Stop ads by using ad blockers in http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r20949940 en Mon, 30 Nov 2009 01:32:23 EDT Mon, 30 Nov 2009 01:32:23 EDT Re: Stop ads by using ad blockers http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20955048 semotus : Since the subject came up....
I was surprised to learn that data collected from set top boxes about customer viewing habits are being matched up to what you buy at the store when using these membership cards.

»www.npr.org/templates/story/stor···92442904

Its been shown over and over and over that these cards save the consumer absolutely nothing. Yet people continue to use them anyway, go figure.

I couldn't find the article right off hand but, there was an article some time ago about how insurance companies were one of the best customers of shopper data collected with these cards. Buying cigs? Beer? Fatty foods? You may be a financial risk to their bottom line. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20955048 Fri, 15 Aug 2008 11:23:26 EDT Re: Stop ads by using ad blockers http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20953606 rmdir : NoScript does.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20953606 Fri, 15 Aug 2008 00:24:48 EDT Re: Stop ads by using ad blockers http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20952940 pog :
said by BF69 See Profile :

So I should spend money on bandwidth and hosting and other thigns just so you can surf for free? See the whole point is that if you are going to COST me money I don't want yo on my site in the first place. ...
Just because you invest time or money in something doesn't automatically make it worth anything to anyone else.

Besides... hosting is so cheap these days, I have to wonder exactly what you're serving that you are worried about any of this. I mean, I pay roughly $6/month for up to 100GB of bandwidth, 10GB of space... and this is not a very liberal host by some standards!
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said by en102 See Profile :

I get info from VONS/Raplhs/Sams Club/CostCo, etc.
Beyond the 'conspiracy theory' part, the data may not all be used at directing junk to you.

I have seen the typical credit card/refinance, etc marketing directed at me, including listing the cost I paid for my house.

Typically, club card data mining is used within to find out demographics, who buys what, and more general trend analysis. Bean counters pay good for this kind of info.
club card mining is how you get pepsi coupons from that printer when you always buy coke. what i learned though from working in retail food is atleast on that front you are just a number.
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Beyond the 'conspiracy theory' part, the data may not all be used at directing junk to you.

I have seen the typical credit card/refinance, etc marketing directed at me, including listing the cost I paid for my house.

Typically, club card data mining is used within to find out demographics, who buys what, and more general trend analysis. Bean counters pay good for this kind of info.
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said by jarthur31 See Profile :

BS! The Internet was supposed to be an information resource not a giant flea market.
Key phrase there "supposed to be"... until commercialization raped and pillaged it. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20951604 Thu, 14 Aug 2008 17:00:56 EDT Re: Stop ads by using ad blockers http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20951567 robl27 : please note: the free firefox blockers do NOT block flash ads. I've tested it several times and still see them

ad muncher works great.
it's a small price to pay for keeping sanity on your computer.

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If you can't provide a website free, then by all means don't do it. And don't piss off the viewing public by loading crapware. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20951496 Thu, 14 Aug 2008 16:40:22 EDT Re: Stop ads by using ad blockers http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20951385 Kearnstd : the anti-ad people have so much fuel for their fires as well. the ads on so many websites arent just simple unobtrusive text ads, they are Shockwave driven bright flashing ads that make noise and many times even interfer with using the back button. i compair the current age of web ads to someone making it so TV ads can follow you into the Bathroom. i dont mind the google powered text ads but i hate anything that flashes and makes noise.
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said by BF69 See Profile :

said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

Stop all ads - targeted or not.

For Firefox:
»adblockplus.org/en/

For IE7:
»www.ie7pro.com/

And as far as collecting your browsing history, all ISPs can do it and they don't need DPI to accomplish it. And a monolith like Google which controls 70% of the search activity on the net, can do the same thing. And with Google's tie-in with DoubleClick that reach expands to many sites not related to Google.

Face it - there is little to no privacy while browsing and since the net was commercialized 20 years ago, there never was.
First of all that doesn't from stop selling your data.

