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reply to justin
Re: [iPhone] My 3G problem list

said by justin See Profile :

Don't wifi routers broadcast n and b/g at the same time?

The airport says "802.11n (802.11b/g compatible)"
and the other options are
"802.11n"
"802.11n (802.11a compatible)"
"802.11n only (5ghz)"

So what would it be doing to talk to a 802.11b device like the iPhone?

And any idea how to force the airport extreme to be 802.11b only?
There is a B only option. But it shouldn't matter. The iPhone is an 802.11g capable device and should work fine with the settings you chose (2.4GHz b/g/n, 20MHz channels). I'm assuming you've tried other channels instead of letting it autoscan?

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reply to justin
the airport software under wireless. The airport does not simulcast n and b/g.

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reply to Nezmo
Nezmo - Don't worry about it, it's still way better than the alternatives and it truly is an amazing gadget! I really doubt you'll regret it.


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reply to justin
I think 5 and 2 are related. There's something painful slow going on with the SMS section. Mine actually got worse with 2.0.1. I can't even attribute it to having a lot of conversations or text cached; I'm a pretty low text user and cleared out my phone a couple months ago.

I noticed the same with the screen brightness issue. You're right, it just doesn't work as well as it used to with iPhone 2G.

quote:
Poor 3g coverage (this is a fault of my carrier). One bar only for 3g, then it falls back to gprs and there are full bars.
Carrier or not, something needs to be done to improve 3G service. Too many of us see what you describe. We're fully 3G covered here and it seems like I rarely get to use 3G service, because the phone's always falling back to Edge to get a decent signal.

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11. Sometimes it would be nice to stop the auto-rotation to landscape mode. eg when I look at the screen when *I* am horizontal?
If you're horizontal you should be paying attention to your woman, not your iPhone.


pleaseworkiphone

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said by Nezmo See Profile :

Making me nervous. I just ordered one .
Me too. Although this is the 2nd time I'm giving it a chance. First 2G iphone I had shown terrible WIFI reception issues. Even in the same room as two different wireless routers, the iphone would show less than full reception regardless of channel selections. iphone couldn't pick-up WIFI signal outside of the house. My pda could get a signal outside in the backyard! Night and day difference.

This will be my second attempt with the iphone. Reading this thread, I'm concerned as you are. I ordered the iphone, then justin See Profile creates this thread!

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Re: [iPhone] My 3G problem list - Possible Battery Help?

Lenmar Power Port, see link below

»www.lenmar.com/Web/ProductSummar···enmarsku

I purchased this for my daughters iTouch and seems to work quit well. Probably thinner than the iPhone and about the side of a playing card. Probably the same battery the iPhone and iTouch us in a different case?

What's nice about this kit is you can charge your iPhone/iTouch in the car or at home with the purchase of this one kit.

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Re: [iPhone] My 3G problem list

if you press the little reload thing at the bottom left of the page that usually tells it to relocate you via GPS..


ultracooldave

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reply to justin
ALL of these issues with the new I-Phone had been already been addressed by me in these forums. My suggestion-
buy the original I-Phone (still completely cool) used on ebay with V2.0 installed, unlocked/jailbroken.
You will save at least $4000 (over 2 years) over going with the ridiculous AT&T contract and at the end of 2 years you will still have a great valuable phone. Forget the 3G, you can get a used original for about $300 and have a choice of providers.

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Yeah, my phone seems to slow down over time. A fresh reboot seems to speed it back up.

The browser does seem to crash a lot. I'll be reading something and all the sudden the browser shuts down. It's pretty annoying.

As a side note, I wish the quicklink icons at the top of the DSLReports' page were a bit larger so I could easily select one without extra zooming.


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quote:
Poor 3g coverage (this is a fault of my carrier). One bar only for 3g, then it falls back to gprs and there are full bars.
I have this same issue. I just stopped turning 3g on. It's RARE for me to go somewhere and get more than 1-2 bars on 3g. I have almost a full EDGE signal everywhere I go.
Is this specific to the iPhone, or does AT&T's 3g coverage just suck that bad?


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said by MarkyD See Profile :

quote:
Poor 3g coverage (this is a fault of my carrier). One bar only for 3g, then it falls back to gprs and there are full bars.
I have this same issue. I just stopped turning 3g on. It's RARE for me to go somewhere and get more than 1-2 bars on 3g. I have almost a full EDGE signal everywhere I go.
Is this specific to the iPhone, or does AT&T's 3g coverage just suck that bad?
No idea about iPhone specifically, but 3G where I live is full strength and very reliable. Has been for a long time.
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ultracooldave

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I mentioned this on YOUR forum, yet you still went out and got the new I-Phone (2 of them if I remember), so now it does not work on 3G, again, as I pointed out on YOUR forum, AT&T has terrible 3G coverage operating on only 1 of the 4 bands, so you should take it back while you can and get the original unlocked and save a ton of money too.

