Dogfather
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meaning that Apple would need to physically replace the chips on phones exhibiting the behavior.
Cah-shing. Apple can't continue to avoid this problem and fixing it will sting. | |
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Matt
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| Re: Ouch said by adisor19  :said by Dogfather : quote:
meaning that Apple would need to physically replace the chips on phones exhibiting the behavior.
Cah-shing. Apple can't continue to avoid this problem and fixing it will sting. BS. This is just immature firmware. Apple/Infineon needs to get their act together. Adi What makes you think that's the case? The article states specifically it's not firmware fixable and will require a chip replacement. | |
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Dogfather
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Laguna Hills, CA | Re: Ouch Ditto... | |
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Dogfather
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Laguna Hills, CA | Re: Ouch An infineon chip or this infineon chip is used in other handsets? | |
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| Re: Ouch My Samsung ZX-20 has a Qualcomm (has qcomm sticker on it), and Motorola V3xx has a different 3G chip.
Motorola V3xx works well, Samsung ZX-20 drops calls (replaced phone 3x under warranty for the issue).
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1 edit | Re: Ouch said by en102 :Motorola V3xx works well, I'll second that. I've only dropped a few calls and that was when the 3G service was new in my area. It's been over a year since I had a call drop.
I think Motorola makes awesome phones. I hope that whoever buys the phone division from them keeps the quality intact.
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Corona
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| said by Matt :What makes you think that's the case? The article states specifically it's not firmware fixable and will require a chip replacement. The article implies "According to Windsor, the problem likely isn't firmware upgradeable" (emphasis mine). I would like to know if there is any fact behind Windsor's speculation. | |
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Ingersoll, ON | They don't even KNOW what chipset Apple is using. This is pure speculation and from a *financial* analyst with not technical knowledge. This is a non story until some actual facts show up. | |
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| If you read wired.com today, part of the reason some may being saying it's an issue with Apple's chipset is that, supposedly, some AT&T employees have laid the blame on Apple's chipset when they've gotten complaints about the performance of the 3G iPhone. Like others quoted in the wired article, I suspect it's a combination of factors. No matter how you look at it, blame is deserved all around, especially if steps aren't taken to acknowledge the issues and fix them at some reasonable point in time. (In the US, I'd suggest Apple and AT&T do a better job of BETA testing. With NDAs upheld in courts here, there's no excuse for not adequately beta testing hardware and software.) | |
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| Re: Ouch said by voipdabbler :If you read wired.com today, part of the reason some may being saying it's an issue with Apple's chipset is that, supposedly, some AT&T employees have laid the blame on Apple's chipset when they've gotten complaints about the performance of the 3G iPhone. Like others quoted in the wired article, I suspect it's a combination of factors. So what are Canadian iPhone users saying? There's 3G and Edge up here, just a stones-throw away, but with a different network provider (Rogers/Fido). If the phones sold in Canada aren't having the same issues then more than likely it's an ATT problem.
Most of the iPhone users I know are pleased with the service here and the quality of reception and voice/audio fidelity. NB. I don't use an iPhone. | |
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| Re: Ouch Supposedly, there are reports of problems coming in from various networks around the world, especially after the recent firmware upgrade--GPS reportedly deteriorated in most markets around the world after that upgrade. The wired article references a CNET blog set up to compile a list of bugs with the 3G iPhone. That site has a pole that, if people are being accurate, shows that almost 25 percent of the bugs being reported are from networks outside North America. They don't break down the North American problems between Canada and the US, so I can't tell you what percentage of Canadian users are having problems. However, some Canadian users definitely had problems with GPS after the firmware upgrade. | |
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KrK
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| Re: Ouch said by Dogfather : quote:
meaning that Apple would need to physically replace the chips on phones exhibiting the behavior.
Cah-shing. Apple can't continue to avoid this problem and fixing it will sting. What problem? Nothing to see here. Move along . . . .
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Matt
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Jamestown, NC | I guess none of you realize that because it's a financial analyst, he likely has LOTS of technical knowledge, especially about what chip Apple is using. That's how they make decisions. | |
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| »news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-10016···1_3-0-20
Ny Teknik, a Swedish tech newspaper, has published the account of a scientist at the University of Gälve who investigated the iPhone 3G and discovered that the phone is not as sensitive to 3G signals as other phones. ... is claiming that the iPhone 3G's nominal sensitivity is below that of published standards for 3G phones, meaning the phone drops the connection with a 3G tower more quickly than other 3G phones as it moves away from the tower and averages slower data speeds when connected.
The researcher told Ny Teknik that such an issue would have been easily discovered in the certification process for the iPhone 3G in the various countries in which it is now available, implying that a manufacturing problem is to blame. Foxconn, also known as Hon Hai, is believed to be the manufacturer of the iPhone 3G, and reportedly increased production of the unit at the beginning of this month.
On Wednesday, Vodafone Australia joined the ranks of carriers blaming Apple for the reception issues with the iPhone 3G. T-Mobile Netherlands is telling its customers that either a hardware or software issue is to blame
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