As far as ad blocke, you do realize the rason why you can surfer MILLIONS of sitesf or FREE is because of ads. If everyone blocked ads sites would have no recourse but to start charging. Sorry, but if I'm taking my times, worka dfn money bulding a website for YOU to surf for FREE the least you can do is put up with some ads. If not, then sorry you must PAY to come to my site. Bandwidth, hosting and my time isn't free.
Your site will die very fast if your make it pay only. Information generally on the internet is free, so while it's your prerogative, you will find that most if not all people will simple move on to another website.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20951092 Thu, 14 Aug 2008 15:25:30 EDT Re: Stop ads by using ad blockers http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20951029 Kearnstd : so tell me BF59, do you consider popup blocking to be strike against webmasters too? because every browser does it nowdays.
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said by en102 See Profile :

Those club cards are basically tied to data mining corps, where your information is tracked/sold, and you end up with spam.
Not to get off the subject, but I've been using a VIC card for 10+ years and I've yet to get spammed or mass emailed because of it. I'm starting to think this is just a conspiracy theory. Has anyone ever done any research on it?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20950949 Thu, 14 Aug 2008 14:56:24 EDT Re: Stop ads by using ad blockers http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20950862 en102 : I agree on that... anyone that has a decent sized web server running is probably reselling their log data.. Data mining isn't just on the Internet either.
Go to your local grocery store - how many have over inflated prices, only to lower them with 'club cards'. Those club cards are basically tied to data mining corps, where your information is tracked/sold, and you end up with spam.
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said by BF69 See Profile :

let me ask you a question. Your boss says he now expects you to work for FREE. Do you?
I'm retired. I am my own boss managing my investments.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20950540 Thu, 14 Aug 2008 13:43:15 EDT Re: Stop ads by using ad blockers http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20950528 hopeflicker :
said by BF69 See Profile :

said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

Stop all ads - targeted or not.

For Firefox:
»adblockplus.org/en/

For IE7:
»www.ie7pro.com/

And as far as collecting your browsing history, all ISPs can do it and they don't need DPI to accomplish it. And a monolith like Google which controls 70% of the search activity on the net, can do the same thing. And with Google's tie-in with DoubleClick that reach expands to many sites not related to Google.

Face it - there is little to no privacy while browsing and since the net was commercialized 20 years ago, there never was.
First of all that doesn't from stop selling your data.

As far as ad blocke, you do realize the rason why you can surfer MILLIONS of sitesf or FREE is because of ads. If everyone blocked ads sites would have no recourse but to start charging. Sorry, but if I'm taking my times, worka dfn money bulding a website for YOU to surf for FREE the least you can do is put up with some ads. If not, then sorry you must PAY to come to my site. Bandwidth, hosting and my time isn't free.
Your pro corporation drivel is a spitting image of the guy trying to block FF users from viewing his site.
»slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/0···from=rss
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said by SillyRabbit :

said by BF69 See Profile :

said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

Stop all ads - targeted or not.

For Firefox:
»adblockplus.org/en/

For IE7:
»www.ie7pro.com/

And as far as collecting your browsing history, all ISPs can do it and they don't need DPI to accomplish it. And a monolith like Google which controls 70% of the search activity on the net, can do the same thing. And with Google's tie-in with DoubleClick that reach expands to many sites not related to Google.

Face it - there is little to no privacy while browsing and since the net was commercialized 20 years ago, there never was.
First of all that doesn't from stop selling your data.

As far as ad blocke, you do realize the rason why you can surfer MILLIONS of sitesf or FREE is because of ads. If everyone blocked ads sites would have no recourse but to start charging. Sorry, but if I'm taking my times, worka dfn money bulding a website for YOU to surf for FREE the least you can do is put up with some ads. If not, then sorry you must PAY to come to my site. Bandwidth, hosting and my time isn't free.
You want me to come to your site for a reason, so YOU pay to try and get ME to come there. I call BS on you, Sir/Maam
Are you stupid? Seriously. Your post prove you have ZERO clue to how the intenet works.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20950495 Thu, 14 Aug 2008 13:33:47 EDT Re: Stop ads by using ad blockers http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20950480 BF69 :
said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

said by BF69 See Profile :

said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

Stop all ads - targeted or not.

For Firefox:
»adblockplus.org/en/

For IE7:
»www.ie7pro.com/

And as far as collecting your browsing history, all ISPs can do it and they don't need DPI to accomplish it. And a monolith like Google which controls 70% of the search activity on the net, can do the same thing. And with Google's tie-in with DoubleClick that reach expands to many sites not related to Google.

Face it - there is little to no privacy while browsing and since the net was commercialized 20 years ago, there never was.
First of all that doesn't from stop selling your data.

