doesn't for PvP?

Long fights? that is WoW with a healer. Scenarios? Those are battlegrounds (I don't care about mythics old RvR in DaOC, comparing WAR to WoW). Taking over cities, that is Halaa/Wintergrasp, two faction cities, versus two neutral.

What is WAR doing to blow us away? Why not play a game that trumps it in PvE and offers almost the same experience in PvP...which will only be amplified in the next couple months.

One of the unique things in WAR pvp is that the opposing faction can't just run by you.
I was playing a warrior priest and stood at a choke point on a bridge with healers and squishys behind me. A black orc and some marauders were trying to get by me to hit the healers and they couldnt because I was blocking. It took like 6 of the opposing faction to dislodge me to get to the healers.

Too bad the WOW devs hate paladins, I might have stayed playing ... Warrior Priest is a lot of fun and a lot more fun than my pally in WOW.
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said by Nightfall

said by pp03

said by JIGA

:

/facepalm

Brick wall anyone? Someone turn on the light for the poor lost WoW souls.

If I can save one person from paying for a terrible game, I've done my job.

You are right, after some massive battles now I tend to agree :), well I'm off this thread now :P
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said by pp03

said by JIGA

:

/facepalm

Brick wall anyone? Someone turn on the light for the poor lost WoW souls.

If I can save one person from paying for a terrible game, I've done my job.

The word "terrible" being relative here.

I am a long time WoW player and even I can say the PVP in WoW is a different breed than what you see here in WAR. In WoW, I get more 1v1 combat in world PVP. In WAR, its group tactics. There is very little to no 1v1 combat. This I prefer to be honest.

When it comes to choosing an MMORPG, it comes down to preference. After playing WoW for years, this game is quite good to me and I have no intentions to go back to WoW anytime soon.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21092455 Thu, 11 Sep 2008 08:01:48 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21092230 pp03 : I was being a douche. I gave this game another run through, non-chaos, did what the other post said about graphics and made it a little deeper to see the true divergent of classes. When I saw the absurdly small key bindings and remembered on the developer comments about keeping the abilities few -- then seeing what I had, I anticipated this to be the extent of the experience.

Also, as was mentioned the other starting zones were not quite so boring and bland, maybe they need to refresh chaos.

Seeing engineers put things up and having massive battles was not bad. As far as my first experience, I think that still stands. But, doing the tweaks and trying another race was good. I won't be picking it up, I don't see it being original enough to pull me away from WoW. But, it is a good game in its own right, calling it trash was not fair.
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said by JIGA

:

/facepalm

Brick wall anyone? Someone turn on the light for the poor lost WoW souls.

Yeah just give up, let people complain and bitch about the perfect MMO.

To each their own, less of a cluster fuck for me to wait in line for on launch. I'd rather not have any wow kiddies playing and complaining about random stuff during gameplay.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21091780 Thu, 11 Sep 2008 00:58:15 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21091559 gaforces : Waaagh!

]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21091559 Wed, 10 Sep 2008 23:45:06 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21091495 Mchart : Both games suck. There, no more arguments. I can't see how anyone can play either WAR or WoW.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21091495 Wed, 10 Sep 2008 23:30:20 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21091069 pr1mo :

said by Shatter

:

WOW's PvP is basically meaningless. You are placed into a bottle, you fight and do it long enough you get gear. For what? To do more of the same. PvPing doesnt offer what RvR offers, a reason to do it other then gear. Arenas IMO are one of the dumbest PvP ideas Ive seen in any game. I dont agree that pitting 2 teams head to head in a bottle and offer the best in PvP gear for doing arenas is a good idea. Most people do it that I know of just to get some points each week. Rogues dont even belong in an arena, they are a stealth class. I can beat 90%+ of anyone I fight in a BG cause they dont know im there, put me in an arena my enemy expects me and that win ratio drops because my ability to stealth and surprise is lost. Perfect example is hunters, arena opens and first thing they do is flare goes up. If I find a hunter in a BG hes not standing there with a flare waiting for me.

lool, if your win ratio goes down because a non-stealth enemy is expecting you, then you are bad. What is the difference between a hunter knowing you're there and not knowing you're coming? Flare or not, you can still get an opener. Don't cry about it if you can't avoid it. Annoys the fuck out of me when scrubs bring up "omfg rogue stealth shouldn't be in the game". Get over it.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21091069 Wed, 10 Sep 2008 21:56:04 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21090993 pp03 :

said by JIGA

:

/facepalm

Brick wall anyone? Someone turn on the light for the poor lost WoW souls.

If I can save one person from paying for a terrible game, I've done my job.
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Brick wall anyone? Someone turn on the light for the poor lost WoW souls.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21090818 Wed, 10 Sep 2008 21:12:56 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21090387 pp03 : I too have been a long time player of MMO's, yes the days of EQ leveling your ability to see North, being blind in the dark, leveling your swimming, etc.

What are these PvP comparisons you are coming up with? I guess I missed the part where a healer and dps can't go on for hours in PvP without dying in WoW. What is Warhammer bringing to the table? The same long fights without a healer? How dumb would that be, I'm sorry if you PvP in WoW and your friend have not geared to it nor have some kind of synergy with your class. That happens when the classes are not unique and have more than four buttons a piece.

How is Warhammer PvP different? So the scenarios are new, eventually they will be as old to you as a four year old MMO's scenarios unless all they do is release new ones. Faction based PvP system, I've heard of that before, specific areas in PvE servers that still involve PvP and plenty of safe zones, heard of that before. You get gear over night and are ready to just PvP, what are we playing an RPG or an FPS. Ok, so you get gear fast and you are on a similar playing field -- how many times are you going to capture one of the two cities over and over again before you say...well, that was fun, I think I'm done.

What is unique, using machines in PvP? Won't be for long. The atmosphere is unique? lol, wait until you see WoTLK and its layout...talk about ambiance, 100x better than their previous work.

So tell me, what does Warhammer do that WoW doesn't for PvP?

Long fights? that is WoW with a healer. Scenarios? Those are battlegrounds (I don't care about mythics old RvR in DaOC, comparing WAR to WoW). Taking over cities, that is Halaa/Wintergrasp, two faction cities, versus two neutral.

What is WAR doing to blow us away? Why not play a game that trumps it in PvE and offers almost the same experience in PvP...which will only be amplified in the next couple months.
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PvP is more enjoyable for me in WH mostly because DPS isnt jacked up - at least in Tier 1 PvP. When a fight lasts more than 5 seconds strategy and teamwork come into play. I think thats the key difference in separating the two games. If DPS goes off balance in WH end game, it'll be just another WoW clone.

I've also done DDO (Dungeons and Dragons Online) for awhile, PvP is almost non-existent, but combat is in real-time so it adds a lot to PvE gameplay. ie: you could dodge arrows ala dodging rockets in quake.

I think a combination of warhammer's RvR system into real-time combat would make the ideal MMO.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21089142 Wed, 10 Sep 2008 16:16:51 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21088630 Shatter : WOW's PvP is basically meaningless. You are placed into a bottle, you fight and do it long enough you get gear. For what? To do more of the same. PvPing doesnt offer what RvR offers, a reason to do it other then gear. Arenas IMO are one of the dumbest PvP ideas Ive seen in any game. I dont agree that pitting 2 teams head to head in a bottle and offer the best in PvP gear for doing arenas is a good idea. Most people do it that I know of just to get some points each week. Rogues dont even belong in an arena, they are a stealth class. I can beat 90%+ of anyone I fight in a BG cause they dont know im there, put me in an arena my enemy expects me and that win ratio drops because my ability to stealth and surprise is lost. Perfect example is hunters, arena opens and first thing they do is flare goes up. If I find a hunter in a BG hes not standing there with a flare waiting for me. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21088630 Wed, 10 Sep 2008 14:52:30 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21087505 badtrip :

said by Nightfall

:

Warhammer brings so much more to the table than WoW. For one, it's a PVP game at it's core. If that doesn't excite you then definitely this game is not for you. I could deal with 800x600@16 in Warhammer, solely because of the RVR aspect, siege weapons, and the way battles are played out between players. No more 5 second fights between players like craptastic WoW's PVP.

IMO, WH's PvP is much better than WoW's. But from what I've played, WoW's PvE is much better than WH's. However, there's only so far you can go in PvE until you hit that invisible wall where there's nothing left to do. A good PvP mechanic pushes that invisible wall out pretty far, however and WH's PvP mechanic is really good.

I'm a hardcore PvPer, mostly FPS games, since the days of Doom and I've been aching for a good new PvP game for a while now. The problem was that FPS game maps seem so small and constricting these days after being used to PvPing in the wide open game worlds of MMORPGs. I'm hoping WH's PvP stays good as my toon levels up. If not, maybe I'll have to take up PvP gardening or something...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21087505 Wed, 10 Sep 2008 11:33:27 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21087162 Shatter : Yup AOC is a perfect example of that. Beautiful game(you pay for that beauty w/ lower FPS, stuttering and performance) but the rest of the game is a complete cluster F, even 4 months after it went live. Ill take a less graphic game with great performance(this is one of the reasons WOW does well BTW). In Warhammer I have never once lagged up in any PvP battle with 20 people on my screen at one time with graphics maxed. I also havent lagged in areas with a ton of newbs at level 1 all doing the ame quest. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21087162 Wed, 10 Sep 2008 10:26:39 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21086875 JIGA :

said by Nightfall

:

To be honest I would rather have a game with graphics like this that is fun to play instead of a graphical masterpiece that is crap to play.

