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keithbart

join:2007-01-01
South Bend, IN
reply to drchud

Re: NEWS - HD channels added to city of Chicago line-up

said by drchud:

coming in fine here on the south side of chicago/oaklawn (60655).
anyone know why on the weather chan HD they do not provide locals on the 8's?
Weather Channel HD is a simulcast of the nationwide weather channel feed. No local on the 8's.


markofmayhem
Why not now?
Premium
join:2004-04-08
Pittsburgh, PA
kudos:5

At all??? That's not right, you should be getting the SD pillar box-black sides version of the Local's until the newer HD compatible Intellistar is installed. Maybe it is being installed as we speak?


drchud

join:2006-01-18
reply to Dillz85

ya i flipped it on to see the local on the 8's. the normal voice said "now for your local on the 8s" but it was not showing it. they did not switch and pipe in the SD feed. maybe they will in the future. no biggie though.



cypherstream
Premium,MVM
join:2004-12-02
Reading, PA
kudos:3
reply to Dillz85

Last I checked at my Dad's house with Service Electric Cable, Weather HD had National on the 8's.

Haven't watched Weather HD at his house in awhile though... but I would guess that it's still the same way. Graphics are good though. I'd almost rather watch National on the 8's in HD, than Local on the 8's in SD. If I really want local weather I'll pull up weather.com with my Zip Code and scroll through everything at my own leisure.


LovinHD

join:2008-07-23
Crestwood,IL
reply to Dillz85

Well I'm in the South 'burbs and on Sunday they added Big Ten HD and that's it. I'm wondering where the other "new" channels are...oh and the channel numbers inside of Chicago are different than outside the City.



tgruber

@ameritech.net
reply to Dillz85

Not getting the new HD channels in Elmwood Park.


arnie2

join:2008-08-19
Plainfield, IL
reply to Dillz85

This is the reply I received from Comcast "Customer Care" when I inquired about the new HD channels coming to Plainfield.

"Thank you for contacting Comcast Cable.

The addition of these networks to the rest of Chicago land is tentative.
You will be notified if and when new programming is added.

Thank you for choosing Comcast.

Sincerely,

Marvin
Comcast Customer Care Specialist"

It looks like the waiting will continue for SPEED HD.


wolfkeeper

join:2003-05-20
Wheeling, IL
reply to Dillz85

We got BigTen HD in Mount Prospect, and not much else.


Joe12345678

join:2003-07-22
Des Plaines, IL
reply to markofmayhem

The Intellistar / weather star HD is not out yet any where.

They don't even have a National HD one. Dish and direct tv do have Intellistar SD set up to run in National mode.



Spiderman865

join:2005-12-27
Joliet, IL
reply to arnie2

Thank you for choosing Comcast.----like we have a choice for another cable provider!
--
Who?...Me?



Rosen08

@nalco.com
reply to Dillz85

How long does it usually take for suburbs to get new HD additions after the city gets it?

I called a comcast cs rep and she was clueless but she guessed it could take a month or so. I think she was just making it up.

It's not fair that comcast keeps us suburbs in the dark like this after getting our hopes up.



markofmayhem
Why not now?
Premium
join:2004-04-08
Pittsburgh, PA
kudos:5
reply to Joe12345678

said by Joe12345678:

The Intellistar / weather star HD is not out yet any where.

They don't even have a National HD one. Dish and direct tv do have Intellistar SD set up to run in National mode.
I've seen the HD national maps for LOT8's, just yesterday on DirecTV.

Found this link:
National "local on the 8's" HD from Nov. 2007:

»www.youtube.com/watch?v=xeyyt649kTc


said by wikipedia :
On September 26, 2007, DirecTV launched a 24-hour simulcast of The Weather Channel in high definition. At this time, no programming was actually presented in high definition, except for a national "satellite" version of the Local On The 8s. On October 1, 2007, two new high definition programs, "Epic Conditions" and "Weather Ventures" premiered. A new high definition series, "When Weather Changed History" premiered on The Weather Channel on January 6, 2008.

Throughout the final months of 2007 to the early months of 2008, various cable companies had started to add The Weather Channel HD to their cable lineups, including the Boston, MA, Austin, TX, San Antonio, TX, and Baton Rouge, LA markets. [14] The Weather Channel in High Definition was added to DISH Network systems on May 13, 2008.

