heimdm
join:2008-06-22
Martinsville, IN
| T1 SmartJack
I live about 5 miles past the sticks to put it nicely. I tried to get DSL and the Local loop length came back as 60,000 feet. My company is paying partly for my internet connection. Therefore, as the only option I am getting a T1 circuit. I live in South Central Indiana and the ILEC is SBC/AT&T. Next week SBC is supposed to be at my house to install the smartjack. What type of smartjack does SBC/ATT usually install for residential T1's? At present the current voice line runs to just outside the garage where it hits a gray weather proof box and then runs inside and terminates on a 66 block, which is mounted on about 3/4" plywood, compliments of the previous owner. |
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rolande
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join:2002-05-24
Powell, OH
clubs: | Last time I saw a residential T-1 install back in Chicago which has been about 4 years ago they were using the same smartjacks as they use in business installs. Probably a Tellabs or Adtran single wallmount chassis. |
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Shadow01
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join:2003-10-24
Wasteland | reply to heimdm
I hope that there are conditioned pairs already available for you. I would hate to know what the build out cost at 60kft would be...
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David
No,there is another.
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join:2002-05-30
Granite City, IL
clubs: | Can't say I know much but usually it's just a ethernet-looking jack isn't it? |
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heimdm
join:2008-06-22
Martinsville, IN | reply to Shadow01
Sure glad I got free installation with my T-1 contract.
-Dennis- |
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jordanair
join:2000-08-15
Wylie, TX
| reply to David
It's more than an ethernet jack, it is an intelligent device , can be remotely tested, with loopback commands, pull stats etc...60Kft though they will most likley install adtran HDSL1 or 2 technology unless there is an RT or litespan in his area either way costly |
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heimdm
join:2008-06-22
Martinsville, IN | You mentioned an adtran HDSL 1 or 2, is ATT going to try to make me foot the bill for that? |
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rolande
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join:2002-05-24
Powell, OH
clubs: | No. That equipment cost should be built into the contract price. |
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jordanair
join:2000-08-15
Wylie, TX
| reply to heimdm
I honestly don't know I don't htink you pay for the equipment , but there could be cost for buildout that would be in your service contract so it should be spelled out up front.. but I wouls say if you have questions on that this is not the forum to answer that question i would call back to where you placed the order and get them give you those answers.. when i worked for AT&T I only remotely tested and provisioned them our customers usually had account managers, reps and Execs that had those answers |
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jlramirez
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join:2004-10-01
Montgomery, IL
clubs:
| reply to rolande
said by rolande  :Last time I saw a residential T-1 install back in Chicago which has been about 4 years ago they were using the same smartjacks as they use in business installs. Probably a Tellabs or Adtran single wallmount chassis. It could go either way... I've seen them put in to 2-slot Westell outdoor enclosures on residential installs on a couple of occasions. The circuit I had a few years back from work had the line card in an outdoor enclosure and extended in to a jack.
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sbcretired
join:2006-01-07
Scottville, MI
 ·AT&T Midwest
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I retired doing that very thing 5 yrs ago. The 2 slot outdoor housing was the preferred thing to use in this situation. Possibly if you are home when its installed, the tech might put a smart jack inside on the plywood-maybe.
Be aware that (5yrs ago) SBC/ATT charges separate from that housing to your computer. It was about $100hr plus a separate service charge. This was strictly time and material of the tech on site. You can DIY or hire another contractor to extend the circuit. |
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heimdm
join:2008-06-22
Martinsville, IN
| I am going to run the cabling from the smartjack to my router myself. I just finished installing a few j-hooks in the crawlsapce last week. This morning I got a call from an SBC engineer who is designing my circuit. Looks like they are going to try to nail me for physical buildout costs now. They say they should have a quote to me later this week. Our pedistol is within a stones throw of the house. However we are back about 2500 feet off the main road, which is littered with those white box t-1 repeaters. I am hoping it is under 5k, but we shall see.. and hope for the best. |
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heimdm
join:2008-06-22
Martinsville, IN
| Now the real fun has begun. ATT is saying I am so far out there, that they do not have T-1 service nearby. The street just up the road from me is where the lines pull back to, but ATT says that facilities is unable to provide T-1 service. That is where we stand... |
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heimdm
join:2008-06-22
Martinsville, IN
| ATT has kindly informed me that they need over $10,000 to build out a T-1 to my house. Additionally, they are stating that because it is a residence that justified the cost. That seems a bit crazy since a T1 just requires a conditioned copper pair.
If I gave ATT the 10k+, they would take the money and they go to the USF (Universal Service Fund) for money to build out this rural circuit.
UGH.. |
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Shadow01
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join:2003-10-24
Wasteland
·AT&T Midwest
| said by heimdm :If I gave ATT the 10k+, they would take the money and they go to the USF (Universal Service Fund) for money to build out this rural circuit. UGH.. You have proof of this or are you just guessing with this statement?  |
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ArgMeMatey
join:2001-08-09
Milwaukee, WI
·AT&T Midwest
| reply to heimdm
Time for Plan B yet? Can you get service closer in to a point within Line-of-Sight from your house? Anybody offering wireless?
Somebody else recommended these to me for a different purpose. They are far cheaper than $10,000 and might be worth experimenting with.
»www.ubnt.com/
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heimdm
join:2008-06-22
Martinsville, IN | I am trying to find a plan B, but have had no such luck. The area around me if full of 50-80ft trees. |
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psx_defector
join:2001-06-09
Allen, TX
| Then build a 100ft tower.
»www.solidsignal.com/prod_display···5-BT-GUY Whole kit, only $3500. No problems with line of sight then, and your HDTV signal would be excellent. 
Sure beats the $10K buildout. Although that was to be expected, living in the boonies does not equal free high-cap buildout, no matter who you are. |
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heimdm
join:2008-06-22
Martinsville, IN | We have been contemplating building a tower. I would love to find someone down in town about 4-5 miles away that would let me hook into their broadband, and just do a wimax point to point link. |
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lolwhat
We Are Toast
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join:2001-06-11
USSA
·AT&T Midwest
 ·Future Nine Corpor..
| Would you wish to reconsider the EVDO route? It looks like Alltel has no-cap mobile Internet with coverage in Indiana. Yes, Alltel is being acquired by Verizon, but at least you should have unlimited service for the length of your contract. |
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