AoC comes to mind :p While that game was beautiful, it was just plain ole boring. The combat was nice and different, but that didn't make up for the lack of other areas.

Don't get me wrong guys, I did enjoy the heck out of WoW and I will still play it time to time even in the future. But WoW has became more of a "hmmm, I'm bored, guess I'll go gank a few for shits and giggles" type game. The been there done that has been over exhausted in WoW. Again, like I said earlier, I pray WotLK brings something new and inventive to the table, if it's just more of the same WoW then I'm sad to say Bliz is going to lose some customers.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21086875 Wed, 10 Sep 2008 09:24:17 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21086591 Nightfall :

said by JIGA

:

Makes me wonder if WoW was the first MMO for you guys that dislike Warhammer. If so, I can understand why easy mode is so apealing to you all.

I've played through EQ, EQ2, DAOC, AO, Eve, and WoW. Of all those games WoW was the easiest, the most casual friendly in terms of leveling/soloing. While that aspect of the game is good, it also makes it boring. And WoW's release was no cake walk either... The worst thing is WoW is a PVE game with PVP as an after thought, which makes WoW fail for so many players. I guess if you are a PVE'er, you'll love WoW. I for one hate PVE, it's boring and a waste of time. I'm sure many of the PVP'ers that are sick and tired of the same 4 BG's over and over and over and over, or the team deathmatch pathetic excuse called arena's, will move on. I know I am tired of that BS and that is why I am taking a long break from WoW. I pray WotLK brings something new, but I highly doubt it. WoW is already a PVE'ers game... sad, it could be much more. I'll give WotLK about 4+ months to get some decent player reviews in.

Warhammer brings so much more to the table than WoW. For one, it's a PVP game at it's core. If that doesn't excite you then definitely this game is not for you. I could deal with 800x600@16 in Warhammer, solely because of the RVR aspect, siege weapons, and the way battles are played out between players. No more 5 second fights between players like craptastic WoW's PVP.

If you seriously cannot look past initial release bugs/problems, or that the "graphics" are bad (lamest excuse ever) then it's better for the Warhammer community that you didn't play.

I also agree with you Jiga. I am also a long time player of MMORPGs and the exact thing that frustrated me about WoW was the PVE. Thats all there was in the game. When I decided to not PVE anymore, the game got to be a chore to play. Sure, I played the same 4 battlegrounds over and over and over again. I got some of my tier 1 epics after many many hours, but after that I was just burned out. Arenas? I played them for a while, and was just not happy with their implementation.

Just as Jiga said, if you are into PVP this game is for you. If you are into PVE, then WoW is probably your best bet.

As for the graphics, I think they look just fine to me. I turned the graphics all the way up and played 1920x1200 on my widescreen monitor and they look fine. Better than WoW but not spectacular. To be honest I would rather have a game with graphics like this that is fun to play instead of a graphical masterpiece that is crap to play.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21086591 Wed, 10 Sep 2008 07:57:06 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21086561 Shatter : I agree with Jiga, if you think the game looks like an old turd then dont play it. I got the CE and get to start playing Sunday and I think the game looks great and plays great. Ive greatly enjoyed the PvP so far and look forward to high level PvP/RvR battles. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21086561 Wed, 10 Sep 2008 07:43:25 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21086489 JIGA : Makes me wonder if WoW was the first MMO for you guys that dislike Warhammer. If so, I can understand why easy mode is so apealing to you all.

I've played through EQ, EQ2, DAOC, AO, Eve, and WoW. Of all those games WoW was the easiest, the most casual friendly in terms of leveling/soloing. While that aspect of the game is good, it also makes it boring. And WoW's release was no cake walk either... The worst thing is WoW is a PVE game with PVP as an after thought, which makes WoW fail for so many players. I guess if you are a PVE'er, you'll love WoW. I for one hate PVE, it's boring and a waste of time. I'm sure many of the PVP'ers that are sick and tired of the same 4 BG's over and over and over and over, or the team deathmatch pathetic excuse called arena's, will move on. I know I am tired of that BS and that is why I am taking a long break from WoW. I pray WotLK brings something new, but I highly doubt it. WoW is already a PVE'ers game... sad, it could be much more. I'll give WotLK about 4+ months to get some decent player reviews in.

Warhammer brings so much more to the table than WoW. For one, it's a PVP game at it's core. If that doesn't excite you then definitely this game is not for you. I could deal with 800x600@16 in Warhammer, solely because of the RVR aspect, siege weapons, and the way battles are played out between players. No more 5 second fights between players like craptastic WoW's PVP.

If you seriously cannot look past initial release bugs/problems, or that the "graphics" are bad (lamest excuse ever) then it's better for the Warhammer community that you didn't play.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21086489 Wed, 10 Sep 2008 07:09:13 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21086402 pp03 :

said by Mchart

:

So I got an open beta key. Took about a day to download because of the fileplanet line. Installed no issues, runs just fine.

But christ. The game looks like ass. It looks way worse then WoW. However, I can deal with bad visual's if a game is fun - And this game is definatly not fun in my book. I feel like i'm playing WoW. Simple combat mechanics, lack of any real customization beyond that which is purely visual, boring fields of play; just plain boring really. I feel like i'm playing a slightly different version of WoW. Sure, it has some cool RvR features - But that doesn't change the fact that it looks like, plays like, and might as well smell like WoW.

Salute.

If they didn't do stress test/open betas, I'd just wait for someone else to tell me how terrible the game is. Not hard.

I still see the file for the World of Warcraft stress test is up on Fileplanet, it's funny...I guess when you do it right it sells games.

I think this is where you are off: It is an OPEN BETA/STRESS TEST! Not closed beta, not we are working on things beta. Stress tests are just that, the expected FINAL PRODUCT being pushed to its limits to fix last minute hassles.

If the game looks like a turd that has been sitting in my toilet over night in their final polish, server load push, it will look like a gigantic turd on opening day.

I'm sorry, the companies don't care to hear about our little critiques on OPEN/FINAL STRESS TEST BETA.

This is the final game, the only points that possible couldn't be valid are latency/fps issues/disconnects. Those were not an issue, hot damn they meet the server load demand, too bad they forgot not to make the game suck.

Anyways, I'll keep my open betas as the free play, you stay off and just imagine that my input is valid a week before release.

PS. Other than latency the WoW STRESS test was extraordinary, their only issues were server crashes/over load. The game itself was as sexy and fun as ever, WARHAMMER BLOWS!
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But christ. The game looks like ass. It looks way worse then WoW. However, I can deal with bad visual's if a game is fun - And this game is definatly not fun in my book. I feel like i'm playing WoW. Simple combat mechanics, lack of any real customization beyond that which is purely visual, boring fields of play; just plain boring really. I feel like i'm playing a slightly different version of WoW. Sure, it has some cool RvR features - But that doesn't change the fact that it looks like, plays like, and might as well smell like WoW.
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Finally after 3 days I got my key sorted, game got patched and it sayd it missed a .dll and told me to reinstall -.-
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said by Badger3k

:

While your complaints are valid, and I agree with some of them keep in mind its a beta. You are playing to test and stress their systems to avoid a horrible launch.

A slow 100mb patch for a beta I'm fine with. A slow 100mb patch on a live game not so much. These Open Betas end up being a free trial for so many people I almost wish they wouldn't do them at all.

ok so im not the only one with that mindset. good to know.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21084356 Tue, 09 Sep 2008 19:23:01 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21084349 Smatchimo : how many of you are taking all this time to tell us how crappy the BETA is for this game, and then avoiding writing the game devs with these issues instead? isnt that the point of the beta?

if everyone would quit bitching about graphics and bugs in these kind of places, games may be a bit more polished when they are actually released!

No?
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said by Gundy

:

Sometimes it takes awhile I've noticed. Last night me and a buddy quested in chapter 3 for nearly 3 hours before we got an invite into the scenario.

Basically a confirmation dialog comes up asking if you want to join now, or wait a few minutes. Then after the scenario is complete, you start exactly where you left off.

Ah ok thanks, so I just needed to wait longer. I'll remember that for next time.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21083953 Tue, 09 Sep 2008 18:04:47 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21083883 Gundy : Sometimes it takes awhile I've noticed. Last night me and a buddy quested in chapter 3 for nearly 3 hours before we got an invite into the scenario.

Basically a confirmation dialog comes up asking if you want to join now, or wait a few minutes. Then after the scenario is complete, you start exactly where you left off.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21083883 Tue, 09 Sep 2008 17:54:53 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21083854 beatsnpieces : So what exactly happens when an RvR scenario is ready? Playing as a Dwarf Engineer this morning, I joined the queue for the first RvR scenario (selected Join Solo then clicked Ready)and I was ingame for about another 40mins after that but never got any notification that I could join. Am I doing something wrong? or is it just that nothing became ready?
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A slow 100mb patch for a beta I'm fine with. A slow 100mb patch on a live game not so much. These Open Betas end up being a free trial for so many people I almost wish they wouldn't do them at all.
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said by pp03

quote:
But meh, whatever right? I just can't help to laugh when peoples buying decision is solely on graphics alone. :huh:

Quote from warhammer alliance forum:
Originally Posted by GreenImp
This has been posted all over these forums:

You need to manually turn on anti-aliasing and anisotropic filters. The game has them turned off by default and does not have an option to enable them in-game.

I was not very impressed with the graphics at all when I first started. Then I enabled the above-mentioned settings and WOW! It's absolutely beautiful!!!!

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WoW has its good points and so does Warhammer. IMHO Warhammer takes the cake due to being a game built around PVP first, not an after thought like WoW's PVP.

