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ReVeLaTeD
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reply to fiberguy

Re: Well played.

said by fiberguy:

said by insomniac84:

A 50 dollar installation fee and a 25 dollar activation fee. That's thinking outside the box.
Why's that? ... because everything should be free? Even if it was "free" don't you realize that there are expenses and with those expenses, if they're provided free, you're going to pay for it elsewhere. I suppose a $50 a month service charge to make up for it, with a 2 year service agreement would be a better option? I bet they'd love to have that extra $504.00 fro you over the $75.00
I think the thought process is, the logic behind separating them is the definition of "nickel and dime". You wouldn't do one without the other, so why not just charge $60 as a start up fee? (Yes, I'm proposing a discount, it doesn't cost the dealer that much to install a bracket.)

fiberguy
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I'd say that most likely, as someone else said, one goes to the dealer, the other to the provider. The other reason could be that it may be possible to buy the parts/equipment directly and either do it yourself or have someone else do it for you. I think that sometimes people take two prices as nickle and dime rather than itemized prices..



ReVeLaTeD
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said by fiberguy:

I'd say that most likely, as someone else said, one goes to the dealer, the other to the provider. The other reason could be that it may be possible to buy the parts/equipment directly and either do it yourself or have someone else do it for you. I think that sometimes people take two prices as nickle and dime rather than itemized prices..
Itemized pricing usually has to do with things that are unrelated or not directly requirements of each other. You wouldn't install without activating and you wouldn't activate without installing. So why not just combine it and discount it, and then in disclaimer, state what it is comprised of?

fiberguy
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I just described a reason WHY it was probably itemized and separate. When you buy an XM Satellite radio, you pay for the hardware, the activation, and if you want it installed, you pay for that too.

I think you're being a little nit-picky. Nothing is being done wrong here. Rather, this is more your "desire" and "preference".. I don't care if it's combined or separate. HOWEVER, if it WERE combined, and you wanted to install it yourself, I'm sure you'd not see a discount.

More and more people/sellers are being required to itemize their pricing. I can give you an example that lives right here on this site.. Congress required, in the telecom act of 96, that everything be itemized on the bill. ie: Converter rental, which included a remote, has to have the items separated on the bill. Phone had to do the same thing. There is also a law, truth in something, I'd have to look it up, where you have to be clear about what you are charging someone for, and it can't simply be disclaimed.

And, in this case, it sounds to me that they are not directly related. You're paying someone to install the device, and you are paying a provider to activate and begin a subscription.



ReVeLaTeD
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San Diego, CA

said by fiberguy:

I just described a reason WHY it was probably itemized and separate. When you buy an XM Satellite radio, you pay for the hardware, the activation, and if you want it installed, you pay for that too.

I think you're being a little nit-picky. Nothing is being done wrong here. Rather, this is more your "desire" and "preference".. I don't care if it's combined or separate. HOWEVER, if it WERE combined, and you wanted to install it yourself, I'm sure you'd not see a discount.

More and more people/sellers are being required to itemize their pricing. I can give you an example that lives right here on this site.. Congress required, in the telecom act of 96, that everything be itemized on the bill. ie: Converter rental, which included a remote, has to have the items separated on the bill. Phone had to do the same thing. There is also a law, truth in something, I'd have to look it up, where you have to be clear about what you are charging someone for, and it can't simply be disclaimed.

And, in this case, it sounds to me that they are not directly related. You're paying someone to install the device, and you are paying a provider to activate and begin a subscription.
I've noticed you're hostile in just about every board I see you in.

First, this is not my "desire". Stop putting words in my mouth.

Second, the law about "Truth in LENDING" does not apply to the install of wireless access, as there is no LENDING being done here.

Third, they are directly related. Would you buy something and then never activate it? Would you activate SIRIUS before buying the hardware?

In both cases your answer is NO.

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