EPS
join:2008-02-13
Hingham, MA
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Re: Probably...
The browser is based off of WebKit, which is open source and publicly available... Mobile Opera's not bad either.
As for Multitouch Patents? I've seen it claimed as well. However, I wonder about that- Microsoft has a commercial multitouch implementation, and Nintendo patented plans for a multitouch DS system (cut due to costs) way back in 2004. So I wonder if Apple's patents are specific enough that competitors can't do anything about it. (After all, RIMM owns patents on BlackBerry's keyboard, but that hasn't stopped Palm and others) |
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rdass
@comcast.net | reply to NOCMan
Thats "all" they brought was the new touch screen and better browser. Yeah, thats "all", just new tech that has revolutionized the mobile phone industry and they have patented by the way. Yeah thats all. lol |
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huntml
join:2002-01-23
Mullica Hill, NJ | reply to NOCMan
Sprint resells Telenav as Sprint Navigation. |
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cbrigante2
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said by EPS  :Who holds the patents to visual voicemail? Not Apple... Though they do get points for implementing it, and pushing other carriers to do so as well. (Now when will VZW VVM make its way to anything other than the LG Voyager?) Exactly. If it wasn't for a product with the buzz about it like iPhone, I doubt the carriers would ever change a thing for lack of incentives. |
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Nerdtalker
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said by tiger72 :The GSM footprint in the USA is the same as the CDMA footprint. About = number of subscribers... However, you combine that GSM in the USA with GSM around the world, and you see quite quickly that it's the most popular platform, and the most profitable to develop first. And Google sees the importance of the global market for its first step into the world of cell phones. Number of subscribers can be deceptive, especially considering that what I'm talking about is actual coverage in terms of towers. I agree with you 100% that GSM is the network of choice all over the world, but in the US, CDMA is still king.
Talk to any AT&T customer or stare at their 3G map for a bit, and it'll be pretty obvious that from a network perspective CDMA is much more mature and deployed in the US than any respective GSM technology. There was a great animated gif overlaying AT&T's 3G network with that of Verizon + Sprint's CDMA EV-DO and then EV-DO REV. A offerings, and the difference is also laughable.
I only hope T-Mobile gets their 3G network rolled out en-masse fast enough that there isn't another iPhone-esque week long rant about complete lack of 3G network coverage everywhere but the major metropolitan areas. I fail to understand, yet again, why there is such exclusiveness with a provider who doesn't even have a mature 3G network.
I'll get an HTC Touch Pro to replace my HTC Mogul on my much cheaper SERO plan and play wait-and-see with android.
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said by Nerdtalker :I can understand the attractiveness of deploying a GSM reference device so it can scale to other countries as well, but didn't we just go through a similar GSM-growing-pain-extravaganza with the iPhone disappointment? In the US, GSM will always be second to CDMA, period. Why not show some CDMA love to Verizon/Sprint/Alltel? The GSM footprint in the USA is the same as the CDMA footprint. About = number of subscribers...
However, you combine that GSM in the USA with GSM around the world, and you see quite quickly that it's the most popular platform, and the most profitable to develop first. And Google sees the importance of the global market for its first step into the world of cell phones.
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EPS
join:2008-02-13
Hingham, MA | reply to cbrigante2
Who holds the patents to visual voicemail? Not Apple...
Though they do get points for implementing it, and pushing other carriers to do so as well. (Now when will VZW VVM make its way to anything other than the LG Voyager?) |
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cbrigante2
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North Aurora, IL | reply to NOCMan
Visual voice mail? |
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insomniac84
join:2002-01-03
Schererville, IN
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said by Cod :outdated tech? Duh.
Been out since 03: »www.vgapocketpc.com/prodimg/dell···0-lg.jpg
It can do everything the iphone can do and more via wifi. Of course dell never made it into a cellphone. But that hardly makes the iphone something new. |
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NOCMan
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The only thing the iPhone brings that's new is the touch screen, better browser, and we'll that's about it really.
App Store = Qualcomm Brew
SMS = MMS and SMS have been around for awhile iphone does not support MMS.
GPS = Verizon has VzNavigator, Sprint has something as well or Nextel did at least.
Bluetooth = Been around, and does Apple even support stereo headsets? That's my biggest gripe with my iPod Touch no bluetooth for headphones.
Business features that blackberry had for quite some time. Though Blackberry seems to have outages every other week. I'll give Apple the nod that it's definately easier reading a file on a iPhone vs a Blackberry. |
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EPS
join:2008-02-13
Hingham, MA
| reply to Nerdtalker
I honestly doubt that Android will be a T-Mobile or even a GSM exclusive- isn't Sprint a member of the Open Handset Alliance?
HTC's specialty is GSM phones, and they usually release GSM versions of their phones long before CDMA equivalents. (And usually Europe/Asia long before the USA, if they reach our shores at all) Plus, I believe T-Mobile International (the 6th largest world cellular carrier) has been pushing this heavily. |
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Nerdtalker
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I can understand the attractiveness of deploying a GSM reference device so it can scale to other countries as well, but didn't we just go through a similar GSM-growing-pain-extravaganza with the iPhone disappointment?
In the US, GSM will always be second to CDMA, period. Why not show some CDMA love to Verizon/Sprint/Alltel?
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Cod
join:2000-07-05
Greensboro, NC | reply to I agree
said by I agree :
I wish apple did the same thing, instead they released their outdated tech to a big carrier with a slew of bugs every phone manufacturer got over 3 years ago.
outdated tech? |
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I agree
@optonline.net | reply to Smith6612
I wish apple did the same thing, instead they released their outdated tech to a big carrier with a slew of bugs every phone manufacturer got over 3 years ago. |
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Alcohol
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join:2003-05-26
Somerset, NJ | reply to Smith6612
It was either T-Mobile or ATT for GSM networks. ATT already has the iPhone. T-Mobile needs this more than Google needs them. |
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Smith6612
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| so that is Google Android does have problems, T-Mobile customers can feel the burn and Google can fix the software up. That way, when and if they do move to more carriers, they'll have less buggy software. Might as well do it on the smallest carrier and then step up to the bigger guys as you go, keeps the problems down. |
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