Once I get out of my MMO break, about a year, I'll more than likely pick up WotLK and Warhammer. I see Warhammer getting 90% of my time though. :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21081080 Tue, 09 Sep 2008 10:03:33 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21080684 Nightfall :

said by JIGA

said by pp03

quote:
But meh, whatever right? I just can't help to laugh when peoples buying decision is solely on graphics alone. :huh:

The first person I attacked on both chars took like 10 special attacks to take down at level one.

You were level one or they were?

If you were in a RVR Scenario (Rank 1 through 12) then everyone is adjusted to Realm Rank 8 to make it an even playing field. That way low levels can jump right in and have fun.

The reason it takes so long to down someone is this game is not based 1v1 but Realm vs Realm with massive battles in mind. They, Mythic, don't want 5 second battles, they want you to have epic battles. This is the way it was in Dark Ages of Camelot as well. PVP took time to take each other out instead of the boring 5 second PVP like we see in WoW.

This is what makes PVP in Warhammer so much better than anything else out and it is the basis of the game.

I have to agree with you Jiga.

Unlike the arena PVP in WoW or battlegrounds for that matter, there are no two shot kills. I played a healer last night and did one of the scenario PVP battles a few times. I was only level 3, but I was elevated to level 8. I had a blast as there were times I was getting attacked by a few different people and was able to stay alive. If it was WoW, I would have been dead in 2-3 hits. At least I had a chance to kite them around or fight back a bit.

I thought the PVP in WoW was fun at one point before it became a button mashing game. WAR requires at least some skill to play.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21080684 Tue, 09 Sep 2008 08:18:45 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21080524 JIGA :

said by pp03

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But meh, whatever right? I just can't help to laugh when peoples buying decision is solely on graphics alone. :huh:

The first person I attacked on both chars took like 10 special attacks to take down at level one.

quote:
But meh, whatever right? I just can't help to laugh when peoples buying decision is solely on graphics alone. :huh:

Alright, just because the first thing that came to my mind was how horrible it looked doesn't mean that is all I'm basing my decision on.

The replay value is not there for me, each class I tried was not unique, the starting zone (chaos) had no depth. The first person I attacked on both chars took like 10 special attacks to take down at level one. When I was fighting it didn't even look like the mob wanted to attack me as much as slap my arm.

For a 100mb patch the download took forever, the character selection screen was better in Golden Axe. I'm sorry, the game was not my style and horrible from step one. Just like Vanguard, just like AoC, and the fact that you are not playing it speaks volumes to its content/originality. And really, I still play FF7 and all my favorite classic games, graphics are of no major consequence. But ambiance within its limits would be nice, I didn't feel like I was in a war.
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http://www.warcry.com/contests/register/warhammerbeta

If you want the key, sign up, login, make sure you click your over 13 years old, get the key...

Proof:

Good luck :)

PS - Download the game now from a torrent (directly from the publisher)
http://torrent2.eamythic.com/WarBeta.torrent

(directly from mythic, no mininova junk :) )]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21079159 Mon, 08 Sep 2008 22:13:56 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21078490 Forlin : I'm waiting for about a year before I pick this up, after AoC I've learned my lesson (I might go back to that one then as well).

Fact is it takes about 6 months to a year after release for these games to get the polished feel we expect these days.

The overall comment from friends who came back to WoW was "at least it works". They were fed up of patches that significantly screwed up their classes.

So if it lasts an entire year with a reasonable user base, then I will definitely look at this.

WoW is losing about 100K accounts a week at the moment, due to the lack of new content - especially true for non-hardcore players. They might also be picking up 100K accounts a week, but apparently Blizzard are worried and trying to rush out WotLK in response.

All of the nerfs to attunement and the easy access to top gear has made the game too boring for hardcore players, and yet large parts of the best stuff is still inaccessible to casual gamers.

But at least it works.

If the expansion is just more of the same, then I'll be leaving too. If it actually has new ideas and genuinely new content (not just re-packaged and re-skinned zones, quests and mobs, which is all BC ended up being) then I'll stay with it.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21078490 Mon, 08 Sep 2008 20:28:58 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21076398 badtrip :

said by Jaghar

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I played yesterday and had a blast.

However I do understand what people are saying about the graphics. I was surprised at the graphics quality of the beta. Games that I've played recently, EQ2 and LoTRO have better graphics. With that said, I positively do not think that the beta graphics represent what we will have when the game goes retail.

I agree that ATM, LORTO and EQ2 look better. However, graphics in the beta have been turned down to "medium" levels. We'll have to wait for the full game to see what Warhammer really looks like...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21076398 Mon, 08 Sep 2008 13:27:02 EDT Open Beta http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21076388 badtrip : I played almost all day Sunday, 9_7_08.

What I liked:

Public quests and the chance at stat improving loot immediately. Public quests are great. They are scripted events that include boss mobs that reset every few minutes and at the end the top contributors to the event get to choose their reward from a small list of loot. However, the public quest mechanic fails horribly when you are in a low player population zone. I played PQs in the greenskin, chaos and dark elf starting zones. The dark elf PQ I played was the most fun. It included a battle between Dragons where you and your comrades kill a dragon at the end. I probably played that one 5 or six times in a row.

It was easy to find a group. You click on a tab on your avatar's portrait and a list of groups with what they are doing and how far they are from you pops up. No /w folks, no advertising in trade, very simple and seamless.

RvR (PvP). You get XP from killing folks in the opposite faction. I leveled two times in the Chaos starting zone's RvR scenario. This game really seems bent towards RvR and the devs put plenty of RvR opportunities in the gameworld. Plus I like the fact that they rank you up in the RvR scenarios so you don't just get WTFPWNED as a rank3 by a bunch of rank10s.

The mobs don't aggro from a mile away. This is the thing that made me stop playing LotRO after 20 levels. I hated that you couldn't get within 20 yards of a worm without it charging you. You practically have to backhand a mob in Warhammer to aggro it. That's a good thing IMO.

The dark elf starting zone kicks ass here to next thursday and back again. The dark elves are awesome, period.

What I didn't like:

The lag**. Most of the servers I tried were laggy. The funny thing is, it didn't seem like the latency was too bad, maybe 300ms or so but either way the lag completely destroys the gameplay. Mobs "teleport" to you instead of running. Your casting sequence gets thrown off because of the lag. Sometimes you press a button and the spell registers, sometimes it says "Ability not Ready" sometimes the spell doesn't register at all. When you have the mob almost killed and he begins to "run in fear", the mob just stands there and a second later dies.

Further, the framerate seems to be tied to the latecy. On laggy servers, the framerate is horrible, especially when there are more than a handful of other players in your field of view. On non-laggy servers, the framerate stays solid no matter what is on screen on my cpu at least.

Put bluntly, if the devs don't do something about the way latency is dealt with in the game or find a way to reduce it, it becomes a deal breaker.

No polish.** No game-breaking bugs that I saw and the game isn't bug ridden, but the bugs are very noticeable. I came across a bugged RvR area where you couldn't attack the NPC that you need to kill in order to complete the zone objective. Some of the lack of polish could be attributed to the fact that the beta's graphics are turned down to medium. As a result, the game doesn't look very good.

The grind. Personal opinion...the grind isn't as bad as WoW's grind but it is a grind none-the-less.

The Chaos starting zone was boring. Although the Chaos faction is pretty awesome.

**It's a beta, though...

Overall, Warhammer has some good stuff going for it, especially for PVPers. At this time, I have no plans for canceling my preorder but I also have no plans of subscribing right away. I'll probably play it for the full free month before making my final decision...

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said by Jaghar

I don't see how the graphics look worse than EQ2. I never played LoTRO, but think the graphics even in the beta are nice and look good. Might just be a per person thing though.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21076366 Mon, 08 Sep 2008 13:21:48 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21076081 Jaghar : I played yesterday and had a blast.

However I do understand what people are saying about the graphics. I was surprised at the graphics quality of the beta. Games that I've played recently, EQ2 and LoTRO have better graphics. With that said, I positively do not think that the beta graphics represent what we will have when the game goes retail.
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The only bugs I have found in the game are pathing problems by mobs and those are few and far between. I would also get a few lag spikes here and there when the population was full on the server. Still, I got no lag on the RVR scenarios which is a good thing.

A few things that I haven't seen yet are world RVR. I can't believe how huge the area is and how many areas you can go to. I can only assume once you get up there in levels that world RVR will be going in full force. Right now everyone is 10 or under so people are just doing the RVR scenario.

I played WoW for years and stopped playing back about 4 months ago. I did log in once in that time period and just got physically ill. I didn't want to play the game for various reasons. The gold grind was just not thrilling. The rep grind wasn't fun. The PVE wasn't attractive to me anymore. The PVP was exciting, but only 4 battlegrounds and no real world PVP? Just boring to me. At least here I see all kinds of exciting promise when it comes to RVR and PVP combat.

I will be sticking with this game for a while.
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I agree that the graphics are very different from Wow and take some getting use to, but overall I don't think they hurt the gameplay at all. Also, there has been some slight lag, but I attribute that (until I see otherwise) to the number of people in the realms and the number of people in the starting areas. Finally, I have seen some pathing issues with some of the mobs, but its infrequent (1 out of 50 mobs).

So far, I have only hit level 6 and I am just getting out of the starting area. I have really enjoyed the RvR scenarios. I like that you can level up in them and they are great ways to get new and better equipment. Hopefully this will continue into the next areas that I visit.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21075051 Mon, 08 Sep 2008 09:00:10 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21074926 Nightfall : I played last night for a few hours. I really enjoyed it. The RVR battle scenario was a load of fun. I did that as well as the public quests. Don't know how far I will play through the game as this is only the beta, but its a lot of fun so far.
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said by pp03

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Well, I logged in today for the first time.

