Topic 'Re: Congrats' in forum '' - dslreports.com http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Congrats-20932425 en Fri, 10 Feb 2012 11:09:27 EDT Fri, 10 Feb 2012 11:09:27 EDT Re: Congrats http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Congrats-20943970
If T knew how to build out a brand new next Generation network they would have skipped the DSL and the copper and went to FTTH. Not the other way around.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Congrats-20943970 Wed, 13 Aug 2008 14:32:39 EDT Re: Congrats http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Congrats-20941853
I'll just highlight that sentence and cut out there. Yea, T has no experience in nationwide telco deployment.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Congrats-20941853 Tue, 12 Aug 2008 22:09:11 EDT Re: Congrats http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Congrats-20941151
Move on over T and start being a cable provider again. Ed should have never sold off Americast to WOW. Instead they should have upgraded the network and built it out.

Would have been farther ahead but showed they wanted to stay in the DSL business.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Congrats-20941151 Tue, 12 Aug 2008 21:01:09 EDT Re: Congrats http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Congrats-20941139
Give it up. we both know that the cable companies will pound T's DSL out of the water before they can even start to offer it to entire cities.

Cable companies are already upgrading their networks and T is slowly doing it. The cable company here where i live has already upgraded speeds once this year and is preparing to do it again soon with DOCSIS 3. and where is T? Still trying to install their crappy VARDs on the corners hoping they can get people to sign up.

Their one thing sounds funny though 700 homes per VARD. Why do i see them on almost every corner in Toledo? Especially in my area? If that was true I wouldnt need to see as many.

Sounds again like someone at T doesnt know what in the hell their talking about.

But as far as affordable! HA! Why is their product priced so much higher than anyone else's? Because even one of their spokespersons said they do NOT compete on price. They compete on product which is a laugh there! they really do not have one!

They limit the amount of streams of TV you can watch and their service is capped at 10/1 for pretty much ever because the only way to compete with anyone is to RE-build out again. Which means more $$$$ from the stockholders and more $$$ from the customers in higher bills. Nobody is going to keep paying for T's screw ups.

Ed is gone they need to scrap the DSL shit and move over to FTTH if they wanna stay in the game.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Congrats-20941139 Tue, 12 Aug 2008 20:46:49 EDT Re: Congrats http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Congrats-20940095
Sure, T could listen to you, and make sure that they make sure no one gets upgraded except a few places. And at a premium rate. Or they could hook up more houses with an affordable quality product.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Congrats-20940095 Tue, 12 Aug 2008 16:20:43 EDT Re: Congrats http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Congrats-20939306
It must not be much if T can afford to build that out and it works fine to this day. hmmmm untested yep sure it is.

but go figure a T employee defending them on a stupid move. and expanding DSL! WTF! Why would you worry about expanding DSL when they should be bringing in something that can compete with DOCSIS 3.0. T is gonna be up a shi& creek when DOCSIS 3 hits their markets. Especially when they have to go out and REBUILD the network AGAIN!

Shareholders will not be happy.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Congrats-20939306 Tue, 12 Aug 2008 13:48:14 EDT Re: Congrats http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Congrats-20938788
This isn't a simple industry. And yes, IPTV availability is growing in each city. Same as DSL availability. And it ads a lot less to the bottom line then spending lots of cash up front on an untested system.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Congrats-20938788 Tue, 12 Aug 2008 12:07:03 EDT Re: Congrats http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Congrats-20936996 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Congrats-20936996 Tue, 12 Aug 2008 05:25:53 EDT Re: Congrats http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Congrats-20934298 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Congrats-20934298 Mon, 11 Aug 2008 15:30:35 EDT Re: Congrats http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Congrats-20933626 said by hottboiinnc:

I don't see how Uverse will be a lower cost to them. In not even 3 years they'll have to come back and replace all of those VARDs with FTTH and leave the big unsightly boxes their to rot and rust.

how is that smart? wouldn't it be smarter to just deploy FTTH to the home the first time around instead of spending all the money for install, equipment and everything else twice?