As far as ad blockers, you do realize the reason why you can surf MILLIONS of sites for FREE is because of ads. If everyone blocked ads, sites would have no recourse but to start charging. Sorry, but if I'm taking my time, work and money building a website for YOU to surf for FREE the least you can do is put up with some ads. If not, then sorry you must PAY to come to my site. Bandwidth, hosting and my time isn't free.
Of course, you can start charging for your site. That is your prerogative. But would anyone pay for it? That is why most sites are still free - no one would pay a nickel to go to them if they charged. Maybe the web needs a lot less sites if people won't pay to go to them.
So I should spend money on bandwidth and hosting and other thigns just so you can surf for free? See the whole point is that if you are going to COST me money I don't want yo on my site in the first place.

Your logic is like telling McDonald's if they don't give you free food you won't eat there. So what. Your eating for FREE costs them money so they don't need you anyways. I hate to burst your bubble but 99% of what's on the internet is there to MAKE MONEY.

I'd rather have 1000 visitors a month paying me $30 a year than 1 million leaching my bandwidth and using adblockers.

let me ask you a question. Your boss says he now expects you to work for FREE. Do you? ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20950480 Thu, 14 Aug 2008 13:30:31 EDT Re: Stop ads by using ad blockers http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20950354 amungus : Hey TK, I don't WANT your money! Nor do many other people who wish for their sites to be free in the first place.

If you offered me money out of the kindness of your heart, just because you wanted to show your support, or because you liked the site(s), or because you felt like being nice, guess what? I still wouldn't want it. Now, if you bought something I was selling, sure, have at it; give me all the money you want in that case. Buy one for your friends...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20950354 Thu, 14 Aug 2008 13:04:08 EDT Re: Stop ads by using ad blockers http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20950335 anon :
said by BF69 See Profile :

said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

Stop all ads - targeted or not.

For Firefox:
»adblockplus.org/en/

For IE7:
»www.ie7pro.com/

And as far as collecting your browsing history, all ISPs can do it and they don't need DPI to accomplish it. And a monolith like Google which controls 70% of the search activity on the net, can do the same thing. And with Google's tie-in with DoubleClick that reach expands to many sites not related to Google.

Face it - there is little to no privacy while browsing and since the net was commercialized 20 years ago, there never was.
First of all that doesn't from stop selling your data.

As far as ad blocke, you do realize the rason why you can surfer MILLIONS of sitesf or FREE is because of ads. If everyone blocked ads sites would have no recourse but to start charging. Sorry, but if I'm taking my times, worka dfn money bulding a website for YOU to surf for FREE the least you can do is put up with some ads. If not, then sorry you must PAY to come to my site. Bandwidth, hosting and my time isn't free.
You want me to come to your site for a reason, so YOU pay to try and get ME to come there. I call BS on you, Sir/Maam]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20950335 Thu, 14 Aug 2008 12:59:05 EDT Re: Stop ads by using ad blockers http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20950244 Matt :
said by BF69 See Profile :

said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

Stop all ads - targeted or not.

For Firefox:
»adblockplus.org/en/

For IE7:
»www.ie7pro.com/

And as far as collecting your browsing history, all ISPs can do it and they don't need DPI to accomplish it. And a monolith like Google which controls 70% of the search activity on the net, can do the same thing. And with Google's tie-in with DoubleClick that reach expands to many sites not related to Google.

Face it - there is little to no privacy while browsing and since the net was commercialized 20 years ago, there never was.
First of all that doesn't from stop selling your data.

As far as ad blocke, you do realize the rason why you can surfer MILLIONS of sitesf or FREE is because of ads. If everyone blocked ads sites would have no recourse but to start charging. Sorry, but if I'm taking my times, worka dfn money bulding a website for YOU to surf for FREE the least you can do is put up with some ads. If not, then sorry you must PAY to come to my site. Bandwidth, hosting and my time isn't free.
Hopefully the beer is.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20950244 Thu, 14 Aug 2008 12:46:37 EDT Re: Stop ads by using ad blockers http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20950241 amungus : Good point. No they don't block transmissions of your activity, though some might stop the requests for some ads. Still won't stop your request for the top level site(s).

However, in my opinion, blockers are meant less for blocking sane, real ads than for blocking possibly infected, annoying ads. There are just too many off site ads these days, some leading to who knows where. Soon as you hit a site that's had its database and/or ads compromised by some SQL injection exploit, and you load those files, you've been compromised without "doing" anything, or going "somewhere bad" at all... Too many people are sick of it.