I'm sorry, I already hate this game more than I hated Age of Conan and I hated AoC a lot.

All graphics turned up, it still looked horrible, I'd rather play a Nintendo game. Nothing to do with similar game play mechanics to WoW, just how it looks...even at four years of age the ambiance of the OLD WORLD WoW zones trump this game.

Good thing I just got into the WoTLK beta, now that is good. Hot damn, I love you Blizzard.
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Even though I have opted not to play Warhammer, I still gotta chime in on this post.

The graphics aren't worse, they are better. WoW's graphics are more colorful and cartoony. War's are more dark, and if I'm correct all of the final graphics options are not even turned on yet... Open beta is not an indication of the final retail product.

But meh, whatever right? I just can't help to laugh when peoples buying decision is solely on graphics alone. :huh:]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21074707 Mon, 08 Sep 2008 06:42:33 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21072210 pp03 : Well, I logged in today for the first time.

I'm sorry, I already hate this game more than I hated Age of Conan and I hated AoC a lot.

All graphics turned up, it still looked horrible, I'd rather play a Nintendo game. Nothing to do with similar game play mechanics to WoW, just how it looks...even at four years of age the ambiance of the OLD WORLD WoW zones trump this game.

Good thing I just got into the WoTLK beta, now that is good. Hot damn, I love you Blizzard.
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First off, my impressions of the game are of only a few hours playing the preview beta this last weekend.
To start, if you've played World Of Warcraft, or any of MMO for that matter, you'll know the basic controls.
The game's graphics looks similar to WoW.
I spent most of my time playing the Squig Herder class.
They are on the Chaos side, the bad guys.
The Squig Herder is a pet class.
If you've played the Hunter class in WoW, the Squig Herder plays similar.
About the game, quests are easy to obtain and quest locations are easy to find. The map will show you where quest objectives can be completed.
I didn't notice that many bugs. The one glaring bug I did notice was pathing issues of enemy mobs and your pet.
Many times, enemy mobs would not run straight at me if I pulled aggro. A lot of times the enemy mobs would run around invisible objects or would go around objects that weren't in its way.
My pet also had similar issues. A lot of times, my pet would run around invisible objects after I sent it to attack an enemy.
My pet also had a tendency to not attack a mob after I pressed the attack command. Sometimes it would take several seconds for my pet to attack. I would have to press the pet attack command button several times.
One last thing about my pet, I noticed that it didn't follow me all the time. It would sometimes just stay at a certain spot even though I was on the move and pressing the follow pet command.
Also, I noticed collision issues, and slow loading textures.
One of the features that I like a lot was something called public quests. If you enter a certain designated area (public quests area) you will automatically be given objectives to complete. Usually the public quests will be broken down in to 4 stages. The first couple of stages can be soloed but the last couple of stages you'll need a good.
Finding a group can be easy. Warhammer Online has a feature called open groups. Once you enter a public quest area if there are any open groups they will be displayed on your UI and all you need to do to join the group is to type /join (the group leader's name) in the chat window. The open group leader's name will be displayed on your UI.
Public quests are really a cool idea. I could see a lot of new MMOs borrowing this feature from the developers, Mythic.
Another cool feature is the game will allow you to completely customize your UI. Remove, resize, and move anything on the UI. You can do all of that without having to install a add-on.
Over all, I liked the game. I could see this game becoming the 2nd most popular, in terms of paid accounts, MMO behind WoW.
That being said, I most likely will not purchase the game when it is released in the middle of September.
I already have preordered the Wraith Of The Lich King, WoW's xpac. I only have time to play one game at a time. Also, money is kind of tight right now. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21014888 Wed, 27 Aug 2008 13:23:03 EDT World Wide WAAAGH! is coming http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21014834 beatsnpieces : WAR has officially gone gold as of Aug. 26

»www.warhammeronline.com/pressrel···0826.php]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21014834 Wed, 27 Aug 2008 13:08:44 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21014011 markopoleo : I found this video of a bright wizard, this was from closed beta i believe based on his level. He plays it very well.

»anon-defender.blogspot.com/2008/···vie.html

Also if you want to lots of info about warhammer, go to »www.wardb.com/ has lots of info.

I played the preview weekend and had a blast, glad i preordered the game. The bugs/complaints I had was minor, mythic knows about as is working to fix them.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21014011 Wed, 27 Aug 2008 10:24:51 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21013619 Shatter : I did play the preview weekend and didnt once think of anything from a graphics standpoint "X reminds me of WOW". The only thing that reminded me of WOW was the UI. My understanding as well is that they havent allowed beta users yet to see the high quality graphics yet and the highest is currently at medium level. TBH I could care less how much it might look like WOW if at all as long as performance is good and from what I saw over the weekend I had great FPS. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21013619 Wed, 27 Aug 2008 09:00:17 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21011142 Neyland : Ok]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21011142 Tue, 26 Aug 2008 18:47:26 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21010685 JIGA :

said by Neyland

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And the answer would be yes...

Does the poly count look higher? Yes
Does an Orc in WH look like the same cartoony Orc in WoW? Yes

Hmm, must be your monitor. IMO, the graphics don't look anything like WoW.

WoW is bright cartoony graphics. War's is more dark and not as cartoonish, but cartoony to an extent. WoW still takes the cake on cartoony graphics though.

Wars graphics look more like Dark Ages of Camelot's graphics to me, which it should considering it's on the same engine as DAOC :) And DAOC was out way before WoW ever was.
»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NetImmerse

And I don't see how you think these 2 orcs look the same.

Snapped 2008-08-26 17:11:35

»www.criticalgamers.com/archives/···8.07.jpg

Snapped 2008-08-26 17:11:27

»wow.allakhazam.com/images/fashio···sOrc.jpg

After playing WoW for damn near 4 years then playing War's closed beta for roughly 2 weeks, I can say 100% that their graphics DO NOT look anything alike.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21010685 Tue, 26 Aug 2008 17:16:39 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21010559 Neyland : And the answer would be yes...

Does the poly count look higher? Yes
Does an Orc in WH look like the same cartoony Orc in WoW? Yes]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21010559 Tue, 26 Aug 2008 16:49:14 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21009082 JIGA :

said by Neyland

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I don't see how you can possible say this doesn't look like the WoW graphics engine... it's the same basic cartoon skins.

I have to ask Neyland, did you play in the closed beta or during the preview weekend?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21009082 Tue, 26 Aug 2008 12:09:58 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21008737 Gundy :

said by Neyland

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I don't see how you can possible say this doesn't look like the WoW graphics engine... it's the same basic cartoon skins.

Yeah you're right it looks the exact same. Mythic shouldn't have used the same engine.. Oh wait.

»image.com.com/gamespot/images/20···n004.jpg
»image.com.com/gamespot/images/20···n004.jpg]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21008737 Tue, 26 Aug 2008 11:04:08 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21008472 Neyland : I don't see how you can possible say this doesn't look like the WoW graphics engine... it's the same basic cartoon skins.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21008472 Tue, 26 Aug 2008 10:09:29 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21004874 Gundy : Its still the beta, hopefully since they let alot more players into the game to test it for the weekend preview they'll get patched.

I know the pet pathing was terrible, so was the mob pathing. I didn't experience much of the zerg fest to be honest. There were a few standoffs but it usually ended pretty quickly with a few groups running in and destroying the other realm.

None of my scenarios crashed, nor my buddies when we played damn near all weekend. Didn't experience the memory leak either.

I was pretty happy with the game, considering its beta still. I do hope that mythic jumps ontop of those annoying bugs you listed as well as what I listed before release.

The most annoying was the pathing, and the disappearing of quest/vendor/trainer icons for the townsfolk.
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As for Warhammer, if I weren't burnt on MMO's I would play it. I guess I can list some of the cons about the game.

There are still lingering bugs in the game.
Unable to attack some targets/target not attack-able.
Some PQ quest mobs will bug out then you and everyone else have to wait for the timer to count down for it to reset.

You can get stuck on damn near anything... Rocks, trees, ledges, sides of buildings, other players in RVR combat.
Mobs seem a bit buggy right now, but it is in favor for us. For instance, ranged attackers have a huge plus with this bug right now. If you range attack a mob it will sometimes just sit there for about 2 attacks or it will run away a small length then come back. This gives you about 4+ extra attacks before the mob even reaches you.

RVR Scenarios - During the preview weekend, these "instances" were very unstable. About 6/10 would crash. I'm not sure why or if they did it on purpose... all you would see is "Region Shutdown in 30 secs, 15 secs, 5 secs" and you were booted back to the server selection screen.

RVR Zerg Fest - This happened in DAOC as well. It doesn't really bother me that much, but just be forewarned... expect zergs. For the solo player... find a group.

There also seems to be a memory leak possibly. After 4 to 5+ hours of playing all kinds of stuff is lingering around. Spell animations, loot sparkles, target arrows, and other junk are floating around. It can cause your PC to crash, mine never did but my buddies did about 1 time per hour. I also checked my task manager when this was happening and noticed the game taking upwards of 1 million memory usage, yes that's 1,000,000 in memory usage under the task manager.

The issues were small though, nothing overly game breaking. Bugs of this nature can be expected with any new MMO release. These games are HUGE undertakings by the development teams.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21002903 Mon, 25 Aug 2008 10:06:31 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21002554 Nightfall :

said by JIGA

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As much as I am enjoying Warhammer, I think I'm going to take a break from MMO's for a while. Warhammer's grind isn't that bad, doesn't even really feel like a grind when your having fun leveling off of killing other players. I just don't feel like going through another leveling game...

