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<title>Re: Pentagon puts hold on USAF cyber effort</title>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1140294"><b>Blackbird</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  scelli <A HREF="/useremail/u/102396"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br><div class="bquote"><small>said by  DownTheShore <A HREF="/useremail/u/906825"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>So typical.  All branches of the military vying for their slice of the pie and credit, instead of each doing what they do best, and letting one branch concentrate on cyberspace and letting it be the best it can be in that area. :uhh:<br> </div>Unfortunately, the more things change the more they stay the same. Counterproductive inter-service rivalries are well documented throughout the history of the U.S armed forces as well as within the armed forces of numerous other nations. ...<br> </div> Seems to be the "American Way"... and it's not just inter-service rivalry. Just as often, it's intra-service rivalry. Ask anyone intimately familiar just what really killed the USAF SR-71 program... twice! And it was supposed to be a "national asset".<br><small>--<br>If God wanted us to work with electrons, He'd make them big enough to see...</small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2008 23:33:50 EDT</pubDate>
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<title>Re: Pentagon puts hold on USAF cyber effort</title>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/102396"><b>scelli</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  DownTheShore <A HREF="/useremail/u/906825"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>So typical.  All branches of the military vying for their slice of the pie and credit, instead of each doing what they do best, and letting one branch concentrate on cyberspace and letting it be the best it can be in that area. :uhh:<br> </div>Unfortunately, the more things change the more they stay the same. Counterproductive inter-service rivalries are well documented throughout the history of the U.S armed forces as well as within the armed forces of numerous other nations. I'm not talking about the standard stuff wherein troops from different branches sound off to each other in a derogatory manner, either. Such behavior in the enlisted ranks is a put-on almost always without exception because the jaw-jacking and running of sewers is done with genuine fondness. Anyone who has ever worn the uniform knows this is true.<br><br>However, get the ranking staff brass from each branch together in a command room and watch the sparks fly. I'm told it is truly a sight to behold.  <br><small>--<br>The maximum effective range of an excuse is ZERO meters!</small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 17:12:32 EDT</pubDate>
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<title>Re: Pentagon puts hold on USAF cyber effort</title>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/906825"><b>DownTheShore</b></A> : So typical.  All branches of the military vying for their slice of the pie and credit, instead of each doing what they do best, and letting one branch concentrate on cyberspace and letting it be the best it can be in that area. :uhh:<br><small>--<br><i>Patriotism is not waving a flag, it is living the ideals</i></small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 11:04:41 EDT</pubDate>
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<title>Re: Pentagon puts hold on USAF cyber effort</title>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/634007"><b>SUMware</b></A> : &raquo;<A HREF="http://www.nextgov.com/nextgov/ng_20080812_7995.php" >www.nextgov.com/nextgov/ng_20080812_7995.php</A><br><blockquote>The Cyber Command, headed by Maj. Gen. William Lord, touted on its Web site its capabilities to &#147;secure our nation by employing world-class cyberspace capabilities&#148; and had ambitious plans to have a cyber command presence in all <A HREF="http://www.govexec.com/dailyfed/0608/061608wb.htm">50 states</a>.<br><br>The Cyber Command hyped its capabilities on TV, in Web video advertisements and in a series of high-profile presentations conducted by Lord. The hard sell may have been the undoing of the Cyber Command, which seemed to be a grab by the Air Force to take the lead role in cyberspace. Both the Army and Navy have similar expertise in cyber operations, service sources said.<br><br>Philip Coyle, senior adviser with the Center for Defense Information, a security policy research group in Washington, said he believes the Navy&#146;s Network Warfare Command and the Space and Naval Warfare Systems Center have led the way in cyberspace. The Army engages in cyberspace operations daily in Afghanistan and Iraq, said Coyle, who served as assistant secretary of Defense and director of its operational test and evaluation office from 1994 to 2001.<br><br>The decision to ratchet back the Cyber Command may have come from Adm. Mike Mullen, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, who wants to see a greater role for the Navy in cyberspace, said an Air Force source. Coyle speculated that the Air Force may have been too public in pushing the Cyber Command and is now suffering from its own hubris.</blockquote><br><br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://www.securityfocus.com/brief/799" >www.securityfocus.com/brief/799</A><br><blockquote>Other services also have <A HREF="http://www.securityfocus.com/news/11441">cyberspace capabilities</a> and the National Security Agency has taken an active role in cyber operations, including <A HREF="http://www.securityfocus.com/brief/698">a broad, and controversial, wiretapping program</a>.</blockquote>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 10:06:11 EDT</pubDate>
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<title>Re: Pentagon puts hold on USAF cyber effort</title>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/274243"><b>GILXA1226</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  SUMware <A HREF="/useremail/u/634007"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>The effort has more than likely just been hidden away as an NSA black-box project.<br> </div>NSA != USAF.  The USAF has had a wing designated for this task for quite a while, it has just been recently that they decided to elevate it to a command level.  The Army and Navy have similar units, however they have not yet decided to raise them like the Air Force is proposing to do.  I would also imaging that the NSA, CIA and FBI have their own cyber divisions as well.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 09:25:04 EDT</pubDate>
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<title>Re: Pentagon puts hold on USAF cyber effort</title>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/634007"><b>SUMware</b></A> : The effort has more than likely just been hidden away as an NSA black-box project.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 21:28:51 EDT</pubDate>
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<title>Re: Pentagon puts hold on USAF cyber effort</title>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/274243"><b>GILXA1226</b></A> : This was expected after the Secretary of the Air Force was forced out.  The Cyber command was his 'baby' if you will.  My guess is that eventually the Cyber Command will still happen, especially with everything that has been going on with Russia/Georga, China and PRK's attacks, along with all the other countries that are learning that cheap hardware can be used to cause lots of havoc.<br><small>--<br>We don't give a d@mn for the whole state of Michigan... we're from OHIO!  O!H! ... I!O!</small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 19:15:06 EDT</pubDate>
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<title>Re: Pentagon puts hold on USAF cyber effort</title>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1181003"><b>rcdailey</b></A> : I'm getting the feeling that the Pentagon (or Mr. Gates) is trying to get rid of the USAF.  ]]></description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 18:36:56 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1531837"><b>Its a Secret</b></A> : WASHINGTON (AP) - The Pentagon this week delayed and may kill the Air Force's nascent Cyberspace Command, according to a memo obtained by The Associated Press. This comes as Russia used a major computer network attack to begin its assault on Georgia.<br><br>The service's Cyberspace Command is meant to coordinate computer network defense and, more controversially, offensive attacks on enemy networks.<br><br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://apnews.excite.com/article/20080814/D92HQ6HG1.html" >apnews.excite.com/article/200808&middot;&middot;&middot;HG1.html</A><br><small>--<br>"In the future, that which is not mandatory will be illegal"</small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 17:18:27 EDT</pubDate>
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