hottboiinnc
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Cleveland, OH | reply to supergirl
Re: Strike
True! And unions don't make the cost go down!
Maybe unions shouldn't be so damn greedy! |
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ITALIAN926
join:2003-08-16
Stratford, CT | Why dont you shut up already, it really gets old... stop being jealous that you have crap benefits at your crap job. |
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supergirl
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said by hottboiinnc  :True! And unions don't make the cost go down! Maybe unions shouldn't be so damn greedy! Eventually, from a psychological standpoint to enforce that health care IS a cost of employing people, companies are going to start saying, "Add your health care premiums and you are really getting paid $60,000 not $54,000". Employees know it but don't know the real cost.
Unions ask for the same health care for ALL unionized employees. I think someone with lots of training doing this and a clerk doing a lot less maybe shouldn't get the same health care? That's just a brutal truth since our government doesn't care to tackle the problem.
But, like VZ's unions did, they screwed future employees for current and retirees. That doesn't make for a happy union eventually.
Small companies lay it on the line with employees--the business can't afford it. This is the cost. How do we do it? We can't unless you pay $300.00 a month in premiums and you make $25,000 in a job that requires really nothing but a high school education.
I know small businesses that are highly specialized and are now just hiring temps for secretarial work. I record my notes and have them transcribed. I dropped temps myself 3 years ago. And, I get 100% quality on the work now that I didn't before. And, it is less money. That is becoming economic reality for most small businesses.
The better computer software gets the less employees will be needed. 10 years ago I wouldn't have dreamed of just talking into a mic and see my notes transcribed right into Word. Soon, I'll be dropping the transcription service.
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said by ITALIAN926 :Why dont you shut up already, it really gets old... stop being jealous that you have crap benefits at your crap job. My benefits are better than yours and my retirement plan is fully funded. I doubt yours is. Is it? I work for myself not for a company.
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NOCMan
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Flower Mound, TX | reply to supergirl
Better get them Republicons to get you some more tax breaks. Gotta get you hiring folks with all that saved money. |
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ITALIAN926
join:2003-08-16
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Yea, I have a 401k, PENSION that I can cash out right now for $500,000 if I decided to leave... fully paid medical, dental and vision, 5 weeks vacation, 4 personal days.. and Im more than doubling my salary in OT ! You do better than this?? Wow, lucky you.
All of this wouldnt be possible if we werent unionized . Why?? because greedy people like you run my company and would love to pay contractors $10 an hour with no benefits for the same work. This country would go right down the shitter. |
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ihope
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| said by ITALIAN926 :Yea, I have a 401k, PENSION that I can cash out right now for $500,000 if I decided to leave... fully paid medical, dental and vision, 5 weeks vacation, 4 personal days.. and Im more than doubling my salary in OT ! You do better than this?? Wow, lucky you. All of this wouldnt be possible if we werent unionized . Why?? because greedy people like you run my company and would love to pay contractors $10 an hour with no benefits for the same work. This country would go right down the shitter. what you fail to realize is that the union party line of no givebacks and more more more are bankrupting companies. most of you would rather see the company go under than give a little back and stay in business. |
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ITALIAN926
join:2003-08-16
Stratford, CT
1 edit | Giving a little back turns into a LOT down the line. Let the big corporations charge more for their services to properly treat their workers. Im not rich, and none of my co-workers are either. NEVER GIVE IN TO GIVEBACKS.
[sarcasm]Since youre so concerned about the status of Quest's profits, get your checkbook and make a donation. Set an example as to how the workers should GIVE BACK. Make a give back yourself.[/sarcasm] |
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Corona
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1 edit | said by ITALIAN926 :...NEVER GIVE IN TO GIVEBACKS. does that mean the greed of the many outweighs the greed of the few or the one?
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said by ITALIAN926 :Yea, I have a 401k, PENSION that I can cash out right now for $500,000 if I decided to leave... fully paid medical, dental and vision, 5 weeks vacation, 4 personal days.. and Im more than doubling my salary in OT ! You do better than this?? Wow, lucky you. All of this wouldnt be possible if we werent unionized . Why?? because greedy people like you run my company and would love to pay contractors $10 an hour with no benefits for the same work. This country would go right down the shitter. My retirement plan is in the millions. I work for myself. I write off my medical care--all of it. Unions have NOTHING to do with my pay that is in the top 1%. Lucky? I think 8 years of college is my "luck". I could retire this year and live extremely well at my next home in the Hamptons.
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CWAproud
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I'm a union member for Qwest, and as I remember what put this company in the toilet was Joe Nacho pulling an Enron scandal. He and his upper management cohorts single handily ruined this company and now the occupational employees have to pay the cost with a reduction in workforce and bending over backwards in cuts and balances during negotiations. Remember right after Nacho pulled his crap how the CWA members agreed to take no pay raises for 2 years and extend their current contract to help keep the company solvent? That was on the heel of a scandal that cost many workers over half of their retirement funds. We have guys to this day that can't afford to retire because of that. We kept this company from having to file bankruptcy with our extension and the thanks we get is the threat of having our healthcare premiums increased over 400%. We do pay some contribution to healthcare as it is. The rest of our unionized industry does not. So, the way I see it, we have bent over backwards to help this company survive and now that they have a little solvency and are gaining positive cashflow they have forgotten all we have done for them. I say strike, if we have to, to protect what we have all worked so hard for. |
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Nik1108
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join:2002-01-16
Nampa, ID | reply to supergirl
I thought we got over this my thing is bigger than your thing along time ago... I guess not *shrug* |
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CWAproud
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I would imagine Joe Nacchio thought the exact same thing of himself as he was ripping off America. |
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hoff56501
@wcta.net | reply to CWAproud
well said, I'm a co tech I'm MN and my feelings are with yours |
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hottboiinnc
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join:2003-10-15
Cleveland, OH | reply to CWAproud
don't be to sure about Qwest employees are the only ones in the Telco world that pays for insurance. it looks like ATT may be with you next. |
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COT
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who cares!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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JOHN19969
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DEAR MRS SUPERGIRL,
WE ARE ALL FASCINATED BY YOUR INFINITE WISDOM,WEALTH, AND RICHES. PLEASE GO ON AND TELL US MORE OF HOW YOU ACCOMPLISHED YOUR GREATNESS. THAT IS, IF YOU DETERMINE US TO BE WORTHY? YOU SEEM TO HAVE A LOT OF TIME ON YOUR HANDS FOR SUCH AN OVER ACHIEVER. |
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