Time for a break from MMO's for me, but I do highly suggest Warhammer as any ones next MMO. Definitely a great PVP game.

I took a break for the last 3 months. Will be 4.5 by the time Warhammer comes out. I am going through with my preorder after hearing what people like and don't like about the game. There are some really good very detailed reviews over at the Warhammer Alliance Forums.

JIGA, maybe you can take about 3 weeks off and then play when Warhammer is released. :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21002554 Mon, 25 Aug 2008 08:19:37 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21002388 JIGA : As much as I am enjoying Warhammer, I think I'm going to take a break from MMO's for a while. Warhammer's grind isn't that bad, doesn't even really feel like a grind when your having fun leveling off of killing other players. I just don't feel like going through another leveling game...

Time for a break from MMO's for me, but I do highly suggest Warhammer as any ones next MMO. Definitely a great PVP game.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21002388 Mon, 25 Aug 2008 06:40:57 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21000578 pp03 : I'm pretty excited for this game still -- but with this one I'll be very cautious. If people are still laying he praise down three months after release, I'll pick it up.

With time becoming ever more limited, I would rather spend that time in the best and right now that (for me at least) is WoW, though I'd hope this game tops it.

Between WoTLK and this though, there is no doubt where my money is going. Blizzard has never let me down, and the exceeding push for letting casual players see all raid content in the 10 man variation is just amazing to me.

Keep this thread updated with your opinions on WARH, I really will enjoy reading them -- possibly get me to quit wow :P
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I will also add that I agree with Jiga, it has a DAoC feel to it. And that is definetly NOT a bad thing. People say this game is a wow clone.. False, all mmorpgs coming out are going to have the same base feel. AND it for SURE doesn't look like WoW. No cartoony graphics in my opinion, its alot darker feel. Go kill X amount of mobs, or same quest type system, or green/blue/purple items etc.. WoW did really well as a mmorpg as much as I hate to admit it, and making other games similar to the game play helps people play quicker. Then again WAR adds new stuff, the RVR is beyond anything blizzard could do, not to mention the public quests in my previous post. I used to like WoW, but after seeing the endgame pvp was terrible and repetitive I quit.

But I urge anyone looking into this game to give it a far chance. About time we had a new mmorpg. And if you still say its a wow clone, don't play - that way I don't hear your bitching in game!

EDIT: I forgot to mention, the scenarios are great fun. Being able to PVP so low level really opens alot of options up in the game.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20995003 Sat, 23 Aug 2008 11:25:53 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20994669 Nightfall :

said by Gundy

:

Well after spending most of the night playing the weekend preview, I've gotta say I'm definetly picking this game up. I already had it my mindset to do so, but this just verified it. The gameplay is really fun, jumping into scenarios at level 5 is just crazy fun. Throwing people into PVP that quick is a really cool feature in my opinion. And the public quests, man this game is great.

I haven't gotten that high level, since the characters are we playing now will get erased I've been trying pretty much all of chars. So far they are all pretty fun. I can't get over the enviroments & sound, really puts the atmosphere together.

From all the videos I have seen, I am eager to try this game as well. So far, a majority of the reviews look very good. Sure, some people don't like the game but that is expected. When a vast majority approve of the game, then its worth looking at.

The only disadvantage is that I would like to try this game out before it comes out. It is released on September 18th which is a day before I leave for a 4 day vacation up north to go wine tasting. Which means I will be able to play the open beta, and then an evening on release, but I will have to leave Friday morning and I won't be back until Monday. Bummer deal! :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20994669 Sat, 23 Aug 2008 09:39:56 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20994246 Gundy : Well after spending most of the night playing the weekend preview, I've gotta say I'm definetly picking this game up. I already had it my mindset to do so, but this just verified it. The gameplay is really fun, jumping into scenarios at level 5 is just crazy fun. Throwing people into PVP that quick is a really cool feature in my opinion. And the public quests, man this game is great.

I haven't gotten that high level, since the characters are we playing now will get erased I've been trying pretty much all of chars. So far they are all pretty fun. I can't get over the enviroments & sound, really puts the atmosphere together.
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I believe Open RVR will still be limited to Tier groups, that way you don't have some Rank 40 person coming into a Tier 1, Rank 1 though 11, ganking everyone in sight.

Again, not 100% sure on that.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20991521 Fri, 22 Aug 2008 16:07:25 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20991428 beatsnpieces : So basically Open RvR is for all the tools who think ganking lowbies makes them cool. Chickenizing alone makes Mythic > Blizzard. I love the standard Blizzard response to griefing: "any issues arising can be solved by the PvP mechanics of the game." Because it's so easy to fight back against a 70 when you are level 20... idiots. Of course I could then hop on my 70 and get into battle with the ganking idiots and end up wasting all the time I wanted to spend levelling my lowbie instead fighting the gankers. WAR is such a refreshing change from the idiot infested grind-a-thon that WoW has become.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20991428 Fri, 22 Aug 2008 15:51:45 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20991297 anon : Definetly role on one of the Open RvR servers if playing on a PvP server is your thing in WoW. Open RvR servers in WAR are perfect because you can kill lower level players and grieve them till your hearts desired. Of course, you'll find the hardcore RvR's on the Core RvR (aka Normal) servers where the fighting against each other is at the same levels. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20991297 Fri, 22 Aug 2008 15:30:13 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20990848 Nightfall :

said by JIGA

said by Shatter

:

Jiga, are all the servers the same or do they have different server types?

I have played only on PVP servers in WoW. So I am assuming probably RVR server would be just for me. :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20990848 Fri, 22 Aug 2008 14:10:24 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20990508 JIGA :

said by Shatter

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Jiga, are all the servers the same or do they have different server types?

As of right now, they are all the same. At release they will have RP, Open, Normal.

RP is of course for the Role Playing fairies.
Open is RVR anywhere and everywhere.
Normal is the normal rule set the way Mythic intends for the game to be played. Tier zones with their RVR zones and RVR Scenarios

I hate to compare this to WoW but it is a good example.
Open is like WoW PVP servers BUT there is no safe zone anywhere.
Normal is sort of like WoW's PVE servers. You are safe in your PVE areas but once you enter the Tiers RVR area you are flagged for RVR combat.

There will be more Normal servers than the others. Any player vs player kill rewards XP and Renown Points.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20990508 Fri, 22 Aug 2008 13:11:55 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20990279 Shatter : Jiga, are all the servers the same or do they have different server types? ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20990279 Fri, 22 Aug 2008 12:29:42 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20990028 JIGA : Yeah.... I'm not to sure about the whole chicken thing. The way they have these Tiers setup is... well...

Tier 1 is Rank 1 through Rank 11 (ranks are levels). This Tier is a "zone". Within this zone is your faction, depending on what race you chose will be the primary race in this Tier. Other races can come to your Tier by taking a flight to it.

This Tier contains about 5+ towns/villages/camp that each have PVE quests, Public quests, and RVR Scenario quests. At the end of the Tier is the RVR area. You work your way down the zone gaining levels till you eventually hit the last town/village/camp and the RVR area is just a few feet away. It is similar to zoning from uncontested area to contested.

If a player from Tier 2 (Rank 12+) tries to come back to the Tier 1 RVR zone they get turned into a chicken. This is to prevent higher level players coming into these areas and pretty much raping the zone. Tier 1 players are meant for this RVR zone to compete over 2 forts. In RVR zones or RVR scenarios you gain EXP per kill and Renown Points which are used for purchashing gear. I only reached Ronown Rank 7 myself but it seemed PVE'ing was the better way to get gear. It might change in later levels.

Overall, I was very impressed with the RVR aspect. To me it felt that they brought over the great aspect of RVR from Dark Ages of Camelot and broke it down into Zones of war. RVR (PvPing) will be the MAIN aspect in this game. Hell, I gained level 5 to 7 on my Squig Herder just from playing in RVR, NO PVE NEEDED! :D It was great.
»warhammeronline.wikia.com/wiki/Zone]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20990028 Fri, 22 Aug 2008 11:38:24 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20989163 Shatter :

said by JIGA

said by Shatter

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Warhammer does appear to be very much a WOW clone at least from a UI, quest and combat perspective. Ill confirm that tonight when I get to play :)

If you never have played DAOC and only WoW I can see why it would appear that way to you. Good thing is, War isn't a WoW clone or it would be crap.

Well Im hoping not, tired of WOW :)

Oh and I found this little blurb on a post someone made about the game, made me lol

RVR segregation

WAR contains a mechanism to prevent high level players from going to low level RVR areas. This is called "chickenizing." As described above, Tier 1 is defined as R1 through R11. Once a player hits R12, they cannot RVR in T1 zones any more. Therefore, if a R12 or higher player enters a T1 RVR area (i.e, if he's flagged) he turns into a chicken. The chicken can use no abilities, and his only attack is a peck that does 1 point of damage. Once chickenized, you remain so until you log out or die (and resurrect unflagged).]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20989163 Fri, 22 Aug 2008 08:40:06 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20989129 JIGA :

said by Shatter

:

Warhammer does appear to be very much a WOW clone at least from a UI, quest and combat perspective. Ill confirm that tonight when I get to play :)

If you never have played DAOC and only WoW I can see why it would appear that way to you. Good thing is, War isn't a WoW clone or it would be crap.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20989129 Fri, 22 Aug 2008 08:31:17 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20989112 Shatter : Warhammer does appear to be very much a WOW clone at least from a UI, quest and combat perspective. Ill confirm that tonight when I get to play :) ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20989112 Fri, 22 Aug 2008 08:24:30 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20989050 Nightfall : For those of you who got into the preview weekend, did you just get an email with an invitation? I have been waiting to try this game out for a while and I haven't been selected. Its depressing. I already get the warhammer automated emails.

