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itguy05

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Works fine here

Speedy downloads, decent battery life, and an all around great experience....

ANALysts are seldom right....


gattaca
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said by itguy05:

Speedy downloads, decent battery life, and an all around great experience....

ANALysts are seldom right....
Same here. So far, all claims of an actual hardware defect come from analysts who offer little more than speculation. No one has actually done any testing or hardware tear-down to confirm their baseless remarks.

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The report said the most likely cause of the 3G problems is defective adjustments between the antenna and an amplifier that captures very weak signals from the antenna. This could lead to poor 3G connectivity and slower data speeds. (Yahoo! News)
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If these "defective adjustments" are not firmware-fixable, one would assume it is a physical hardware problem. If that's the case, should a tear-down prove whether this analyst's theory is correct? Furthermore, if this is NOT a physical problem, but rather a result of some software adjustment, would that not then be firmware fixable?

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said by itguy05:

Speedy downloads, decent battery life, and an all around great experience....

ANALysts are seldom right....
I have zero problems with my Iphone as well. However, I cannot deny that a lot of people are having problems. So who is right here? Its my hope that apple does the right thing and really investigates the issue.


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said by Nightfall:

I have zero problems with my iPhone as well. However, I cannot deny that a lot of people are having problems. So who is right here? It's my hope that Apple does the right thing and really investigates the issue.
I ran into a few issues with it, but not too bad to be kicking and screaming about. At and around my work AT&T 3G coverage is great, I have yet to see it switch back to EDGE or drop service. At my apartment, however, it's a different story; it keeps switching between 3G, EDGE and no data coverage at all. I am inclined to think that this is more of AT&T problem than Apple as one of my friends has a Motorola Q9 (also with AT&T), and last time he was over my place, his phone did the exact same thing; one moment he was on 3G and I was on EDGE and two seconds later it was the other way around. Unless Q9 uses the exact same chip as iPhone, which I don't think is the case, but someone can correct me if I'm wrong.

Of course, if Apple does in fact decide to go ahead and replace the units, I won't have any second thoughts about swapping mine out.
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We have two iPhone 3Gs and have experienced lots of problems. 3G reception stinks, it switches constantly back and forth between EDGE and 3G, even in a good 3G area like North NJ or NYC when you are standing still! It leads to dropped and garbled calls and slow data speeds. Sometimes freezing iPhone.

I have had the iPhone crash so many times it is NOT funny. I went to the Apple store and got one of them replaced, I have tried syncing with different Macs (yes I am a long time Mac user) with no luck.

Apps quit constantly, once on does, none of the others will launch anymore. Restarts and hard resets do not help. Deleting and reinstalling the apps no not help. Only total restore with iTunes will get you working again, for maybe a day. Sometimes when an app quits it KILLS the iPhone and you are stuck with a white Apple logo and NO phone at all! I have restored one of our iPhone 3Gs over 30 times in less than a month!

iTunes is also a mess, it never knows when app updates are needed. It sometimes wants to download 7 or 8 copies of the same app. When it downloads an update it re-creates the app file instead of overwriting it or deleting the old file. A visit to the Mobile Application folder and you will probably see many many copies of the same app filling your hard drive with incremented numbers!

Backups take forever and are usually useless when restoring the iPhone as iTunes will tell you they are corrupted. Remember I have tried this with several Macs, including a fresh install of OS X and iTunes.

Even running the iPhone without ANY third party apps had Mail, Settings, Contacts and Safari quitting! The iPhone also lags and sometimes freezes. Longest I have had an iPhone work without crashing and needing a restore is 3 days.

I have yet another appointment with the Apple Store this afternoon and will ask for yet another replacement. I also called AT&T and I have until September 1st to return them for FULL refunds, which I will probably do if this does not get resolved with this visit.

MobileMe has also not been that great. It is NOT true push as originally advertised, it is unstable and Mail does not work sometimes. Biggest complaint I have is no support at all for subscribed calendars on the iPhone!

I think I have been more than patient giving the amount of problems I have had. But Apple staying silent is not helping. I posted this same description of my problems on the Apple iPhone Support forum and it was promptly taken down within ten minutes! I guess Apple does not like problems discussed.

So let the Apple fanboys jump all over me. But I will point out I am a long time Mac user and even make part of my livelihood supporting Macs. I am not an Apple basher, but I do not drink the "kool-aide" either. This has been my experience with the iPhone.

Sorry for the long post, I thought others would want to know the details.



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said by Pirate515:

said by Nightfall:

I have zero problems with my iPhone as well. However, I cannot deny that a lot of people are having problems. So who is right here? It's my hope that Apple does the right thing and really investigates the issue.
I ran into a few issues with it, but not too bad to be kicking and screaming about. At and around my work AT&T 3G coverage is great, I have yet to see it switch back to EDGE or drop service. At my apartment, however, it's a different story; it keeps switching between 3G, EDGE and no data coverage at all. I am inclined to think that this is more of AT&T problem than Apple as one of my friends has a Motorola Q9 (also with AT&T), and last time he was over my place, his phone did the exact same thing; one moment he was on 3G and I was on EDGE and two seconds later it was the other way around. Unless Q9 uses the exact same chip as iPhone, which I don't think is the case, but someone can correct me if I'm wrong.

Of course, if Apple does in fact decide to go ahead and replace the units, I won't have any second thoughts about swapping mine out.
I am far from a fanboy of Apple or the Iphone thats for sure. Its a new device for me and only a month old. This is my second ever apple product. That being said, it seems that if you have an iphone 3g you can choose one of the following....

1. No issues - everything is great
2. Minor issues - Keyboard lag and app store problems
3. Major issues - Loss of connectivity, loss of service

Seems that some analysts see a lot of issues while others see none. I don't think anyone can say its the phone OR the service without a shadow of a doubt. The only thing that is certain is that these problems exist and they need to be corrected.

With the iphone being a huge seller, these problems will be fixed soon. Right now I bet Apple and AT&T are working through these issues and will come up with a solution.

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