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I don't see how you can save money supercooldave..

The plan from ATT for the iPhone was far cheaper than anything from Verizon was.. In my case I got TWO iPhones for $139.00 per month for everything.. ONE 'the Dare' from Verizon was $150 with all the additional plans you needed to get the same functionality as the iPhone has...


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My Samsung Blackjack really seemed to be able to pull a better 3G signal, but it definitely suffered from EDGE fallback too.

One thing that I was able to do with the Blackajack was lock it into 3G-only mode. Overall it seemed to work a lot better that way.
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I have a 3G from Rogers for about 2 weeks now. I had a 2G from (*cough*) AT&T before that was obviously cracked to run on Rogers in Canada.

The 3G with 2.0 seemed to have some issues with "stickyness" during application start etc., but 2.0.1 has, for me at least, fixed all of those.

I read reports that people have issues finding wireless networks etc, but I never had any. The phone finds the same wireless sources as the MacBook Pro, which is already more that the Vista Laptop of my friend finds...

When connected to WiFi, running AppStore's SpeedTest ( free ), I get 730 Kb down and 265 Kb, which is exactly what the MacBook Pro get's from the same wireless router.

@ Justin:
Is yours hacked, pwnaged or otherwise modded?

The batterylife is about the same as the 2G, as long as I remember to turn off the GPS and 3G when I don't need them.

Come on now, people.. everybody wants 3G but does not want to accept that those chips are HOGS when it comes to battery life. Turn the shit off when you don't need it.


ultracooldave

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Not if you are getting things like unlimited text/data, do you really need these? In any case you will still have a locked phone at the end of your 2 years or with an unlocked one you can change plans if you find you don't need ALL the extra features at any time.
With the "GO" phone its $25 for 3 months, 10 cents a minute, free to other AT&T phones plus $1 a day if you make a call and pay as you go (much higher) for data/text and use the WIFI free. Since you are not using the limited 3G coverage you are still getting excellent regular coverage.
Everyone should work out before signing contracts what the best deal is and the restrictions.


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said by ultracooldave :

Not if you are getting things like unlimited text/data, do you really need these? In any case you will still have a locked phone at the end of your 2 years or with an unlocked one you can change plans if you find you don't need ALL the extra features at any time.
With the "GO" phone its $25 for 3 months, 10 cents a minute, free to other AT&T phones plus $1 a day if you make a call and pay as you go (much higher) for data/text and use the WIFI free. Since you are not using the limited 3G coverage you are still getting excellent regular coverage.
Everyone should work out before signing contracts what the best deal is and the restrictions.
We're going off topic in a thread by the site owner, lol... but I'll bite for a second.

What if you don't care what the best deal is? Not everyone is hell-bent on getting the cheapest option by doing without features etc. You seem to be assuming everyone thinks the same way as yourself.
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ultracooldave

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again
"Everyone should work out before signing contracts what the best deal is and the restrictions"
The topic is- 3G problems, if you don't get 3G in many places what is the use for the new I-Phone? You are going to find even in a place like NYC there are many areas you will not even get service! What is the use of any phone thats unreliable even in NYC? I want to make it clear I am not blaming APPLE its AT&T's terrible 3G, do you really want to sign a contract worth thousands of dollars over 2 years for this? At least you can turn off the 3G, so whats wrong with the original I-Phone at a great price/no contract? It will then do just about everything the new one will and you will even be able to make calls everywhere and change plans immediately without much penalty.


Nezmo
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said by ultracooldave :

again
"Everyone should work out before signing contracts what the best deal is and the restrictions"
The topic is- 3G problems, if you don't get 3G in many places what is the use for the new I-Phone? You are going to find even in a place like NYC there are many areas you will not even get service! What is the use of any phone thats unreliable even in NYC? I want to make it clear I am not blaming APPLE its AT&T's terrible 3G, do you really want to sign a contract worth thousands of dollars over 2 years for this? At least you can turn off the 3G, so whats wrong with the original I-Phone at a great price/no contract? It will then do just about everything the new one will and you will even be able to make calls everywhere and change plans immediately without much penalty.
Well, at least for myself, 3G is never a problem in my vicinity and I'm already an AT&T customer and the data plan is the same as my current smartphone. I don't see the problem. Now, if the iPhone has problems holding on to 3G signals for me, I will have to assume it's the phone and it will go back.
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I just got my iPhone on Friday; I updated immediately to 2.0.1. Overall I am pleased with it (I am typing this message on it... And the keyboard is sluggish), but I am having many of the same issues that you are having. Sometimes it seems like wifi is just as fast as my 3g connection. I had the 8525 and the Tilt before I got this phone, both were 3g, and I could go a day and a half with moderate usage. I have to charge this one half way through the day. I am going to turn off gps and wifi tomorrow to see if that helps... They were huge battery killers on my Tilt.

Edit: My keyboard is sluggish, but nowhere near as bad as that video...
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