I really didn't want to wait until the open beta hits a week before the game is released. Looks like that might be the case.
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said by Gundy

:

I agree Jiga, however I was impressed by how well the 'medium' settings looked.

I can't wait to get to playing this game. I played the hell out of DAOC.

I was digging through wikipedia about Warhammer Online and found that the engine it is running on is the same, modified more than likely, engine that DAOC runs on.
»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NetImmerse

I guess that's why this game brings back so many memories of DAOC for me. It looks and feels like DAOC IMO.

That's why I laugh my ass off so hard when I see people call Warhammer a WoW clone... If anything, Warhammer is a DAOC clone!! Which is a good thing :D

said by Shivra :

Those pics look pretty good and the UI is awesome.

Oh yeah Shiv, one thing about the UI. You can turn on a UI Editor in game and move ANYTHING around which is very nice.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20989043 Fri, 22 Aug 2008 07:56:24 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20982504 Gundy : I agree Jiga, however I was impressed by how well the 'medium' settings looked.

I can't wait to get to playing this game. I played the hell out of DAOC.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20982504 Wed, 20 Aug 2008 22:30:43 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20981525 JIGA : I didn't get into Closed Beta fast enough to get access to the Beta Forums, but from what people say ingame is that the graphics are toned way down right now.

There are only 3 options so far, resolution, and 2 others. It looks pretty good ingame with just that but I can see it getting better. But in the end, gameplay>graphics for me.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20981525 Wed, 20 Aug 2008 19:19:06 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20981260 beatsnpieces : Those screens look great. It's looking alot nicer than many of the older screenshots out there made it look. I've got my beta client all loaded up and ready to go and I, for one, am really looking forward to Friday.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20981260 Wed, 20 Aug 2008 18:17:57 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20981222 Gundy : I finally got an invite to the weekend preview this morning. Woohoo.

And I heard that they've only implemented the medium graphics. They have yet to put in for a high setting, I could be wrong though. This is what my buddy whos in the closed beta told me a few weeks ago.
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It's still beta though. Improvements are being made to the graphics as well as more settings being enabled and ground foilage.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20981077 Wed, 20 Aug 2008 17:30:13 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20981041 JIGA : I didn't take many screenshots at all, but I did manage to capture these last night when starting a Squig Herder. Only got him up to Rank 7. This is from the first Public Quest for Greenskins.

]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20981041 Wed, 20 Aug 2008 17:19:57 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20980991 anon : Hmm, so I log out in my city one night and everything is hunky dorey. The next day I log in and that city is under seige by the enemy? I can participate in killing them to defend my city and then all the defenders can go and attack one of the enemy cities as payback? And, we can kill and loot the King of the city and ransack the city? How does this not sound fun to you?

I logged out 4 days ago in WoW. I usually log in each night for AB marks (working on completing my S2 set). If I remember correctly, we lost 4 out of 4 games in AB. All were close games lasting 30 min each. I got 4 marks (out of the needed 40) and about 700 honor out of 17K needed (Vind S2 Belt). Hmm, I didn't really enjoy myself.

Luckily I'm in the Preview this weekend for Warhammer. I'm looking forward to this nice change and honestly don't see myself going back to the WoW grind waiting for WoLK. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20980991 Wed, 20 Aug 2008 17:09:34 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20980919 JIGA : In my time playing the CB, about a week, I enjoyed the game. There are quite a few bugs lingering around but they seem to be small and not game breaking. I am liking this MUCH more than WoW. After 3+ years of WoW I'm happy to say Warhammer Online has finally came to replace it for me.

So far I have only played a Squig Herder to Rank 7, a Sorceress to 11.

The Sorc was VERY squishy... hard to live in RVR but no problem in PVE. The Backlash mechanic kind of sucks but is something a Sorc will have to get use to and learn. If you want those BIG crit numbers get ready to take some damage yourself.

Squig Herder was a blast for long range damage but the pets seem to be a bit bugged right now. Their not all that fluent in their movement and commands.

What I like best about this game? Realm vs Realm and Realm vs Realm Scenarios.
A Scenario is kind of like an instance, but within this scenario you gain Renown Points AND EXP for killing the enemy. You can pretty much just level by doing RVR only if you wanted to!

So there is pretty much 2 ways to level, RVR or PVE or a mix of both. Doing both will get you gear, but PVE seems to get you more gear. You do get gear from gaining Renown Ranks.

So much to tell about this game, hopefully some of you will make it into the Preview Weekend upcoming.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20980919 Wed, 20 Aug 2008 16:54:34 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20980856 Nightfall :

said by gaforces

said by Nightfall

said by gaforces

:

RvR is fun. I was blowing up greenskins/destruction players with the hellcannon as they were trying to zerg us outnumbered order players.
You can join the que for scenario RvR from the player UI.

The game doesnt look to be fully finished and is being rushed out for retail, crafting is the suck as there are only 2 professions that can make things, one of which is not in the game yet. Havent seen an auction npc/house yet but I hear it's going to be implemeted for release.

My engineer is way underpowered and squishy which I read is going to be addressed in future updates.

They dont have all the flight routes implemented so exploring is difficult and I havent been able to get to a lot of areas.

What I have seen of WAR that is finished seems to be well done and polished. Seems to me that 2/3 of the game is done and 1/3 is not.

I'm going to try it a while and if the game is still as unfinished as now I will cancel my subscription.

Releasing an unfinished game on a marketing departments decisions does not make a good game and they are going to pay for that with sub numbers and game longevity.

Yea, generic.

I was hoping for some examples. Some detail. Instead, its just a generic list with no explanation and no detail.

As I said before, it just sets off a red flag as to the validity of a review. If every review was like yours, it would read like this....

quote:
My review on World of Warcraft:

Pros
1. Easy - Man, it was easy to level
2. Graphics - Really cool especially when I cast spells

Cons
1. PVP - Rogues own me all the time. It sucks.
2. Professions - The crafting sucks

I would like a little substance with the review. Especially considering I have never played the game.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20980856 Wed, 20 Aug 2008 16:41:49 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20980768 gaforces :

said by Nightfall

said by gaforces

Generic? I gave valid reasons and you chose not to read it.

1)crafting
2)class balancing
3)economy/auction house
4)exploring/traveling/flight routs

I dont see those things being finished by sept 18, but I hope I'm suprised. Even if they finish the meager choices for crafting, it's a pitiful attempt so far.

Whatever, it's worth the pre-order to try it and see if you like it :)
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Something to keep in mind as well is people tend to not say as much bad when they arent paying for it. Once people begin to pay out of pocket for an unfinished product they begin to get upset and the real truth comes out. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20980484 Wed, 20 Aug 2008 15:37:10 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20979815 beatsnpieces :

said by Tails

:

I've read through this thread, and I'm kinda confused here. I preordered Warhammer and went to pick up my open beta code from the store. I put that stuff in at the website and I'm downloading the client now. Does this mean that once the client is downloaded that I'll be able to play? How does this work?

While client is available for download the actual open beta will not start until September 7. However if you got the email invite from EAMythic you can take part in the open beta preview and play from August 22-25. I finished downloading the client but it will not accept my login info to patch it; I'm assuming that will change on Friday.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20979815 Wed, 20 Aug 2008 13:42:27 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20979572 Nightfall :

said by gaforces

Seems that there are not a lot of continuity when it comes to the reviews. For instance, you say that 2/3 of the game is complete and 1/3 is incomplete. Others say that the game is pretty much polished and ready to go. I am inclined to believe somewhere in the middle.

When I read some generic statements and no substance, that also sends up a red flag.

I have gotten a lot of good reviews, with good and bad points listed on warhammeralliance.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20979572 Wed, 20 Aug 2008 12:56:11 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20979409 gaforces : RvR is fun. I was blowing up greenskins/destruction players with the hellcannon as they were trying to zerg us outnumbered order players.
You can join the que for scenario RvR from the player UI.

The game doesnt look to be fully finished and is being rushed out for retail, crafting is the suck as there are only 2 professions that can make things, one of which is not in the game yet. Havent seen an auction npc/house yet but I hear it's going to be implemeted for release.

My engineer is way underpowered and squishy which I read is going to be addressed in future updates.

They dont have all the flight routes implemented so exploring is difficult and I havent been able to get to a lot of areas.

What I have seen of WAR that is finished seems to be well done and polished. Seems to me that 2/3 of the game is done and 1/3 is not.

I'm going to try it a while and if the game is still as unfinished as now I will cancel my subscription.

Releasing an unfinished game on a marketing departments decisions does not make a good game and they are going to pay for that with sub numbers and game longevity.
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A majority of people do like the game. The people who do like it have a lot of good things to say about it. They talk about what they did in the game and what they like about it in great detail. Most of them only post a couple things they don't like though, and I wish I would hear some of the shortcomings from some people who love the game.

There are a few who don't like the game, but their reviews on the game are weak. A few people are posting information that they hate the game, but the client they are playing with are behind on revisions. Others only post that the game is garbage without a single positive thing to say about it.

I have read a couple good reviews from people who liked a lot but disliked things in the game and those I put more weight to. The conclusion of each of these reviews was the game was worth buying. Therefore, I am keeping my preorder and hoping I get into the beta soon so I can try it for myself.