I mean com'on. It's stupid not to do it right the first time around. T just doesn't have any plans to do FTTH. especially since what 97% of their "new" build out is UVerse?
Exactly what I was thinking when I saw their "deployment" plan awhile ago. A majority of the people were like "what are you an idiot, this makes no sense." Good thing they have leadership who can lead everyone into a giant brick wall time and time again.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Congrats-20933626 Mon, 11 Aug 2008 13:25:29 EDT Re: Congrats http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Congrats-20933528 --
"People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of thought which they seldom use."]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Congrats-20933528 Mon, 11 Aug 2008 13:04:10 EDT Re: Congrats http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Congrats-20932736
how is that smart? wouldn't it be smarter to just deploy FTTH to the home the first time around instead of spending all the money for install, equipment and everything else twice?

I mean com'on. It's stupid not to do it right the first time around. T just doesn't have any plans to do FTTH. especially since what 97% of their "new" build out is UVerse?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Congrats-20932736 Mon, 11 Aug 2008 12:51:30 EDT Re: Congrats http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Congrats-20933312
This is a major infrastructure and technology shift no matter what you say. It will lead to much better things down the line. This isn't the end game.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Congrats-20933312 Mon, 11 Aug 2008 12:26:08 EDT Re: Congrats http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Congrats-20933298 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Congrats-20933298 Mon, 11 Aug 2008 12:22:55 EDT Re: Congrats http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Congrats-20932817
But the corporate mouthpiece says its good...... :D
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Congrats-20932817 Mon, 11 Aug 2008 11:01:39 EDT Re: Congrats http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Congrats-20932702 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Congrats-20932702 Mon, 11 Aug 2008 10:33:57 EDT Re: Congrats http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Congrats-20932629 said by openbox9:

Thanks for explaining the joke. Let me explain reality to you. VZ is still having a challenging time with their FTTH roll-out. Uptake hasn't been as glamorous as they had hoped and investors are still anxious for their ROI. Even though you believe T is using "2003 thinking", it's not. FTTN is a logical progression for T in their upgrade path. They continue to extend fiber deeper into their markets and when the need for FTTH arises, it'll be relatively easy, quick, and low cost for T to make the leap.
You must work for AT&t to make such a rosy outlook like that. Trust me I know people in all aspects of ATT due to working there and it will be hardly easy, quick, and low cost to go back and make the leap to full fiber.

Uverse has been poor since day one of launch and continues to provide less than stellar results. Per typical AT&T leadership they have once again had the inability to implement projects on time and with an ounce of quality.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Congrats-20932629 Mon, 11 Aug 2008 10:15:33 EDT Re: Congrats http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Congrats-20932605 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Congrats-20932605 Mon, 11 Aug 2008 10:11:43 EDT Re: Congrats http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Congrats-20932597 said by Rick:

said by RiseAbove:

Congrats AT&T your technology roll out and delivery is on par with what people were doing in 2003.
I was thinking it was more along the lines of what people were doing in 1876.

Watson..come here...I do believe I might have invented Uverse!

»www.tecsoc.org/pubs/history/2002/jan25.htm
HAHAHA now that is funny.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Congrats-20932597 Mon, 11 Aug 2008 10:09:24 EDT Re: Congrats http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Congrats-20932549 said by RiseAbove:

Congrats AT&T your technology roll out and delivery is on par with what people were doing in 2003.
I was thinking it was more along the lines of what people were doing in 1876.

Watson..come here...I do believe I might have invented Uverse!

»www.tecsoc.org/pubs/history/2002/jan25.htm
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There was a large scale IPTV deployment in the US in 2003?
I guess I need to explain the joke to you. It doesn't matter if there was or wasn't an IPTV roll out in 2003 because what i am going at is the method at which they are delivering that service. We have services like FIOS and others developing fiber to the door, ATT is believing that if they leave copper in the ground it should be enough to get the job done. That my friend is so 2003 thinking and will come back to bite them in the end.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Congrats-20932540 Mon, 11 Aug 2008 09:58:53 EDT Re: Congrats http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Congrats-20932478 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Congrats-20932478 Mon, 11 Aug 2008 09:39:41 EDT Re: Congrats http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Congrats-20932445 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Congrats-20932445 Mon, 11 Aug 2008 09:31:08 EDT Congrats http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Congrats-20932425 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Congrats-20932425 Mon, 11 Aug 2008 09:25:14 EDT