 RobIn Deo speramus, God Bless the USAPremium
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Livonia, MI | Only problem I have with this phone is the laggy keyboard, but its random..Hope that gets fixed. |
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said by Rob:If this had been a Microsoft product, the comments posted thus far would have been oh so much different. I would argue that if it was a Microsoft product, the article probably would not have existed or the headline would be much less speculation-based. Apple products have problems (as do all products), but somehow front-page articles such as this, which merely repeat what was already said in an article a few days earlier, seem to get accepted simply because they're about Apple.
I'll be the first person to criticize Apple products for their flaws, but you have to question the motivation for popping repetitive articles about software/hardware glitches to the front page just because it's Apple.
The ONLY reason this article is here is to stir the pot and get people worked up - not the be informative or helpful.
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said by detfan:Only problem I have with this phone is the laggy keyboard, but its random..Hope that gets fixed. That is VERY annoying. Hopefully Apple gets a firmware update out the door quickly to fix this issue. It makes text messaging very difficult. I've also experienced some lag in the contacts application.
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It's not rocket science. Apple and AT&T should easily be able to figure out the problem. I'm thinking they already know (even though they may say there is none or they're "working on it").
But if there is a problem, they'll want to point it to firmware/software. That's the cheapest fix. Apple shareholders would be up in arms if Apple came out and said it was a hardware problem which they're going to replace one-million+ iPhones. Something like that is only supposed to happen to Windows PCs, not an Apple product. |
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Re: Microsoft.. said by gattaca:said by detfan:Only problem I have with this phone is the laggy keyboard, but its random..Hope that gets fixed. That is VERY annoying. Hopefully Apple gets a firmware update out the door quickly to fix this issue. It makes text messaging very difficult. I've also experienced some lag in the contacts application. Yea well this latest update was supposed to have solved that. It has not. |
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| said by detfan:said by gattaca:said by detfan:Only problem I have with this phone is the laggy keyboard, but its random..Hope that gets fixed. That is VERY annoying. Hopefully Apple gets a firmware update out the door quickly to fix this issue. It makes text messaging very difficult. I've also experienced some lag in the contacts application. Yea well this latest update was supposed to have solved that. It has not. Yep. I also installed 2.0.1 and noticed little improvement at all - I'm not sure what that update accomplished.
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Re: It's not rocket science. It wouldn't cost that much to replace them on any scale, because you can just refurb the used ones & sell them too or use them for repair parts, have the chipmaker pay damage fees for the issue.
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 Titus PulloI came, I saw, I slept
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Re: Microsoft.. said by gattaca:said by Rob:If this had been a Microsoft product, the comments posted thus far would have been oh so much different. I would argue that if it was a Microsoft product, the article probably would not have existed or the headline would be much less speculation-based. The ONLY reason this article is here is to stir the pot and get people worked up - not the be informative or helpful. And after reading the first dozen or so posts, guess whose hand I see grasping at the spoon most often?
EDIT: grammar - whose for who's (I'm borked this AM)
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Are you kidding me? Security flaws with Microsoft products are always front page news, and have you all but forgotten the heat Microsoft received from Vista and the problems it reportedly had? I can't believe you actually believe what you just wrote. |
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said by Titus Pullo:said by gattaca:said by Rob:If this had been a Microsoft product, the comments posted thus far would have been oh so much different. I would argue that if it was a Microsoft product, the article probably would not have existed or the headline would be much less speculation-based. The ONLY reason this article is here is to stir the pot and get people worked up - not the be informative or helpful. And after reading the first dozen or so posts, guess who's hand I see grasping at the spoon most often? -- I don't think any of my posts have been inflammatory. I've tried to add to the conversation with each of my posts. I understand people will disagree with me, but that's fine. It's an open discussion.
I just think the way the headline is worded is a deliberate attempt to get people worked up so that the discussion degrades to inflammatory posts that don't contribute to discussion.
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said by JSY:Are you kidding me? Security flaws with Microsoft products are always front page news, and have you all but forgotten the heat Microsoft received from Vista and the problems it reportedly had? I can't believe you actually believe what you just wrote. I think the wording of this headline is deliberately inflammatory, especially for an article based on pure speculation.
I was responding to the post that people are more apologetic to Apple than they are to Microsoft when problems arise. I think the fact that this "news" story, which was already covered a couple days ago and is STILL based on speculation, demonstrates that Apple does NOT get special treatment.
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 rec9140Provoice just DO it
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Mulberry, FL | reply to Rob
said by Rob:
If this had been a Microsoft product, the comments posted thus far would have been oh so much different.
Not mine. ms is just as bad if not worse than apple.
My personal and my business computers, and all IT systems run Linux.
I am slowing dragging kicking and screaming all other business systems to Linux. My attitude and distaste is well known in my office(s). I saved $4,000 by just going to OpenOffice alone on a recent PC upgrade. ms can take a leap off a tall building into a bucket.
All those systems I am junking are getting wiped and KMint installed and either put into use for other duties or given to employees.
The i(diot)phone is just that for all the apple cult members. They blew it the first time when they went 2G on GSM and rushed a 3G version. Stand up and take the blame Jobs!
My needs for a cell phone are far less than most. It makes and receives calls, gets SMS messages to act as an alpha pager. Thats it. Since I have aircards I no longer need tethering ability.
I can count on one hand the number of portable cell phones I've had since 1984, with fingers left!
crapple and msloth will get no quarter from me.
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Karl generally tries to avoid tossing up Microsoft red meat unless it is absolutely 100% broadband-related. If it is a slow weekend however, KV isn't above throwing Microsoft burgers on the grill. |
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Titus PulloI came, I saw, I slept
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said by gattaca:I don't think any of my posts have been inflammatory. I've tried to add to the conversation with each of my posts. I understand people will disagree with me, but that's fine. It's an open discussion. I just think the way the headline is worded is a deliberate attempt to get people worked up so that the discussion degrades to inflammatory posts that don't contribute to discussion. Keep your eyes on the road!  Being as objective as I can ...
Me thinks you fail to recognize that this news item adds more/new sources to the previous story (the other day) on the phone posted here. Toss in the fact that ATM stories, iPhone most definitely included, hit the front page with regularity, and it's obvious iPhone stories bring readers and posters. Last I looked, readers and posters are an integral part of the site. Look at how many replies you've logged since this topic was posted!
No one is accusing anyone of being inflammatory, and nothing you write will preclude such posts from occurring no matter the topic - Flaming happens with any topic.
The Title is fine given that three sources are now cited along with growing Internet forum traffic (Apple's included) concerning problems with the new phone. Add all this to the fact that Apple is one of the more secretive companies in business - and with a market cap larger than Google - and you have a headline story waiting to happen.
Asking when or if Apple admits to a problem is a fair question. It took weeks of abysmal service for a good 10% of Me (.Mac) users before Apple admitted a problem; this stuff is their history. Often times Apple doesn't admit to problems and settles before class action down the road. Impression is 90% of their marketing. So when a worldwide gadget of massive hype has a potential problem ... that's newsworthy.
Sure some people would love to watch Apple get kicked in the teeth for various reasaon ... but that's nothing new, is it? Sit back and enjoy the show!
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Titus PulloI came, I saw, I slept
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detfanPremium
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Interesting. |
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