 RobIn Deo speramus, God Bless the USAPremium
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| said by Rob:said by Titus Pullo:Yep. I'm unanimous in this (me am?) -- Shouldn't your tag be "I came, I read, I wrote" I 'sleep write'
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said by Rob:If this had been a Microsoft product, the comments posted thus far would have been oh so much different. Probably not. If there is a problem, it is due to Infineon, not Apple. I'd say the same thing if Microsoft made a phone.
When a problem is tracked to a specific component, you blame that vendor.
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Valencia, CA | reply to Rob
Right... Microsoft smart phones would be 'reboot often' and the issue should go away.
Now a Linux smartphone on the other hand...
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I would argue that if it was a Microsoft product, the article probably would not have existed or the headline would be much less speculation-based
I know that these articles wouldn't have existed. The HTC 8525 and Samsung Blackjack have done the same crap for years. Does that make news? No.
I don't really mind though. Putting pressure on Apple to improve things is a good thing.
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said by NetAdmin1:said by Rob:If this had been a Microsoft product, the comments posted thus far would have been oh so much different. Probably not. If there is a problem, it is due to Infineon, not Apple. I'd say the same thing if Microsoft made a phone. When a problem is tracked to a specific component, you blame that vendor. That's buck passing! True, the fault may belong with a vendor of one component in a product made of many components, but the device is designed, contracted for build, and sold under Apple's name. There may be an attempt to spin and reframe the issue so that focus shifts to a specific vendor, but people don't buy their iPhones from Infineon.
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| said by Titus Pullo:That's buck passing! True, the fault may belong with a vendor of one component in a product made of many components, but the device is designed, contracted for build, and sold under Apple's name. There may be an attempt to spin and reframe the issue so that focus shifts to a specific vendor, but people don't buy their iPhones from Infineon. No, it is putting the blame where it belongs. Infineon produces the chips and Infineon should have had QA procedures in place to prevent those chips from making into the distribution channel. Apple used those chips believing that Infineon had sent them good hardware. And since it doesn't seem to be affecting every iPhone, it sounds like it is a problem with inconsistent QA on Infineon's end, whereby some chips are fine and others aren't.
Apple can't test EVERY iPhone under the conditions that cause the problem to appear.
Flat out, this is purely Infineon's fault.
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Business Week says there MAY be a software fix »news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-10017···-1_3-0-5 |
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Re: Microsoft.. said by NetAdmin1:said by Titus Pullo:That's buck passing! True, the fault may belong with a vendor of one component in a product made of many components, but the device is designed, contracted for build, and sold under Apple's name. There may be an attempt to spin and reframe the issue so that focus shifts to a specific vendor, but people don't buy their iPhones from Infineon. No, it is putting the blame where it belongs. Infineon produces the chips and Infineon should have had QA procedures in place to prevent those chips from making into the distribution channel. Apple used those chips believing that Infineon had sent them good hardware. And since it doesn't seem to be affecting every iPhone, it sounds like it is a problem with inconsistent QA on Infineon's end, whereby some chips are fine and others aren't. Apple can't test EVERY iPhone under the conditions that cause the problem to appear. Flat out, this is purely Infineon's fault. Fine. Then perhaps you can help us in finding a number at Infineon where those affected may find recompense for faulty Apple Inc. iPhones.
Getting my drift yet? Fault, blame, and responsibility are not debatable nor interchangeable for the consumer. Trust me when I say that Apple is well aware of this fact.
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A MSFT security flaw is like a good hot dog.
Something nice and familiar to throw on the grill but you can only have so many before they become commonplace and boring.
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 Count ZeroMD2BePremium
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And that would of course be because the originally cited article would have been less biased and more truthful probably. |
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said by Titus Pullo:Fault, blame, and responsibility are not debatable nor interchangeable for the consumer. That's because the average consumer has much of a clue as my neighbor's dog.
Trust me when I say that Apple is well aware of this fact. No doubt. Things are not going to be pretty between Infineon and Apple. Ultimately Infineon is going to be paying for this.
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said by gattaca:I'll be the first person to criticize Apple products for their flaws, but you have to question the motivation for popping repetitive articles about software/hardware glitches to the front page just because it's Apple. The ONLY reason this article is here is to stir the pot and get people worked up - not the be informative or helpful. Your right. Once a news story is reported on, it should never be mentioned again. We probably won't be seeing anything on Vista having bugs, NebuAd having privacy concerns, or a city having problems with metro WIFI. All those topics have already been covered and there won't ever be anything new to talk about them.
Apparently you are also a subscriber of Ny Teknik, "Sweden's foremost engineering weekly" and you already saw their report. No? Oh then you probably saw the AP article about the Ny Teknik report. But wait, that came out TODAY. Sounds like news to me, even if 100% of it wasn't new today.
The Nomura Securities research note is also dated yesterday. So maybe it's day old news. I bet you as well as most other people here didn't see that yet either.
With 2000+ posts, your obviously a frequent visitor here. Not everyone that visits DSLR is here every day, nor sees the every news articles when they do visit. There's nothing wrong with repeating an article with mostly the same content, and more so nothing wrong with posting one that has additional references. |
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