RoguePremium
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West Milford, NJ | if you... if you go into settings/network 3G and switch the 3G network to ON and there is no 3G service, you get 'NO SERVICE' until you power the phone off and on again.. Something is definitely wrong there.. |
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 SkellBasherYes Sorto, I'll take my Prozac
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Niagara Falls, NY
1 edit | said by Rogue:if you go into settings/network 3G and switch the 3G network to ON and there is no 3G service, you get 'NO SERVICE' until you power the phone off and on again.. Something is definitely wrong there.. That isn't universally correct.
I cross an EDGE / HSDPA boundary every day to and from work. I flip the 3G switch off most days when I get home because I'm on my WiFi, and turn it back before I leave. (Side note... wish that was automatic...)
I have never seen a NO SERVICE message when turning 3G on in an EDGE area.
With respect to the analyst, take anything they say with a grain of salt.
If he's an analyst at a brokerage firm covering AAPL, he could make a phone call or two and find out for sure what chip was actually in the phone. It's irresponsible for him to make any technical assumptions about solutions when he has no background in such matters.
I'll give Apple the time to see what they can do with this before passing judgment. |
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| said by SkellBasher:said by Rogue:if you go into settings/network 3G and switch the 3G network to ON and there is no 3G service, you get 'NO SERVICE' until you power the phone off and on again.. Something is definitely wrong there.. That isn't universally correct. I cross an EDGE / HSDPA boundary every day to and from work. I flip the 3G switch off most days when I get home because I'm on my WiFi, and turn it back before I leave. (Side note... wish that was automatic...) I have never seen a NO SERVICE message when turning 3G on in an EDGE area. Same here, i have no problems going from HSDPA to EDGE as i do every day to and from work. The only problem i have is in downtown Kansas City, i can go from 3G to EDGE w/o warning standing in the same spot, then go right back to 3G. |
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| I've definitely seen the problem with the 3G->Edge handoffs. But my other 3G phones (HTC 8525, Samsung Blackjack) do the exact same thing. So, this doesn't seem iPhone specific to me.
I used to lock my Blackjack in 3G mode. Even though the signal showed less bars, it worked fine. Too bad I can't do that on iPhone. |
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said by Rogue:if you go into settings/network 3G and switch the 3G network to ON and there is no 3G service, you get 'NO SERVICE' until you power the phone off and on again.. Something is definitely wrong there.. I just tried that, and No Service did pop up. But after waiting a minute or two the service came back on.
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 SeandhiSeeing From a New LevelPremium
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Humble, TX | reply to djrobx
I posted the same thing in another, similar front-page story about the same thing, but both my 8525 and my Tilt would drop calls on the 3G-Edge hand-off. My iPhone does not. I don't know if there has been a hardware revision (I seriously doubt it) between the release and when I got my phone (last week), but I am not having any connectivity issues.
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 en102Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA | reply to djrobx
I've done similar with the Samsung ZX-20... however I've locked it to GSM.
Automatic: 3G -> GSM works 1/2 the time. The rest end in dropped calls, and unable to make a call until the phone switches to GSM.
Forced GSM: No dropped calls... garbled, sure
Forced 3G: Some dropped calls..calls will break up a lot, and the signal will spike (full bars).
Basic suspicion is that a normal call attempts to handoff from 3G to GSM, but doesn't handle it properly.
I've seen it on 'Test Mode' on the Samsung ZX-20, where the failed handoff will show no GSM control channels.. its as if the phone's GSM side is asleep during a handoff.
With forced 3G, the phone will keep on the network until the call actually fails.
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en102Canadian, eh?
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Valencia, CA | reply to No to ESPN
3G actually uses a form of CDMA (WCDMA) for its air interface.
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RoguePremium
join:2008-01-23
West Milford, NJ | reply to ptrowski
First off - it's supposed to hop between networks seamlessly. And it does not. ptrowski is lucky that after a MINUTE OR TWO he gets service again, my iPhone does not and requires a reboot. But, ptrowski proves my point, 'No Service' is available when switching from 3G to Edge for, in his words, 1 to 2 minutes.. That would imply that something is wrong. No? |
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| I discovered the same problem when switching to 3G and getting"NO Service," if 3G isn't available. However, if I turn 3G off after that I get EDGE again. This just started happening after the firmware update.
I'll give Apple time to figure this stuff out, but if there is a hardware problem, they'd better fix it or they'll destroy the confidence that they already didn't destroy with the MobileMe/iPhone2 launch debacle. |
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RoguePremium
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West Milford, NJ | Cozmot - Ya kknow, you cold be on to something.. I too think maybe it was an update issue.. That and I can no longer send an SMS with a picture!!! That's one way to keep people from bitching about the ATT link!!! |
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 chotty
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Birmingham, AL | reply to powerspec88
Same here too. I turn off 3G at home for WIFI. Never have seen a "No Service" indicator. i have seen 3G go to Edge while WIFI is off (downtown B'ham, Al). Very good 3G coverage here, for the most part.
*I have also seen degradation in GPS since the 2.0.1 firmware though... especially indoors. |
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ptrowskiGot Helix?Premium
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said by Rogue:First off - it's supposed to hop between networks seamlessly. And it does not. ptrowski is lucky that after a MINUTE OR TWO he gets service again, my iPhone does not and requires a reboot. But, ptrowski proves my point, 'No Service' is available when switching from 3G to Edge for, in his words, 1 to 2 minutes.. That would imply that something is wrong. No? I should tell you when I did that test, I was not in a 3G coverage area, only EDGE. Here at work I have full bars 3G. Tested it again, and it went to one bar, then switched after 5-6 second.
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