Maybe some BBR users would be happy to post their experiences with the game here. However, I would like to have at least some level of detail both ways. I know this game isn't 100% awesome and has no downside. However, I also know it isn't total garbage.

EDIT:
Found a good collection of reviews here: »www.warhammeralliance.com/forums···?t=57703
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said by TigerLord

:

I predict Warhammer will be as big a fail as AoC. All flash, no substance.

I won`t be caught up and pay for it this time, I'll wait for you suckers to try it for me :D

If you ever played Dark Ages of Camelot then you know Warhammer will not fail.

Dark Ages of Camelot was a great PVP game and it was created by the same people who are making Warhammer.

Mythic = PVP goodness]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20975968 Tue, 19 Aug 2008 18:49:43 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20975131 Nightfall :

said by TigerLord

said by Nightfall

said by TigerLord

:

I predict Warhammer will be as big a fail as AoC. All flash, no substance.

I won`t be caught up and pay for it this time, I'll wait for you suckers to try it for me :D

Your reservations are very legit.

This is why I love this place.

People have common sense!

They do? ;)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20975131 Tue, 19 Aug 2008 15:50:23 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20975100 TigerLord :

said by Nightfall

said by TigerLord

:

I predict Warhammer will be as big a fail as AoC. All flash, no substance.

I won`t be caught up and pay for it this time, I'll wait for you suckers to try it for me :D

Your reservations are very legit.

This is why I love this place.

People have common sense!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20975100 Tue, 19 Aug 2008 15:43:24 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20974356 Tails : I've read through this thread, and I'm kinda confused here. I preordered Warhammer and went to pick up my open beta code from the store. I put that stuff in at the website and I'm downloading the client now. Does this mean that once the client is downloaded that I'll be able to play? How does this work?
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A friend and I started a paintball team under my idea. We have six out of the 20 players we are looking for.

But I will definately play a trial if anyone would be willing to un-ass a buddy pass when they come out.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20973635 Tue, 19 Aug 2008 11:12:46 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20973557 Nightfall :

said by KCP

:

If I recall, the game is coming out with only about half of its originally stated content. That was a big turn off for me. I don't think that I am going to pick it up until I am actually able to get the full content. It wouldn't be worth it, IMHO.

By the way, sorry I have been offline for so long. I just got back from Kuwait about three days ago. Yay me.

Thats an incorrect statement.

They removed 4 of the twenty classes available and 2 capital cities. Hardly half of its content thats for sure. It isn't like every other MMORPG has cut out content before launch and added it in later.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20973557 Tue, 19 Aug 2008 10:56:52 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20973383 KCP : If I recall, the game is coming out with only about half of its originally stated content. That was a big turn off for me. I don't think that I am going to pick it up until I am actually able to get the full content. It wouldn't be worth it, IMHO.

By the way, sorry I have been offline for so long. I just got back from Kuwait about three days ago. Yay me.
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said by TigerLord

:

I predict Warhammer will be as big a fail as AoC. All flash, no substance.

I won`t be caught up and pay for it this time, I'll wait for you suckers to try it for me :D

Your reservations are very legit. I made the mistake with AOC. This time I get to play the game in the open beta. The Beta is my trial. If it sucks, you can bet I will be canceling my order.

I will also say that AOC didn't have as many good things said about it as WAR. The countless videos and developers talking about how the game works and what to expect really help sell the game to me. Unlike AOC where I didn't hear much about the game other than the fact it was pretty good. The NDA should be lifted soon and more reviews on this game should be public.

I do like the direction WAR has taken though. I just could not stand the kiddie PVP that is in WoW where nothing changes. This is why I like EvE a lot, for the brutal and unforgiving PVP and the way the universe is. I can only hope WAR delivers.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20973040 Tue, 19 Aug 2008 09:02:22 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20972829 Shatter :

said by TigerLord

:

I predict Warhammer will be as big a fail as AoC. All flash, no substance.

I won`t be caught up and pay for it this time, I'll wait for you suckers to try it for me :D

I agree completely. I started the 9gb+ DL last night and will play tonight for the first time hopefully. However I dont have a good feeling that this will be a game I play for a long time or will even purchase. When the NDA lifts( they said this week I think) it will be interesting to see some reviews. Ill give it a fair shot, but I also got caught by AOC and wont be doing that twice.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20972829 Tue, 19 Aug 2008 07:36:30 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20972484 TigerLord : I predict Warhammer will be as big a fail as AoC. All flash, no substance.

I won`t be caught up and pay for it this time, I'll wait for you suckers to try it for me :D]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20972484 Tue, 19 Aug 2008 02:23:48 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20971384 Zyncotl :

said by Nightfall

:

For years I thought WoW would be the MMORPG I would stick with for a long time.

Define long time. I played WoW for 3.5 years which to me is a long time to play any single MMORPG. It was also the last one I'll play for a long time. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20971384 Mon, 18 Aug 2008 21:18:46 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20971305 sixstring : I purchased the pre-order from Target.

It came with 2 codes, an open beta code and a head-start code. As i understand OB is on 9-7, but what is the live game head-start about? I'm downloading the client right now, would i be able to get into the game right away? or do i have to wait until OB starts?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20971305 Mon, 18 Aug 2008 21:03:06 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20967614 Nightfall :

said by JIGA

said by Tboner

:

whats RVR?

RvR means - Meaningful PVP, not like WoW's meaningLESS PVP.

Don't get me wrong, I enjoy WoW for what it is, it's just WoW's PVP SUCKS.

I logged into WoW for the first time in 3.5 months. Upon logging in, I had this very sick feeling in the pit of my stomach. I just didn't want to PVE raid at the time. PVPing was interesting, but it was just the same battlegrounds that we have had. Same results too. Alliance win AV 75% of the time. Horde win the rest 75% of the time. I really didn't feel like going through the honor grind.

I don't know, maybe I am just bored of WoW or sick of the way WoW is played. For years I thought WoW would be the MMORPG I would stick with for a long time. Now, I can't bear to play it because the PVP does suck.

I am hoping that Warhammer is going to be good.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20967614 Mon, 18 Aug 2008 09:32:55 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20966853 JIGA :

said by Tboner

:

whats RVR?

RvR means - Meaningful PVP, not like WoW's meaningLESS PVP.

Don't get me wrong, I enjoy WoW for what it is, it's just WoW's PVP SUCKS.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20966853 Mon, 18 Aug 2008 01:29:10 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20959056 NESTRAPEZ : realm vs realm]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20959056 Sat, 16 Aug 2008 05:07:40 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20958145 Nightfall : I have never played DAOC, but the videos I have seen of this game look very promising. I also like the concept behind DAOC after reading about it. The reason why WoW lost its luster with me is the lack of PvP concentration. I am eager to try a new MMORPG. As much as I like EvE, this game as got me excited.
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said by softimage

:

i'v been playing closed beta the last few days, its not as good as i thought it would be.

1. the game feels cheap and already dated. i'v played some lineage 2 f2p clones that have very much the same feel to it. all the animations like running, jumping, etc. are really crappy. i really hope they update the this alot before launch.

Running and jumping having the same feel..? Ok..

I have a buddy who has been playing the closed beta. He was an avid DAOC player and he loves the game. I agree with Jiga, the RVR is where its at. And from the looks of this game its going to be promising.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20955680 Fri, 15 Aug 2008 13:28:29 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20954183 JIGA : Did you ever play Dark Ages of Camelot?
If "No", you are really missing the bigger picture here for Warhammer.

Gameplay>Graphics
RVR>All

*EDIT*
Also, you're in violation of the NDA...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20954183 Fri, 15 Aug 2008 06:45:28 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20953912 softimage : i'v been playing closed beta the last few days, its not as good as i thought it would be.

1. the game feels cheap and already dated. i'v played some lineage 2 f2p clones that have very much the same feel to it. all the animations like running, jumping, etc. are really crappy. i really hope they update the this alot before launch.

2. alot of the time when clicking on stuff it doesnt seem to respond so you have to click real slow to make sure its been clicked. annoying.

3. when running from one place to another i can see the low rez tiles try and update to the high rez ones but by the time they do, i have just ran past it, so the gfx are always a step behind and its not my system i dont think since i'm getting very smooth frame rate, its just slow to update the gfx before i get there.

they still have time to fix alot of this stuff but its getting very late in the game to be doing all this, you would think all this would have been addressed by now.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20953912 Fri, 15 Aug 2008 02:09:30 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20950968 JIGA : Haven't watched the ones linked in this thread yet, I'm at work.

I'll check them out when I get home.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20950968 Thu, 14 Aug 2008 15:00:15 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20950505 Nightfall :

said by JIGA

said by Nightfall

said by JIGA

:

I finally got a chance to pre-order Warhammer. Got it from Gamestop online. It was the regular version for $49.99+tax and it included an open beta key as well. Just waiting on the open beta to start now.

Have you gotten your beta key yet? I preordered mine from EA Store just so I know I get a beta key and I haven't gotten mine yet.

This is from the Gamestop site.

quote:
»www.gamestop.com/Catalog/Product···u=646910
ONLINE/IN-STORE PICKUP CUSTOMERS: Bonus codes will be sent via email within 2 business days from time of purchase. Please provide a valid email address. While supplies last.

Thanks for the info Jiga! I gotta be more patient. :)

What did you think of the videos?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20950505 Thu, 14 Aug 2008 13:35:06 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20950485 JIGA :

said by Nightfall

said by JIGA

Have you gotten your beta key yet? I preordered mine from EA Store just so I know I get a beta key and I haven't gotten mine yet.