The very first live broadcast of The Weather Channel in high definition came on June 2, 2008 in a new studio facility built next to the current one. Dubbed the "Studio of the Future", it is powered by Cisco Systems technology that is entirely eco-friendly, echoing its commitment to the environment via the Forecast Earth initiative. The HD re-launch was completed in Mid August 2008. Currently, TWC's entire programming schedule is broadcast in HD with the exception of long-form programs It Could Happen Tomorrow and Full Force Nature.
The LOT8's for cable systems has not been upgraded to HD, yet. However, TWC:SD has ceased operation and TWC is only broadcast in 1080i 16x9. The SD digital and analog channels are now donconverted by the operator instead of the broadcaster (TWC). Maybe this is why the LOT8's on HD stations are getting the national HD map.

(BTW, Dish is different than DirecTV with TWC. Dish actually has local on the 8's similar (but more regional) to cable systems.)

Gratz on the HD's Chicago!

keithbart

join:2007-01-01
South Bend, IN
reply to Dillz85

Dillz85, My account number starts with 87984. Any idea when I might get the new HD channels? Thanks.


keithbart

join:2007-01-01
South Bend, IN
reply to Dillz85

said by Dillz85:

said by Spiderman865:

Any word if theses HD adds will make to the suburban systems also?
As far as I can tell this is for people whose account number starts with 87983XXXXXXXXXXX I cant say for sure as of right now if 87982XXXXXXXXXXX and 87981xxxxxxxxx will get the lineup. When I hear about it, ill post...

Sorry
said by Dillz85:

said by Spiderman865:

Any word if theses HD adds will make to the suburban systems also?
As far as I can tell this is for people whose account number starts with 87983XXXXXXXXXXX I cant say for sure as of right now if 87982XXXXXXXXXXX and 87981xxxxxxxxx will get the lineup. When I hear about it, ill post...

Sorry
Dillz85, My account number starts with 87984. Any idea when I might get the new HD channels? Thanks.


Dillz85

join:2008-07-04
united state
kudos:1

sorry im not sure, when my source gets word to me you'll know...


Joe12345678

join:2003-07-22
Des Plaines, IL
reply to markofmayhem

said by markofmayhem:

said by Joe12345678:

The Intellistar / weather star HD is not out yet any where.

They don't even have a National HD one. Dish and direct tv do have Intellistar SD set up to run in National mode.
I've seen the HD national maps for LOT8's, just yesterday on DirecTV.

Found this link:
National "local on the 8's" HD from Nov. 2007:
(youtube clip)
said by wikipedia :
On September 26, 2007, DirecTV launched a 24-hour simulcast of The Weather Channel in high definition. At this time, no programming was actually presented in high definition, except for a national "satellite" version of the Local On The 8s. On October 1, 2007, two new high definition programs, "Epic Conditions" and "Weather Ventures" premiered. A new high definition series, "When Weather Changed History" premiered on The Weather Channel on January 6, 2008.

Throughout the final months of 2007 to the early months of 2008, various cable companies had started to add The Weather Channel HD to their cable lineups, including the Boston, MA, Austin, TX, San Antonio, TX, and Baton Rouge, LA markets. [14] The Weather Channel in High Definition was added to DISH Network systems on May 13, 2008.

The very first live broadcast of The Weather Channel in high definition came on June 2, 2008 in a new studio facility built next to the current one. Dubbed the "Studio of the Future", it is powered by Cisco Systems technology that is entirely eco-friendly, echoing its commitment to the environment via the Forecast Earth initiative. The HD re-launch was completed in Mid August 2008. Currently, TWC's entire programming schedule is broadcast in HD with the exception of long-form programs It Could Happen Tomorrow and Full Force Nature.
The LOT8's for cable systems has not been upgraded to HD, yet. However, TWC:SD has ceased operation and TWC is only broadcast in 1080i 16x9. The SD digital and analog channels are now donconverted by the operator instead of the broadcaster (TWC). Maybe this is why the LOT8's on HD stations are getting the national HD map.

(BTW, Dish is different than DirecTV with TWC. Dish actually has local on the 8's similar (but more regional) to cable systems.)
got any video of it?


wolves01
Premium
join:2002-11-21
Crystal Lake, IL
reply to Dillz85

Anyone outside of the city have the new channels yet?


slk2k
Harsh Light Of Truth

join:2002-12-05
Aurora, IL

Nothing in Aurora yet ....



Quick

@adp.com
reply to Dillz85

Nothing in Lisle either.



Still Waiting

@nalco.com
reply to Dillz85

Man, comcast is brutal. Nothing here in Naperville. How could comcast keep us in the dark like this??

They owe us.

We should be giving the same channels as Chicago, or at least tell us how long we have to wait. Ahhhh, I got my hopes up, and every day I looks for signs. I might have to just switch to DirecTV.



