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Ignite
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join:2004-03-18
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reply to openbox9

Re: Thats Just Depressing.

said by openbox9:

I don't believe they're tier 1.
Believe it or not they certainly are


SLD
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join:2002-04-17
San Francisco, CA

Technically, they are tier 2. Sales calls it tier 1, but talk to support and they know they are tier 2.



scooby
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join:2001-05-01
Schaumburg, IL
kudos:1

reply to Ignite

said by Ignite:

said by openbox9:

I don't believe they're tier 1.
Believe it or not they certainly are
Cogent buys transit which means they are not tier 1.

"A Tier 1 Network is an IP network (typically but not necessarily an Internet Service Provider) which connects to the entire Internet solely via Settlement Free Interconnection, also known as settlement free peering"


captain456

@gci.com

reply to Ignite

said by Ignite:

said by openbox9:

I don't believe they're tier 1.
Believe it or not they certainly are
You are certainly wrong. By definition they are tier 2. There is no debate. look up the definition of tier 1 and tier 2 then read through Cogents public documents you can find on the internet. It's quite obvious


sporkme
drop the crantini and move it, sister
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join:2000-07-01
Morristown, NJ
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reply to scooby

said by scooby:

said by Ignite:

said by openbox9:

I don't believe they're tier 1.
Believe it or not they certainly are
Cogent buys transit which means they are not tier 1.
They don't buy transit anymore:

»www.renesys.com/blog/2008/06/cog···tml#more

In my book, that's Tier-1, marketing BS aside. Yes, they have paid-peering, but that's not transit.


scooby
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join:2001-05-01
Schaumburg, IL
kudos:1

said by sporkme:

They don't buy transit anymore:

»www.renesys.com/blog/2008/06/cog···tml#more

In my book, that's Tier-1, marketing BS aside. Yes, they have paid-peering, but that's not transit.
I stand corrected. As of June 26th, 2008 they appear to be a tier 1 network by the book definition. Cogent is definitely not a bad provider, I would just never want to be single homed to them. Cogent is a perfect fit for a second or third provider. Bang for the buck is quite high.


sporkme
drop the crantini and move it, sister
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join:2000-07-01
Morristown, NJ
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said by scooby:

I stand corrected. As of June 26th, 2008 they appear to be a tier 1 network by the book definition. Cogent is definitely not a bad provider, I would just never want to be single homed to them. Cogent is a perfect fit for a second or third provider. Bang for the buck is quite high.
I just stumbled upon that Renesys blog today. I like it quite a bit.

Their other article about Cogent not sucking is really good:

»www.renesys.com/blog/2007/08/cog···on.shtml

At work we recently were dabbling in metro ethernet stuff. I have never, ever had a harder time trying to give people money. ConEd/RCN business, I'm looking right at you. How can you not know if you have f*cking equipment in a building or not????

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