I take a much different stance than you on ads. I've hosted a (few) site(s) for some years now with zero ads, and don't plan on changing that any time soon.

Yes, It's my time, my money, and it's there for YOU to enjoy if you'd like. I put it there on my own terms, so that others can enjoy it on their own terms as well - take it or leave it. I would never consider charging somebody to simply view a site, unless its content were of some extra special value, in which case people could then buy into it. Take the adult industry for example - yeah, that's different, and yeah, they have the right to charge for access to the content - but NOT for simply stopping by.

You should realize you can surf to MILLIONS of sites for free WITHOUT ads, because some people realize that the internet is more about simple freedom than commerce only.

Before all the "e-commerce" insanity, the internet was far less cluttered with narrow minded people. I kind of miss it in a nostalgic kind of way. Most sites were just simple, and the word "flash" actually meant something other than the basis for usually crap quality video, CPU clogging code, and horrid excuses for site design... not to mention highly annoying ADS]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20950241 Thu, 14 Aug 2008 12:46:05 EDT Re: Stop ads by using ad blockers http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20950218 viperlmw :
said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

Face it - there is little to no privacy while browsing and since the net was commercialized 20 years ago, there never was.
While this may be true, it doesn't mean we should stop fighting for more privacy. Fighting the good fight can be beneficial.

"Never give up! Never surrender"
Commander Taggert, NSEA Protector]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20950218 Thu, 14 Aug 2008 12:41:14 EDT Re: Stop ads by using ad blockers http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20950124 morbo : is that a joke?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20950124 Thu, 14 Aug 2008 12:21:03 EDT Re: Stop ads by using ad blockers http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20950079 TKJunkMail :
said by BF69 See Profile :

said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

Stop all ads - targeted or not.

For Firefox:
»adblockplus.org/en/

For IE7:
»www.ie7pro.com/

And as far as collecting your browsing history, all ISPs can do it and they don't need DPI to accomplish it. And a monolith like Google which controls 70% of the search activity on the net, can do the same thing. And with Google's tie-in with DoubleClick that reach expands to many sites not related to Google.

Face it - there is little to no privacy while browsing and since the net was commercialized 20 years ago, there never was.
First of all that doesn't from stop selling your data.

As far as ad blockers, you do realize the reason why you can surf MILLIONS of sites for FREE is because of ads. If everyone blocked ads, sites would have no recourse but to start charging. Sorry, but if I'm taking my time, work and money building a website for YOU to surf for FREE the least you can do is put up with some ads. If not, then sorry you must PAY to come to my site. Bandwidth, hosting and my time isn't free.
Of course, you can start charging for your site. That is your prerogative. But would anyone pay for it? That is why most sites are still free - no one would pay a nickel to go to them if they charged. Maybe the web needs a lot less sites if people won't pay to go to them.
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said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

Stop all ads - targeted or not.

For Firefox:
»adblockplus.org/en/

For IE7:
»www.ie7pro.com/

And as far as collecting your browsing history, all ISPs can do it and they don't need DPI to accomplish it. And a monolith like Google which controls 70% of the search activity on the net, can do the same thing. And with Google's tie-in with DoubleClick that reach expands to many sites not related to Google.

Face it - there is little to no privacy while browsing and since the net was commercialized 20 years ago, there never was.
First of all that doesn't from stop selling your data.

As far as ad blocke, you do realize the rason why you can surfer MILLIONS of sitesf or FREE is because of ads. If everyone blocked ads sites would have no recourse but to start charging. Sorry, but if I'm taking my times, worka dfn money bulding a website for YOU to surf for FREE the least you can do is put up with some ads. If not, then sorry you must PAY to come to my site. Bandwidth, hosting and my time isn't free.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20950018 Thu, 14 Aug 2008 11:57:24 EDT Re: Stop ads by using ad blockers http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20949995 dadkins : Ad Muncher - works with any browser:
»www.admuncher.com/

Your data is still scattered, but ads are not displayed!
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For Firefox:
»adblockplus.org/en/

For IE7:
»www.ie7pro.com/

And as far as collecting your browsing history, all ISPs can do it and they don't need DPI to accomplish it. And a monolith like Google which controls 70% of the search activity on the net, can do the same thing. And with Google's tie-in with DoubleClick that reach expands to many sites not related to Google.

Face it - there is little to no privacy while browsing and since the net was commercialized 20 years ago, there never was.
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