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baineschile
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Strike

As long as the strike is running over the fiber optic lines, it should be over very quick.


supergirl

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said by baineschile See Profile :

As long as the strike is running over the fiber optic lines, it should be over very quick.
If the union strikes, I'll be shocked. They only way unions really make a point is if the strike and it hurts the company. However, if it really hurts too much, like GM, you might have just unemployed yourself.
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insomniac84

join:2002-01-03
Schererville, IN
reply to baineschile
You know it's not actually a series of tubes, right?


JustTheFactsMam

@comcast.net

reply to supergirl
said by supergirl See Profile :

However, if it really hurts too much, like GM, you might have just unemployed yourself.
IMO, poor quality killed the once 'Big 3'. You really can't blame the unions for having to overhaul a poorly designed motor/transmission at 50,000 mile intervals.


cypherstream
Looking forward to the future of things.
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join:2004-12-02
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reply to baineschile
Please don't strike! Our Verizon T1's go down at work every time it rains! Who's going to fix them then?


Shadow01
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join:2003-10-24
Wasteland
·AT&T Midwest

said by cypherstream See Profile :

Please don't strike! Our Verizon T1's go down at work every time it rains! Who's going to fix them then?
High quality, low paid contractors "scabs" or managers, which do you prefer?

keyboard5684

join:2001-08-01
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Last time they striked I got FASTER service. A manager actually came out and fixed the T1 after 20 minutes.

Union is outdated. It brings the costs way up, they have too many rights (more than a normal employee does) and there is entirely too much corruption.

The union employees could care less about the company itself. If the employees gave a crap they might actually report problems, fix things on the go (meaning they see something wrong on the pole right next to them they fix it, like covering bare wires), and offer better quality of service to the company. Caring about who they work for rather than the union and money may actually help them in the long run.


jerryjam

@verizon.net
you have no clue what you are talking about


mod_wastrel

join:2008-03-28
reply to keyboard5684
Maybe they'd actually show up for installation appointments, too.

Hellrazor

join:2002-02-02
Abyss

reply to Shadow01
said by Shadow01 See Profile :

said by cypherstream See Profile :

Please don't strike! Our Verizon T1's go down at work every time it rains! Who's going to fix them then?
High quality, low paid contractors "scabs" or managers, which do you prefer?
Pretty obvious the high paid union workers can't get it right. Maybe he has a better chance with the scabs.


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reply to keyboard5684
Well, considering when I had Bell and it took 8 techs and 1 engineer to fix static and the guy that fixed it was a new tech and found a simple screw loose in the NID, STRIKE, STRIKE, STRIKE! Do it know. Let's so how bad VZ POTS sucks without workers? It can't get much worse. Two weeks to fix a POTS line? What is it rocket science now? And, to be blunt, Comcast is kicking VZ's butt anyway so all those VZ people will eventually be working for a non-union company anyway. Well, except the FIOS people us stockholders hope. The Strike would be COMCASTIC!
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ITALIAN926

join:2003-08-16
Stratford, CT

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Well, considering when I had Bell and it took 8 techs and 1 engineer to fix static and the guy that fixed it was a new tech and found a simple screw loose in the NID, STRIKE, STRIKE, STRIKE! Do it know. Let's so how bad VZ POTS sucks without workers? It can't get much worse. Two weeks to fix a POTS line? What is it rocket science now? And, to be blunt, Comcast is kicking VZ's butt anyway so all those VZ people will eventually be working for a non-union company anyway. Well, except the FIOS people us stockholders hope. The Strike would be COMCASTIC
Rocket Science ?? Look at your grasp of the English language ! You are exxagerating your situation.. and if youre so damn smart, the NID is accessable and you shouldve fixed it.. huh??????

hoyleysox

join:2003-11-07
Long Beach, CA
reply to mod_wastrel
They showed up. It took them 5 seconds to park, knock and drive off. By the time you got to the door (if you heard the knock), all you could smell was the exhaust of the company van speeding out.

hottboiinnc
ME

join:2003-10-15
Cleveland, OH
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reply to ITALIAN926
But according to this site that's what the UNIONS GET PAID FOR since their so experienced and nobody else could NEVER provide the same level of service to the customers that they do.