This is from the Gamestop site.

quote:
»www.gamestop.com/Catalog/Product···u=646910
ONLINE/IN-STORE PICKUP CUSTOMERS: Bonus codes will be sent via email within 2 business days from time of purchase. Please provide a valid email address. While supplies last.

Notice that "While supplies last"? Well, if their supplies are gone they need take the Bonus offer down. If I do not get a beta key I'll just cancel the pre-order. I expect the key to come in by tomorrow.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20950485 Thu, 14 Aug 2008 13:31:25 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20950451 Nightfall :

said by NESTRAPEZ

:

»www.youtube.com/user/ambhpb

check this guy's videos in high quality.

These videos look awesome! I can't wait to try this game out.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20950451 Thu, 14 Aug 2008 13:23:36 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20950448 Nightfall :

said by JIGA

Have you gotten your beta key yet? I preordered mine from EA Store just so I know I get a beta key and I haven't gotten mine yet.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20950448 Thu, 14 Aug 2008 13:22:37 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20948800 JIGA : I finally got a chance to pre-order Warhammer. Got it from Gamestop online. It was the regular version for $49.99+tax and it included an open beta key as well. Just waiting on the open beta to start now.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20948800 Thu, 14 Aug 2008 06:46:57 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20948724 NESTRAPEZ : »www.youtube.com/user/ambhpb

check this guy's videos in high quality.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20948724 Thu, 14 Aug 2008 05:45:35 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20942991 JIGA :

said by markopoleo

said by JIGA

said by Shatter

:

Got my beta invite last night. Their torrent download can suck me(>1 yr download :P) so I got the patcher only and started that this morning to find out that I cant use my login until Aug 15(or the authentication servers were down). Good times

Everyone that pre-ordered and received a beta key will get in the Beta on Aug 15th. That's been known for some time now.

They can DOWNLOAD on the 15th, but the open beta might not begin till Sept 1st is the "guesstimate".

I guess everyone in my guild that pre-ordered is going to be a bit pissed, oh well. I was getting the info from them, I myself haven't pre-ordered yet.

quote:
To register for Open Beta:
After August 15, 2008 visit the Mythic Entertainment Account Management website.
Create a new Warhammer Online game account.
When prompted, enter your Open Beta code.*
Your Open Beta code can be found on the card in your pre-order box or in your pre-order confirmation email. Open Beta files will be available for download on August 15th. PLEASE NOTE: The start date for Open Beta is still to be determined. Check back here for updates!

]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20942991 Wed, 13 Aug 2008 06:56:19 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20942836 markopoleo :

said by JIGA

said by Shatter

Everyone that pre-ordered and received a beta key will get in the Beta on Aug 15th. That's been known for some time now.

They can DOWNLOAD on the 15th, but the open beta might not begin till Sept 1st is the "guesstimate". ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20942836 Wed, 13 Aug 2008 04:42:40 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20942834 markopoleo :

said by SauceMaster

:

I won't be since they removed a good amount of content just to make it for the release of Sept 18th. I've played it and I can't say I'm impressed , I was once excited about this game.

I canceled my pre-order and so did several of my friends and guild members once we heard that news. We are all going back to WoW and waiting for WOTLK.

Sigh, they did NOT remove a good amount of content, they removed 4 out of the TWENTY classes. A couple capital cities. Its not a big deal people. WoW did it before launch for crying out loud removed content. lol

Also, as long as you pre-ordered the game, you get open beta and headstart. The Speical edition one you get like 1 day extra headstart plus a few extra days in beta.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20942834 Wed, 13 Aug 2008 04:40:38 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20938886 Shatter :

said by JIGA

said by Shatter

Everyone that pre-ordered and received a beta key will get in the Beta on Aug 15th. That's been known for some time now.

"3. Once you have entered your code into the Beta Center you will receive future emails alerting you as to when Open Beta begins. These emails will contain instructions on how to access the Open Beta and download the game files." *shrugs* I didnt know and never received an email that said Aug 15. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20938886 Tue, 12 Aug 2008 12:24:45 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20938581 Nightfall : I am probably going to pick this game up as well. Heck, I picked up Age of Conan and it was fun for a few months. After that though, it wasn't anything exciting. I figure if I get a couple months out of it, it will be better than other games I have purchased in the past.

I think I might do what Jiga is doing. Preorder and play the beta. If it blows, then I will move back to WoW if i feel like it.

I took a break from WoW, haven't played in well over 3 months now, and have been enjoying Eve online. However, WoW has been calling me back. The only thing preventing me from going back has been the PVP in the game. They haven't made it any better. The game continues to be a PVE game with PVP built onto it.
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said by Shatter

Everyone that pre-ordered and received a beta key will get in the Beta on Aug 15th. That's been known for some time now.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20938579 Tue, 12 Aug 2008 11:28:06 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20937632 Shatter : Got my beta invite last night. Their torrent download can suck me(>1 yr download :P) so I got the patcher only and started that this morning to find out that I cant use my login until Aug 15(or the authentication servers were down). Good times]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20937632 Tue, 12 Aug 2008 07:48:59 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20936578 cool_coda : I've been in beta for about 6 months now. I've dropped wow to continue to play it, but I have to admit... I miss wow at times.

I'll be very interested to see how badly wow takes it on the chin when this releases, or how it doesn't.

It's much more complex, so it may lose some of the casuals. Which does include myself.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20936578 Mon, 11 Aug 2008 22:47:44 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20936572 Mtav80 :

said by Gundy

:

EDIT: Does anyone know if the collectors editions are actually all sold out?

Yes they are. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20936572 Mon, 11 Aug 2008 22:46:14 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20935425 Gundy : I'm stoked for this game. Hope it lives up to the hype. Hell.. Even if its basically a DAoC 2 I'd play the hell out of it!

EDIT: Does anyone know if the collectors editions are actually all sold out?
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said by Tehuno

:

only 1 major city per zone. supposedly they will put that stuff back in, in a content patch after release.

This isn't accurate. I watched a podcast explaining what they have done with the capitols and it makes alot more sense. Instead of 6 capitols there are now 6 fortresses and 2 capitols. All 3 fortresses need to be captured to open the way to a factions capitol. The reason they did this was because they found that when it came to capitol battles races tended to "stick to their own" meaning dwarf players would only defend the dwarf capitol, dark elf players would only defend the dark elf capitol and so forth. The revision gives all races more motivation to assist in the defense of the fortresses as everyone shares a capitol now. While they stripped the capitols down, the 2 remaining ones have been made waaaaay bigger than what was originally planned and now have far greater rewards for capturing. If I can find the podcast I will link it here later, but all-in-all I was quite impressed with the changes.

EDIT: here we are »mythicmktg.fileburst.com/war/us/···ast.html]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20934966 Mon, 11 Aug 2008 17:25:10 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20933987 JIGA :

said by Shatter

:

I preordered the CE over 6 weeks ago and I registered my key for beta and still havent got in if that makes you feel any better lol

From what I have heard, pre-ordering the game gets everyone that did so into the next beta phase which is Aug 15th.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20933987 Mon, 11 Aug 2008 14:39:52 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20932134 Shatter : I preordered the CE over 6 weeks ago and I registered my key for beta and still havent got in if that makes you feel any better lol]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20932134 Mon, 11 Aug 2008 07:38:00 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20932085 JIGA :

said by Gundy

said by Flesh :

You need to pre-order the Special Edition for the open beta code..But what i have seen it look good.

I thought you get into the beta no matter what edition you order now? It says so for the reg on gamestop.

And there aren't anymore collectors editions.

My 2 friends that pre-ordered got the beta key just from the regular version. You don't have to get the special edition.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20932085 Mon, 11 Aug 2008 07:02:01 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20931556 Gundy :

said by Flesh :

You need to pre-order the Special Edition for the open beta code..But what i have seen it look good.

I thought you get into the beta no matter what edition you order now? It says so for the reg on gamestop.

And there aren't anymore collectors editions.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20931556 Mon, 11 Aug 2008 00:19:20 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20919921 SauceMaster : I won't be since they removed a good amount of content just to make it for the release of Sept 18th. I've played it and I can't say I'm impressed , I was once excited about this game.

I canceled my pre-order and so did several of my friends and guild members once we heard that news. We are all going back to WoW and waiting for WOTLK. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20919921 Fri, 08 Aug 2008 13:40:51 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20919464 Tehuno : my uncle in law has been in the beta for ~ 2 weeks now, and i know he pre ordered the special edition.
havent been over to look at it yet, but it seems like they stripped it down pretty good to get it out the door. its missing several classes, and only 1 major city per zone. supposedly they will put that stuff back in, in a content patch after release. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20919464 Fri, 08 Aug 2008 12:08:05 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20919381 anon : You need to pre-order the Special Edition for the open beta code..But what i have seen it look good.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20919381 Fri, 08 Aug 2008 11:48:00 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20918838 JIGA :

said by Dodge

:

Is it actually going to come out any time? Didn't they do one beta already which ended in a complete fiasco

September 18th is slated the release date. An open beta for users who pre-order is coming out in a week or so I believe.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20918838 Fri, 08 Aug 2008 10:20:11 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20918822 Dodge : Is it actually going to come out any time? Didn't they do one beta already which ended in a complete fiasco]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20918822 Fri, 08 Aug 2008 10:17:19 EDT Re: WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20918816 JIGA : Going to pre-order it to get into the beta, thats my trial.

If I like it, buy it, if not, cancel it.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20918816 Fri, 08 Aug 2008 10:16:25 EDT WARHAMMER http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20918252 anon : So how many of you are picking this game up? ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20918252 Fri, 08 Aug 2008 08:01:42 EDT