Gettin Tired

@sbcglobal.net
reply to Dillz85

I'm in Crestwood and still no new HD channels! I am getting really tired of this from Comcast..Dish's Turbo HD is looking more and more attractive!!! They even advertise that you can add an external hard drive to two of their HD-DVR's. And all that Comcast says is we don't know if you will be treated the same as some of our other customers (City).


drchud

join:2006-01-18

Gettin Tired
Cresdtwood huh? You are really close to me (Mt. Greenwood). cant believe you didnt get the chans yet.


keithbart

join:2007-01-01
South Bend, IN
reply to Dillz85

I live in South Bend, IN and everytime Chicago would get new HD channels we would get them here. Not this time.
I think I have the same problem as some of the Chicago
suburbs that do not have the new channels. Lack of bandwidth
or to many analogs. I have heard the city of Chicago is all
digital. My area and the suburbs must not be.


dishrich

join:2006-05-12
Springfield, IL

2 edits

said by keithbart:

I have heard the city of Chicago is all digital.
Not true - they still have analog limited basic (all OTA primary channels & a couple remaining analog cable ch's, like Weather, etc.) which IS all simulcasted in digital as well.

RichRuggiero

join:2008-07-24
Schaumburg, IL

1 recommendation

I'm with Comcast in Chicago. Dishrich is right, we still offer analog basic service in the city. But the expanded basic tier is 100% digital (one of a handful of Comcast systems in the country, although upward of 20% of Comcast communities nationwide should be by year-end, with more to follow in '09). That's what allows us to launch these HD channels in the city first. I don't have a time frame I can share right now on adding these HD channels in the rest of the Chicago market or South Bend, but our plan is definitely to launch broadly these HD channels and more, plus much more HD On Demand.



markofmayhem
Why not now?
Premium
join:2004-04-08
Pittsburgh, PA
kudos:5

When the first 20-ish channels are analog and from 24-ish on up is digital, Comcast refers to this market as an "all digital" market. Until a court trumps franchise agreements, Comcast renegotiates all franchise agreements, or franchise agreements go away; this will be the case. The "lifeline" service of the first 20-ish channels is actually a utilitiy. It's price is regulated, it's service is regulated, it's quality is regulated; all by the franchise authority of your area. "All digital" is for the spectrum that is unregulated. In most towns, it's around channel 24 and above. Freeing up the analog space from 25 to 125 results in 30-50 extra QAM channels for most areas. The problem in doing this across the country is availability of rental boxes and the fact we're on the eve of tru2way. Chicago is currently a bandwidth expansion and reclaimation test bed. It's nice to watch, but most won't see a setup similar until 2010 and beyond.


keithbart

join:2007-01-01
South Bend, IN
reply to RichRuggiero

said by RichRuggiero:

I'm with Comcast in Chicago. Dishrich is right, we still offer analog basic service in the city. But the expanded basic tier is 100% digital (one of a handful of Comcast systems in the country, although upward of 20% of Comcast communities nationwide should be by year-end, with more to follow in '09). That's what allows us to launch these HD channels in the city first. I don't have a time frame I can share right now on adding these HD channels in the rest of the Chicago market or South Bend, but our plan is definitely to launch broadly these HD channels and more, plus much more HD On Demand.
Ruggiero, Are you saying that Comcast has the room in my area to add the new HD channels but they are just waiting for a certain time to add them? Thanks.

RichRuggiero

join:2008-07-24
Schaumburg, IL

No...just that we do plan to add them but don't have a time frame we can share publicly.


koala1946

join:2008-09-10
Valparaiso, IN
reply to Dillz85

I just talked to a Comcast rep who was in our neighborhood tonight going door to door asking about satisfaction of service etc.I mentioned about the fact about four weeks ago the city of Chicago got about 16 new HD channels and we (NW Indiana)didn't get them.He said there will be more channels added the end of this month and a lot more by the end of the year.Was he just blowing smoke or is it true?? Can anyone out there verify it? Thanks


keithbart

join:2007-01-01
South Bend, IN

said by koala1946:

I just talked to a Comcast rep who was in our neighborhood tonight going door to door asking about satisfaction of service etc.I mentioned about the fact about four weeks ago the city of Chicago got about 16 new HD channels and we (NW Indiana)didn't get them.He said there will be more channels added the end of this month and a lot more by the end of the year.Was he just blowing smoke or is it true?? Can anyone out there verify it? Thanks
koala1946, Did the rep say your specific area would get the new channels? If so I should get them also.