Acc708

join:2008-06-28

reply to Hellrazor
said by Hellrazor See Profile :

said by Shadow01 See Profile :

said by cypherstream See Profile :

Please don't strike! Our Verizon T1's go down at work every time it rains! Who's going to fix them then?
High quality, low paid contractors "scabs" or managers, which do you prefer?
Pretty obvious the high paid union workers can't get it right. Maybe he has a better chance with the scabs.
A clear display of your absolute ignorance of the outside plant. The reason the t-1 goes down all the time is because management refuses to replace the cable that is past it's expected lifetime. They have forced technicians to band aid everything for at least the past ten years or more. They put everything into fios and wonder why dial tone customers are leaving in areas where there is no fios and going to cable companies and companies like Vonage. They charge more and give less.


Acc708

join:2008-06-28

reply to mod_wastrel
said by mod_wastrel See Profile :

Maybe they'd actually show up for installation appointments, too.
Another uninformed decision. Who do you think allows for the over scheduling of orders? Clue, it is not the associates. It's the management.


Lazy and Greedy

@comcast.net

reply to supergirl
Most of you have some valid points. However, the mgmt. is not completely responsible for the problems with getting repair jobs completed, or the time it takes a tech to do an install. I was lucky enough to watch a tech install FiOS a few weeks ago. I wanted to fire him myself as he took pride in telling me that "they" want these jobs done in 4 hours, but they all stretch it to 8. Ensuring job security for their futures. A very shortsighted view indeed. Take pride in your work, keep customers happy, and KEEP CUSTOMERS! This clown literally walked to his van and carried a single set top box into the house, walked back out to get the remote, then repeated 4 more times. Truly ridiculous. I have friends that work on both sides, and it's just as bad within the call centers. I am torn as I believe in Unions, but I do see firsthand how some lazy people get protection even when its clearly abusive to the customer and the company. What ever happened to fair days work for a fair days pay? And, despite what some techs or customer service reps may say, these guys are very well taken care of. Take it from someone who has been on both sides. I say strike if the company who saw 3.4 billion in profits in a single quarter can't see how taking care of ALL the people who help build the company that allows them to have million dollar apartments in NYC, private jets, and ridiculous bonuses every year. FYI, the profit margin on Caller ID service alone is over 34,000%, yes, thats thousands...............

alchav

join:2002-05-17
Palm Desert, CA
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 reply to keyboard5684
said by keyboard5684 See Profile :

Last time they striked I got FASTER service. A manager actually came out and fixed the T1 after 20 minutes.

Union is outdated. It brings the costs way up, they have too many rights (more than a normal employee does) and there is entirely too much corruption.

The union employees could care less about the company....
Keyboard, you hit the nail on the head, it's too bad that Unions have out lived their usefulness. Now people use Unions as a crutch, and many of the people left have no talent, are always complaining, and could not care less for The Customer. The Managers come in and take over the jobs and things get done. So don't worry about the Strike, things might get better.


supergirl

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reply to ITALIAN926
said by ITALIAN926 See Profile :

quote:
Well, considering when I had Bell and it took 8 techs and 1 engineer to fix static and the guy that fixed it was a new tech and found a simple screw loose in the NID, STRIKE, STRIKE, STRIKE! Do it know. Let's so how bad VZ POTS sucks without workers? It can't get much worse. Two weeks to fix a POTS line? What is it rocket science now? And, to be blunt, Comcast is kicking VZ's butt anyway so all those VZ people will eventually be working for a non-union company anyway. Well, except the FIOS people us stockholders hope. The Strike would be COMCASTIC
Rocket Science ?? Look at your grasp of the English language ! You are exxagerating your situation.. and if youre so damn smart, the NID is accessable and you shouldve fixed it.. huh??????
Ummm, there were two NIDs. One in the apartment all the techs couldn't get (alarm system). The other was outside. I don't have access to a box that says, "BellSouth only" (that had wiring for 8 apartments) and that was were the screw was loose. I did cancel that ridiculous maintenance plan after they fixed it. They blamed the alarm system. The last tech, a newbie, found it in 15 minutes. IDIOTS! This only went on for THREE DAMN MONTHS!
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keyboard5684

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reply to jerryjam
That is the most thoughtful response I have received.

Why do I have no clue. I said they showed up faster/repaired it faster.

I have had probably 20 T1 repairs (not the same T1) or more in my lifetime and that was the fastest.

So what I said means I have no clue what I am talking about, why? People that respond like that should be deleted.

You said nothing but an insult, that is it. No facts, no content at all, just a badly composed insult.
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