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Matt
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Re: Ouch

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meaning that Apple would need to physically replace the chips on phones exhibiting the behavior.
Cah-shing. Apple can't continue to avoid this problem and fixing it will sting.
BS. This is just immature firmware. Apple/Infineon needs to get their act together.

Adi
What makes you think that's the case? The article states specifically it's not firmware fixable and will require a chip replacement.
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Ditto...
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said by Matt See Profile :

What makes you think that's the case? The article states specifically it's not firmware fixable and will require a chip replacement.
The article is wrong and it's PURE speculation. The Infineon chip is used in other phones as well and it's made to fall within the GSM/UMTS/HSDPA specifications. The problem is : fine tuning it to a particular situation/network. All this happens in firmware where certain parameters are being tweaked, perfected. Apple has a LOT of bread on their hands seeing that this is an ultra popular handset that is being sold in MANY different countries for many different networks.

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An infineon chip or this infineon chip is used in other handsets?
permalink · 2008-08-13 11:38:34 · Reply to this

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My Samsung ZX-20 has a Qualcomm (has qcomm sticker on it), and Motorola V3xx has a different 3G chip.
Motorola V3xx works well, Samsung ZX-20 drops calls (replaced phone 3x under warranty for the issue).
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Motorola V3xx works well,
I'll second that. I've only dropped a few calls and that was when the 3G service was new in my area. It's been over a year since I had a call drop.

I think Motorola makes awesome phones. I hope that whoever buys the phone division from them keeps the quality intact.
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said by adisor19 See Profile :

The article is wrong and it's PURE speculation.
I think its too early to say. Many sources around the 'net are suggesting its a physical hardware issue that cant be fixed with a firmware upgrade. I suspect now that this issue has been receiving so much international attention, Apple will release some info in the next week or so. I would suspect that their first response will be a firmware upgrade, and then they will wait it out a month or two to see what impact that has. Clearly, if that doesnt help we will see recalls (of the first generation 3G units) around the holiday season which wont be a good thing!
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said by Matt See Profile :

The article states specifically it's not firmware fixable and will require a chip replacement.
No, the article says it likely isn't firmware fixable.

I would say it's likely that the author of this article has no idea about the gritty details of what can and can't be done in firmware. Because I just used the word "likely", my ass is covered if I'm wrong.
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said by Matt See Profile :

What makes you think that's the case? The article states specifically it's not firmware fixable and will require a chip replacement.
The article implies "According to Windsor, the problem likely isn't firmware upgradeable" (emphasis mine). I would like to know if there is any fact behind Windsor's speculation.
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