Doctor Four
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join:2000-09-05
Dallas, TX
 ·AT&T U-Verse
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Re: 896kbps?
AT&T has them beat with their highest U-Verse tier, at
least on the upload side: it gets 10Mbps down, 1.5Mbps up.
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Rob
In Deo speramus, God Bless the USA
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join:2001-08-25
Kendall, FL
 ·Comcast
| said by Doctor Four  :AT&T has them beat with their highest U-Verse tier, at least on the upload side: it gets 10Mbps down, 1.5Mbps up. "AT&T has them beat".. a phrase hardly ever heard!  |
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tad2020
join:2007-07-17
Orange, CA | Yeah but only on the upload and not by much, Quest has them beat with DOUBLE the download. |
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en102
Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA | Hell, AT&T's basic Uverse package 1.5/1Mbps has it beat on the upload
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tad2020
join:2007-07-17
Orange, CA
 ·AT&T DSL Service
| Your basic package does. When I checked yesterday, the base package they were offering my locale was 768 and it didn't hit 1mbps till after the $40 mark. Which is odd cause TWC now has at least 1mbps on all tiers, even the basic package, and no requirement that you must order TV service as well.
I was going to switch to uverse when they finish rolling it out here, but after hearing than they absolutely require ordering their rather crappy TV service and that their HSI is more expensive for less speed. With TWC I have their 'basic' package which is 8mpbs/1mbps for $40 w/o TV or voip. Uverse wants $45 for 6mbps/1mbps plus another $44 or more for TV. I have no idea what AT&T is thinking, it seems like they don't want any competitive advantage here. |
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Anonymous_
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join:2004-06-21
127.0.0.1
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there is an 15ms to 20ms lantcy penalty with VDSL |
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djrobx
join:2000-05-31
Valencia, CA | reply to tad2020
What area are you in?
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deviationer
join:2005-01-01
Portland, OR | reply to Anonymous_
very true. Any gamer is better off getting something that is NOT DSL.
In fact that 15-20ms latency penalty is with all DSL flavors and providers. |
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tad2020
join:2007-07-17
Orange, CA
·AT&T DSL Service
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Southern California. AT&T is still installing the uverse equipment and I've only seen one vrad of the 20 or so I see on my way to work that's looks finished, so I question when they say it's already available in the area. I doubt if they'll actually service my block at all, they never did for dsl. |
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djrobx
join:2000-05-31
Valencia, CA
 ·PHONE POWER
·AT&T U-Verse
·AT&T CallVantage
·Time Warner VOIP
·RoadRunner Cable
2 edits | In SoCal, the lowest U-Verse internet package, Express, is 1500 down, 1000 up for $25 per month. Pro 3000/1000 = $30, Elite 6000/1000 = $35, Max 10000/1500 = $55.
Not sure where you got 768kbps from. The only VRAD that will matter in terms of you getting service is one that's less than 3000 wire feet from you. Their service databases do get screwed up, but if it shows available you can always try.
I think at this time if you want "internet only" you have to order Max and it comes with an install charge. People have found it better to try out the TV and then cancel that portion, and they've been able to keep the interenet portion. |
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djrobx
join:2000-05-31
Valencia, CA | reply to deviationer
My ADSL had gateway pings of 7ms.
Cable varied from 6-10ms.
My U-verse VDSL is 21-24ms. |
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tad2020
join:2007-07-17
Orange, CA
·AT&T DSL Service
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The two nearest VRADs around me I've found fallowing the path of the telephone lines haven't been serviced by Edison for power yet. The first one is over 3000ft just walking down the street, the telephone lines snake around and take the long way there. The second one is 4000ft away if you fly to it. Their might be closer VRADs than those, but since my lines come of that pole in my back yard directly, I believe I'm limited to the nearest one to them. It looks like they shot for just covering the condo development on the previous block like they did for DSL. Theirs only 35 homes on my block and it fingers out from nearby city, surrounded by a park, a storm drain overflow/park and a large hill, and butts up on the border of the unincorporated area between the next city.
It doesn't looking good.
The uverse installation in the area seem to be at a stand still. I haven't seen any AT&T works at any of the VRADs since mid July. I drive by a dozen everyday all I different stages including pouring the pad. It looks like their installing another generator at their CO in Tustin, but I don't see why that would cause the delays. |
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Guspaz
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join:2001-11-05
Montreal, QC
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Sorry, no. The penalty is based on the distance between your DSLAM and your ISP's closest PoP, and your upstream and downstream speeds. Non-interleaved DSL connections can easily provide 6-7ms on the first hop or less. The DSL or Cable factor should not be the primary thing on a gamers' mind when choosing an ISP. More important, for example, would be the ISP's connectivity. This is probably moot if you only play on servers in the city you live in, but if you play against people from other cities, the better connected your ISP is, the less latency you're likely to suffer.
Obviously, geographical distances are insurmountable, but the more upstream providers an ISP has, the more likely you are to get a more direct route. |
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ptrowski
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Putnam, CT
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said by deviationer :very true. Any gamer is better off getting something that is NOT DSL. In fact that 15-20ms latency penalty is with all DSL flavors and providers. My gaming with DSL is much more stable than my friend's that both have Comcast. Their speeds are higher, but I host so there is not any lag.
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